I get to see more of David Carradine in Vol 1 There just wasn’t enough of him in the first.
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I get to see more of David Carradine in Vol 1 There just wasn’t enough of him in the first.
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You mean vol 2 right?
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You mean vol 2 right?
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Obviously
I definitely agree with looking at Kill Bill as one film, one story. But in terms of the two parts, it was really interesting to see how my friends reacted to them (most of them seeing KB as their intro to Tarantino)
Volume 1 was an amazing film that really grabbed you, and I consider it to be one of the most re-watchable films I’ve ever seen. I hardly know anyone who didn’t enjoy it, and most of my friends were incredibly pumped to see the second half.
But Volume 2 is what separates the “movie people” from the people who just wanted to see more of the insane violence and pace of the first one, and I think that’s an amazing achievement…it’s almost as if QT tricked all the mainstream action movie-goers into watching a film that ends up having the incredible character depth and story telling usually only seen in “arthouse”. Some of my friends were blown away by the second half; others were like "what the fuck, where’s the big final fight?"
Volume 2 is the kind of film most people wouldn’t be interested in renting, but those who have an appreciation for good film get a hell of a movie that only gets better with each viewing as you pick up on more of the ‘nifty little shit’, stuff like winslow was pointing out. Volume 1 is fantastic, but 2 is the “real” movie.
exactly
vol. 1 for all the Oren Ishii stuff, but I really appreciate vol.2 too
[quote=“Comfortable Silence”]
I definitely agree with looking at Kill Bill as one film, one story. But in terms of the two parts, it was really interesting to see how my friends reacted to them (most of them seeing KB as their intro to Tarantino)
Volume 1 was an amazing film that really grabbed you, and I consider it to be one of the most re-watchable films I’ve ever seen. I hardly know anyone who didn’t enjoy it, and most of my friends were incredibly pumped to see the second half.
But Volume 2 is what separates the “movie people” from the people who just wanted to see more of the insane violence and pace of the first one, and I think that’s an amazing achievement…it’s almost as if QT tricked all the mainstream action movie-goers into watching a film that ends up having the incredible character depth and story telling usually only seen in “arthouse”. Some of my friends were blown away by the second half; others were like "what the fuck, where’s the big final fight?"
Volume 2 is the kind of film most people wouldn’t be interested in renting, but those who have an appreciation for good film get a hell of a movie that only gets better with each viewing as you pick up on more of the ‘nifty little shit’, stuff like winslow was pointing out. Volume 1 is fantastic, but 2 is the “real” movie.
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Yep, well said. But try saying this to people who fall into the “what the fuck, where’s the big final fight?” category. They don’t take too well on being called a retard!
[quote=“Ify”]
Yep, well said. But try saying this to people who fall into the “what the fuck, where’s the big final fight?” category. They don’t take too well on being called a retard!
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haha…yeah…I get into trouble about this all the time with my friends, i get accused of being elitist. and maybe that’s true, but these are also the generally the same people who would refuse to watch a film with subtitles or over 20 years old. It’s not that they’re retarded, they just…view movies as what they’re about, and not how they’re about it (one of my favourite quotes from ebert)
This always reminds me of the scene in high fidelity where they don’t sell records to guys who won’t appreciate the music.
But yes. Volume 2, good movie.
wow, at first vol1 was way ahead, now vol 2 is…what is it about vol 2 that makes it a better movie?
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wow, at first vol1 was way ahead, now vol 2 is…what is it about vol 2 that makes it a better movie?
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Probably substance, characterisation, depth, dialogue, more of Bill, more of Budd, and the getting across of more emotion!
I think Volume two has some great action in it. I wouldn’t even dare to compare it with an arthouse film. Those things put me to sleep.
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I think Volume two has some great action in it. I wouldn’t even dare to compare it with an arthouse film. Those things put me to sleep.
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ah…but that’s the beauty of it. it’s an arthouse film that ISN’T boring. (i don’t think that arthouse films are all boring, but i know many people that do…most of which enjoyed KB2)
‘Kill Bill’ IS ONE movie. But if a choice needs to be made, i would have to say ‘Kill Bill Volume 2’ It’s got some good action, and some good emotional threads too. It’s more of a story than Volume 1. But then again, vol 1 was only half of the big story…
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‘Kill Bill’ IS ONE movie. But if a choice needs to be made, i would have to say ‘Kill Bill Volume 2’ It’s got some good action, and some good emotional threads too. It’s more of a story than Volume 1. But then again, vol 1 was only half of the big story…
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great answer…i was a big buff of vol 1, but now the more i watch vol2, the more i like it
[quote=“MiaRose”]
‘Kill Bill’ IS ONE movie. But if a choice needs to be made, i would have to say ‘Kill Bill Volume 2’ It’s got some good action, and some good emotional threads too. It’s more of a story than Volume 1. But then again, vol 1 was only half of the big story…
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Exactually,now you are one of the coolest people in the book. Yeah it is one movie. I would half to choose Volume 1,I love yakuza movies.
Of course it’s one movie, but the poll is about which volume is better. What I totally hate is one poll somewhere in forum that asks us which Tarantino movie is the best and there you have to choose between volumes 1 and 2.
I had hoped this decision would have been a lot harder but it was easy for me to choose Volume II over I. I’m not saying that Volume I is weak when compared to Volume II, it’s just that for me it’s always been about westerns, and Volume II has that appeal. Volume I had it’s moments, I consider the ending for Volume I to be one of the greatest ever. I can honestly say that I was in shock when I heard Bill ask if the Bride knew whether or not her daughter was still alive. Volume I also had one of the coolest anime sequences I had ever seen, plus the finale at the House of Blue Leaves was just jaw dropping. But Volume II had that something, I don’t know whether it was the dialogue or just the great performances by Michael Madsen and David Carradine that won me over. The great music by Robert Rodriguez and one of the coolest ending credits that I have ever seen all really add up for me.
thats a tough one, the first movie was like the first time that anything like that was ever made. so i think that it is better
[color=Blue]Hello all!
I know both volumes tell the complete story, but which one is your favorite? I like Vol. 1, I love the action and anime from it, and who can forget the House of Blue Tea Leaves, one of the best action scenes, and I like when they make fun of Charly Brown. Well that’s all from me, forgive me if there is an old post about this question, but I’m new and I wanted to get everyones opinion on it. Red apples anyone?
PS
I’ve read some other posts where people talk about Kurasawa, Kagemusha will be released on DVD March 29th, just an FYI. I’ve been waiting for this for a long time.
why volume 2…b.c of story? vol 1 is much more …violent, pretty, bloody, visual