Once Upon a Time in Mexico

yeah the kill bill trailer was in front of the film i saw.



definitely needed more rourke and dafoe

well i went and saw this movie without seeing desperado, and i didnt have a problem understanding what was going on or anything, but i did have a problem liking this movie. about halfway through i had to talk myself into staying through the rest of the movie. theres just something i hate about one man in the middle of a crowd, and while that whole crowd is shooting at him noone manages to shoot him, yet hes able to kill every single one of them. plus i hate bandaras, i wanted him to die the whole movie. this movie stinks like shit.

The movie isn’t supposed to be serious. The whole point of him not getting hit by anything is that he’s making fun of the other two movies, where that happened but it was more serious, specifically El Mariachi. Try not to take it seriously, it’s a genre film that knows it’s a genre film.

[quote]The movie isn’t supposed to be serious. The whole point of him not getting hit by anything is that he’s making fun of the other two movies, where that happened but it was more serious, specifically El Mariachi. Try not to take it seriously, it’s a genre film that knows it’s a genre film.[/quote]

Yep. Think of El Mariachi (the character not the movie) as a Mexican James Bond, and you’ll have a much better time in theaters.

Haven’t seen cause it’s not out here…

It’s actually coming out after Kill Bill, how lame is that. I want to be seeing some trailers on the big screen before i go into Kill Bill and that was meant to be my movie… dammit.



Anyways, i have listened to the soundtrack which was quite good. I presume the soundtrack in the movie was good too?

^^^ I was very impressed with the score of the movie. I loved the music of Desperado so when I heard Robert Rodriguez scored the movie himself I was skeptical, but the soundtrack was really good.



I’ll probably go see the movie again next week, this time just to sit back and enjoy it, I think I was compariing too much to Desperado so I may have cheated myself.

Yeah. A lot of times when i watch movies for the first time i’m far too critical. I need to just sit back and enjoy el filmo.

I liked the score, it was a little bombastic, over-the-top, but I think it fit well. I thought the score was mixed really high in the theatre, too loud almost. I guess Rodriguez was really proud of it and wanted to make sure we heard it.

^ or he was going for the “epic” sound.

Sorry just getting back here… my main computer died and @ my place of work couldn’t get this site pulled up for whatever reason til today. So anyway… went to Austin regional premiere and still working on all my notes and trivia I wrote down from what Robert Rodriguez said. He was pretty tight lipped about his future movie project, there is some sorta animation thing up next and then he’s doing as he says "a thriller that will take full use of the latest generation of Hi-Def cameras."



In the meantime here is some snippets of info I got:


  • Robert is writing another book about filmmaking for those out there wanting to learn or be a filmmaker… says its currently at 10,000 pages and when he finishes it he will post it on a Web site and let people download it for free.


  • “Once Upon a Time in Mexico” is actually closer to being the 4th movie in this series according to Robert, the 3rd would be the movie you see in flashbacks during the 4th one.


  • A great scene Robert cut between Danny Trejo and Mickey Rourke talking about not being able to eat Mexican food will be on the dvd.


  • Enrique came into the movie because Robert was like "you know Ricky Nelson was in Hawks “Rio Bravo” and I love that movie so I gotta have a Ricky Nelson in this one… so he cast Enrique


  • During the church shoot out they had no guns… because they were shooting everything so quick (thanks to hi-def camera’s) they were will ahead on shooting schedule and guns had yet to pass through being allowed into Mexico. So all the actors had to basically pretend they had guns and later on in post Robert had guns digitally added. At one point when they were shooting Antonio would provide his own sound effects for gun going off (like kids would do when their little playing w/ toy guns), to which Robert had to tell him “don’t worry about gun shot noises will add those later.” At a later point in the movie they had to film something quick minus a gun for Antonio so Robert told him “OK time to do fake gun again.”


  • The tune you hear Dafoe play on Piano in one scene is actually the score of Spy Kids II


  • Johnny Deep based his character on an old attorney he used to have that was somewhat subdued and never cussed and always substituted bad words w/ really loony words. Robert wrote most all of dialogue Johnny said… only real difference is in Robert’s draft the character cussed like crazy to which Depp put in/replaced with corny words and dumbed his overall character to be like his older attorney


  • Robert Rodriguez asked Johnny Depp (he is a musician after all) to write a musical theme for his character. So the actual theme you hear for Depp’s character intro and other parts that involve him are all accompyanied by a musical score that Depp wrote.

OUATIM is a great piece of work.I thought that it was one of the best complicated action movies I ever saw. I loved the cinematography and Johnny Depp is fuckin’ hilarious. He makes this movie memorable

He does. I saw it the other day, and I liked it a lot. The dropped the ball at the end in a serious way (not as much as they did with Desperado…which I liked), but it was good. I had some dreams of it being more like The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly, and having a Mexican Standoff between Sands, El M., and Barillo (sp?). It would’ve made the movie great, and I think it would be the right way to end the series. Too late now…



I thought it was good though. A very cool and entertaining movie.

I know Rodriguez is a great friend of Quentin, but I thought this movie was shit. Compare an action scene of QT with one of Robert and you can see the canyon of difference and who’s the smarter filmmaker. They grew up watching the same films, but Rodriguez’ films seem to be getting worse, while Tarantino is still growing.

1) Which action scenes of QTs are you talking about? He doesn’t have any action scenes in his movies, and if he does they’re small and simple. (Except for Kill Bill, which isn’t out yet so you can’t compare)

2) Is it just me, or does everyone suddenly have the same picture of jules with the gun?

I think RR is getting FAR better. OUATIM was really fuckin’ good.

Not nearly as good as his first movie though.



Congrats on moving up in the forum Bad Mother Fucker!

Thank you thank you. I’d like to thank my friends, my family, satan, and of course, sebastian, for making it all possible.

I saw it two days ago…and I hate it  >:(.



An unrecoverable waste of money and great actors. The “Depp-Segment” was okay, but the rest was confuse, boring and totally pointless. Even the shoot-outs sucked. In every  C-Category movie, better ones can be found. Where the hell did he leave the 29,000,000 ? And this Cinematography ! Did he use handycams or what ? :o



And to deliver my main Question:



What´s going on with Robert Rodriguez ? I haven´t seen “Spy Kids” yet, but “OUATIM” happens to be one of the worst films I´ve ever seen. And I´ve seen a lot :frowning:.

I finally posted awhile back my report from one of the premieres of the movie and what RR said:



http://badassmovieimages.com/reviews/rr-report.html

Anyone got more info about Robert’s upcoming projects? A thriller? What more do you know about it?