I think Kill Bill proved to be more of a promotion of Asian cinema than Leone films. I mean apart from Morricone music (which most of which was used in Kill Bill did not even make part of Leone’s films), there aren’t exactly many clear references as to make you shout “omg that’s definetely taken from Leone!” when you watch the film. Kill Bill is a 90% homage to Asian Cinema, 10% homage to spaghetti western.
And Leone already had a massive following before Kill Bill came out, no doubt about that.
i always thought it was a tad bit overrated, cause i’ve seen it compared to Fistful, which is not right, 125 shots of Nero’s face being reveiled by looking up does not match up with the beauty that is Fistful, the start and finish are excellent but in between i’m missing some stuff
I watched it before getting interested in italo western at all. There i thought it’s quite okay, but not as good as Fistful . It had a strange feeling: the KKK stuff,the ugly hookers,the slobberish location;it definitively was something different than i expected. But even there it was way better that the wannabe “Django” stuff i watched the yrs later, by directors like Demofilo Fidani, Giuliano Carnimeo or Ferdinando Baldi.
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I like “Django, Kill” (sei vivo spara) more than Django, pistolwhip me if you want but i really love Django Kill, all it lacks is a great score
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yeah it’s a sleazy horror-like western but with a very surreal arthouse look to it, so that the silly scenes, like the torture scene with the bats, are still enjoyable cause they’re so visually chilling, no leone ripoffs, not even a django ripoff (regardless of the title), it’s in its own little genre, very rare for its time, and very ahead of it in terms of editing and stuff
There’s 2 Viva Django's out there. But I’m assuming the Terence Hill version is the more recoginzed. Haven’t seen that one, but I’ve seen the other with Anthony Steffen also known as V Django. Hardly a dull moment in it, but still nothing really special.
Django Kill is crazy indeed, but as Seb pointed out, an unclear narrative hurts it. Not an overall great score as well, but I do like the theme song.
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thx for the clip! i’ve seen a couple of introductions by him, are they on certain dvd’s or just for tv?
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These were for TV but he’s done one (To my knowledge) on DVD. There’s a few more of those intros for Trinity,Django,My name is nobody,etc, on Youtube.
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i have a question: what movie is considered the absolute first spaghetti western?
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Well, Eurowesterns go all the way back to the silent era, but the big predecessor to the break-out Fistful of Dollars was 1963’s Gunfight at Red Sands. (Duello nel Texas - The Spaghetti Western Database)
Speaking personally in regards to Leone being introduced by QT. I grew up going to the movies and watching alot of movies on TV and VHS in the 80s. I saw The GBU and Once Upon In The West and Once Upon A Time in America (in the theater in 1984) long before I even knew who QT was. Those films were really mainstream to me, they werent any different than seeing other American Westerns on TV. As a kid, I always knew Leone as the guy who made those crazy Westerns with Clint Eastwood. The same with The Trinity movies. They were pretty standard Saturday afternoon-night movie watching for me back then.
To me, when QT came along he was like a new friend who happened to know way more about movies than me, saying “If you liked that, check THIS one out”. Hes still really very much like a video store clerk even today. He’s just able to make films himself now and he has a bigger impact on people. Its one of his best traits as an celebrity too.