[quote]Here are some other things I noticed from this fucking brilliant movie:
The close-up shots of the car’s headlights when the Bride is driving to Bill’s house reminded me of similar shots found in Taxi Driver.
The Bride carrying the buckets of water in the Pai Mei Chapter was similar to Lo Lieh doing the same thing in Five Fingers of Death.
Moments before dying, Bill asks “How do I look?”. The same phrase was uttered by Marvin Nash in Reservoir Dogs just before his death.
While reading the information about the Black Mamba, Elle tells Budd You gotta pay attention to this, cause this concerns you". A similar phrase was uttered by Ordell to Louis in Jackie Brown.
On Kung Fu, in the episode “an eye for an eye” i think, there is a scene where the main female character shoots a guy with a double barrel shot gun with rock salt shells…
I wonder if Quentin got the idea of Budd doing the same thing from that episode…
yah, they do that in a James Bond movie aswell, I think its A VIEW TO A KILL. I remember the scene is James Bond is making an omlette for some chick (I remember this cause I Thought, how the fuck does James Bond know how to make an omlette?) and then for somereason gangsters bust in and he has a shotgun full of rock salt.
I don’t know if anyone’s mentioned this, but in Volume 1 during the beginning of the scene in the chapel where you first hear that Spanish song playin before the station is changed and the Charlie Feathers song comes on, it’s the same Spanish song before the station is changed to Stuck in the Middle in Reservoir Dogs. I know someone’s mentioned the KBilly voice in Bill, but don’t know if anyone’s mentioned this yet.
A few things I haven’t seen mentioned from from the “Elle and I” chapter:
The title is a hint at what’s to come.
Budd is killed by a Black Mamba.  (So in a way, the Bride did kill him).  Elle’s choice of snake to kill Budd is reflective of her respect for the Bride as a warrior. ÂÂ
 Once the Bride plucked out Elle’s other eye, she didn’t need to kill her.  Elle will be forever shamed and all will know the Bride beat her, no matter what she does or where she goes.  That is worse than death to a warrior. (remember Pei Mei’s utterance of a curse being put on Elle when he realizes she poisoned him?)  And the Bride, a true warrior,  wouldn’t kill off an opponent who was blind, there would be no honor in that.  (A buddy of mine who knows all the oldschool kung fu flicks pointed these out to me.)  I thought that was pretty cool that QT stuck to the codes like this, knowing full Elle surviving would spark discussion amoung moviegoers not in-the-know.
 After that very scene (while everyone in the theatre is going nuts in reaction to what they just saw), the Bride victoriously strides out of the trailer, and there is a floor angle shot of the Black Mamba, it’s head following her and hissing as she walks by - yet it dosen’t attack her.  As if to suggest they are One And The Same.  It reminds me of an old 70’s commercial where some jungle animal is hanging out in front of some sports car named after it.  Totally deliberate shot for fun only and I love it.
Elle’s specialtly (other than swordplay) is Poisons.  She aborts a mission to inject the Bride with a deadly fluid in Vol. 1, she killed Pei Mei by poisoning his fish heads, and she kills Budd with a venomous snake.  My kung fu buddy told me a specialty like poisons is super common amoung those old school films.
Sorry…it’s late and it’s fun to talk about QT movies. ÂÂ
5. Elle’s specialtly (other than swordplay) is Poisons. She aborts a mission to inject the Bride with a deadly fluid in Vol. 1, she killed Pei Mei by poisoning his fish heads, and she kills Budd with a venomous snake. My kung fu buddy told me a specialty like poisons is super common amoung those old school films.
That’s one observation I really haden’t connected yet. Good observation.
was watching a movie just then called 'Fulltime Killer" or whatever, and noticed the sound effect that occurs when Pai Mai jumps on Bea’s sword is also in this movie.
Coincidently the movie’s about assassins - but it was shit.
They spoke english which wrecked it and the story sucked.
- in the end credits there’s a RIP list, including Charles Bronson
Bills death was boring and shit b/c heros get glorious deaths : (e.g one movie had a hero ripped into 5 pieces by horses!)
QT uses the traditional “build up” used in Asian cinema : Elle and Bea, Oren and Bea, Bea hearing the Crazy 88s arrive etc…
QT uses tradition again with the whole 'no matter how badly injured the hero is, they will find the will power to stand up and fight to the last person is dead…end of KB1?)
I think Not sure so don;t quote me on this one of the sequels to the flying guillotine involves a completly blind guy… + in Once upon a time in mexico, “Agent Sands” has his eyes poked out or whatever and he still fights - asking a kid where he should point his guns…
The poster in Budd’s trailer is Charles Bronson in Mr. Majestyk, a novel by Elmore Leonard, who wrote Rum Punch, later adapted by Tarantino to make Jackie Brown.
Miss McBeth, I think you’re crazy if you think the “death scene” of Bill was boring. Makes me laugh. Ha!
Noticed something this morning while watching Gone In 60 Seconds. The jacket Maindrain Pace wears at one point is similar in the style of Bill’s famous jacket. It’s not the same color but it is the same style.
The book Esteban is reading is a made-up one called “Carrucan’s of Kurrajong,” by Jasmine Yuan, a fake name that references one of the crew members.
The Malagueña song played at the end of vol. 2 can also be heard in the form of a different version in several parts of Once Upon a Time in Mexico (opening credits, the president of Mexico asks the mariachis to play a malagueña). Perhaps picking Malagueña Salerosa for the soundtrack was Rodriguez’s idea.
I just think, compared to everyone elses death or injury, Bill’s was the least exciting. I agree! I laughed too!
And, yes it was true to the Asian tradition, but from my western ignorance, I felt it should have been the best death ever,I mean, com’on! I bloody title is referring to his death!!! But obviously, QT has some wisdom behind Bills death.
It would have been retarded as hell if the bride just lopped off Bill’s head. Such a death might be fine for the style of the HOBL chapter, but it would not have worked within the context and style of “Face to Face.” It would have ruined the entire film, basically.
In the beginning of KB2 doesn’t Bill tell the bride the story regarding the five points on the body and dying after walking five steps? Seems pretty fore shadowing if you ask me. He told her of the technique and she ends up using the technique on him at the end.
It may not be as exciting as if they had actually crossed swords, but I think it’s more personal between them. She actually seemed filled with alot of pain at having to do it. And yet, they both knew it was coming, and Bill was as accepting of it as she was as accepting on having to deal it out. He never showed fear at the fact that he was going to die, and she was the one who was going to delve out that death. Bill went to his death with "eyes wide open."
I found it rather interesting that when the Bride was shown lying on the bathroom floor, she seemed to be both crying and laughing. She was relieved that it was over, but I think at the same time, she was finally allowing herself to grieve over the death of the people that she had once called her friends She probably was also grieving over Bill’s death most of all because she did love him at one time, and as they say, “You kill the thing you love the most.”
