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Rank the Lone Wolf & Cub films

[quote=“diceman”]
What is it that makes you think, this movie won’t ever get done?
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The project was first announced years ago, but nothing has happened so far. And the whole project is quite problematic. An american director making english language (?) live-action adaptation of a legendary japanese samurai manga. Not to mention there is already 6 legendary LW&C films + at least 2 TV shows…



btw, Road To Perdition is also loosely based of LW&C manga

But this concept worked already. Just think of “Crying Freeman” by Christophe Gans. It’s also a live-action manga-adaption starring Marc Dacascos, a canadian-japanese-french co-production and it’s got some breath taking visuals.

Crying Freeman worked because it was a modern day actioner. But how do you make an english language samurai/period movie that takes place in ancient Japan?

[quote=“Hung Fist”]
The 2002 version is a Japanese TV show.
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Anyone seen it/ know if it’s any good?

[quote=“Jot”]
Anyone seen it/ know if it’s any good?
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I haven’t seen it, but I heard the 1970’s TV show is excellent. I really hope someone will release it on dvd.

It’ll probably turn out like the Last Samurai if they make an American Lone Wolf and Cub film. But i don’t want to see it. Aronofsky entices me a little, but i would prefer if they didn’t make another film and jeopardise a beautiful beautiful series.

I thought The Last Samurai was a great film, minus the happy ending. But this series has been overdone as it is. He should of done Samurai Champloo instead.



It’ll be weird to see him make a movie that isn’t a mindfuck.

I don’t really want to see American LW&C. But if they do make it, then I’m happy it’s Aronofsky who’s directing it. They couldn’t have chosen a better director…

[quote=“WeaselCo”]
I thought The Last Samurai was a great film, minus the happy ending. But this series has been overdone as it is. He should of done Samurai Champloo instead.



It’ll be weird to see him make a movie that isn’t a mindfuck.
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Yeah, i did like Last Samurai, i wasn’t implying that Last Samurai was a bad film, i was just saying that that is how they would do am American Samurai film.

I’m quite curious about ‘Lone Wolf & Cub’. Both in the films directed by Kenji Misumi and the manga books written and drawn by Kazuo Koike. Are the books an adaptation/extension of the original films or are they inspired re-tellings or is ‘Lone Wolf and Cub’ part of olde worlde Japanese folklore like Robin Hood and King Arthur is in Britain?



There was an interview with Kazuo Koike on ‘The South Bank Show’ dedicated to Japanese graphic novels and animation. He said that it is difficult to think up a story so what you should do is think up a character. For example a samurai and a little boy. From there you think up the “what ifs”. Where is the boy when the samurai is on the battlefield? If he hides the boy, where and how does he hide him? What if they try to kidnap the boy? What if they try to hurt the boy, what does the father do? From there a story arises.

an american version of LW&C would totaly suck balls!

Yeah, fuck that shit.

Ahh this topic is painfully misleading - considering the original comment. In any case id like to see another Lone Wolf and cub but itd probably suck. :frowning:

[quote=“Clinton Morgan”]
I’m quite curious about ‘Lone Wolf & Cub’. Both in the films directed by Kenji Misumi and the manga books written and drawn by Kazuo Koike.
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Goseki Kojima drew Lone Wolf and Cub. Kazuo Koike wrote it.

i wonder if they will make 6 remakes and but in the sad ending from the manga in the last movie :’(

[quote=“Angel”]
Goseki Kojima drew Lone Wolf and Cub. Kazuo Koike wrote it.
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Thanks for the correction Angel. A fortnight ago I was reading ‘Road To Perdition’ (taken from my local library) and in the introduction the writer said it was influenced by the ‘Lone Wolf & Cub’ tales. The only difference was that he made the son a young adolescent. From the introduction I learnt that the manga came before the movie. Mangawise I have recently read ‘King of Hell Volume Two’ and am about to embark on ‘Bride of Deimos’ (printed in the original right-to-left format).

[quote=“Clinton Morgan”]
Thanks for the correction Angel.
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Though Koike gets most of the credit anyway, so it is a common mistake. I have read most of the Lone Wolf and Cub manga. Most of the stories from the films are from the manga, but they use a couple of stories from the manga to create one story for a given film.



Yeah, King of Hell is a great manga. It is Korean and i am always pleasantly surprised by what Korea has to offer in terms of “manga” (well, technically it’s a Japanese term, but i still call Korean comics, manga).

[quote=“Clinton Morgan”]
(printed in the original right-to-left format).
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The only way to read it in my opinion. I also like it when all the sound effects are printed in the original Japanese as well. Most of my manga is like that.

Ive been reading too much from right to left it becomes a habit… anyways when you lent me that lone wolf and cub on the train i didn’t recognize some of the the stories from any of the films - though my memories of all the films is a little run together - if all the stories weren’t used in the films you’d think id be a simple task to make another film from the unused stories

Most of the beginning volumes are used in the films. I think i lent you Volume 2. I am pretty sure some of volume 2 made it into the films.



As far as reading right to left goes, i used to not be able to open a western magazine or book the right way for a very long time (around the time i spent in Japan and a little prior to that). Now i just adapt from Japanese literature to Western literature.

Im just always reading unflopped manga scans ( and the real thing as well im not that cheap ) so i read the scans in order of left to right but the actual pages go from right to left so if i were to open somthing like the normal Austair guide i think i might have a mental breakdown…