I may be wrong, but didn’t they pretty much just give the actors the camera and tell them to go out into the woods and film shit? That is not filmmaking. That’s a home video.
LOL, anyone ever see the sequel? So unintentially funny.
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I know this is your opinion which is why I don’t want to insult you and go on and on, but if you had picked any other director other than DePalma I would have kept my mouth shut. It’s not that I respect DePalma above all things, it’s just that DePalma cops so much shit about his style. People are always comparing him to Hitchcock and it pisses me off that people basically think he’s a Hitchcock copycat. He’s so much more. Plus, I think that his individual style is the most evident in Scarface. Not even the cynics compare Scarface to Hitchcock. It’s DePalma all the way.
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and yet the author of the thread DePalma or Hitch is Pete - isn’t Pete supposed to be the expert here? My golly, I think that you just said that Pete is full of shit! You better watch out, you better not cry, you better not pout I’m tellin’ you why…Pete is commin’ to town, Pete is commin’ to town…well, at least he kind of looks like Santa!
Deerhunter and The Godfather are my two that everyone freaks
out on me when I voice my distaste for them.
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Deerhunter and The Godfather are my two that everyone freaks
out on me when I voice my distaste for them.
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Deerhunter wasn’t good for me either. I even felt like I was being converted to Russian Orthodox for part of the film.
The Godfather is great - but you are entitled to your opinion.
[quote=“DexPac”]
Deerhunter and The Godfather are my two that everyone freaks
out on me when I voice my distaste for them.
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The Godfather seems totally overrated to me, I have no idea where the appeal and all the praise comes from.
Im not a huge fan of it either but i can see why people like it.
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The Godfather seems totally overrated to me, I have no idea where the appeal and all the praise comes from.
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Are you kidding me? The Godfather redifined the genre. The acting was some of the best ever. It is always quoted because of how culturally important it is.
[quote=“Crazy_Hattori”]
The Godfather seems totally overrated to me, I have no idea where the appeal and all the praise comes from.
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Holy shit, I can’t believe what I’m reading.
A few points:
- The story was unique and very interesting. Given the 3 hour runtime, it didn’t fail to keep my attention
- Absolutely brilliant and believable acting (particularly that of Brando, Pacino and Duvall, which I fell in love with!). I mean I can’t remember very many other films that had so many strong actors throughout the entire picture.
- The change in Michael Corleone, how he goes from this goody college-boy who faught for his country as a marine to this hardened criminal, fierce in every respect. It’s fascinating to watch such a change in character.
- The violence that occurs, although there isn’t really that much of it, is very dramatic when it does occur. It’s messy and unforgiving, and seems very realistic. You can’t forget the violence in this.
- The direction is very to-the-point. There are no fancy shots, fantastic crane-shot, swooping shots. It’s simple and effective. The director doesn’t need to make his presence felt. The goings-on in the film is what’s most important.
- I love the cinematography. Everything is very dark. There are a lot of dull colours, a lot of blacks, greys and browns. It gives the perfect type of feeling. Often in the scenes, only the characters seem to be visible. Everything else is too dark. I love that. It makes you concentrate on exactly what the director wants you to see. Also, it makes the characters very larger than life at times. You know that you are watching something great.
- The dialogue is also very to-the-point. It doesn’t drag, is very relevant and also very interesting. Not to mention how influential it has been.
- The musical score is very memorable. It induces all sorts of feelings in you, which is what music is for. It suits the film perfectly. Kudos to Nino Rota and to a lesser extent - Carmine Coppola.
- This film was and continues to be very influential to cinema. I have seen countless references and imitations of this film. It must be doing something right.
- It was a pioneering work in many aspects. A few already mentioned. It paved the way for films to be more gruesome, realistic and harsh. This isn’t some fucking fairy tale. Shit like this happens. It isn’t pretty.
- I love the family aspect to it. How there is a father who takes care of his family and does everything for them. The mother figure who everyone respects but who stays out of business. The sons who support the father and yearn to carry on his legacy. Even the guys working for them are part of the family. There is in-fighting, quarrels and betrayals. It’s interesting watching how everything unfolds.
- Also, I like how certain things are related to Coppola’s own family. It stars Francis’s sister Talia, has Sofia Coppola as the nephew being Christened as well as small parts for various other members of his family. His dad wrote the source music. He gets stuff from his own family, things that happened and integrates them within the film.
- I know this doesn’t matter to a lot of people, but it won 3 Oscars and got another 8 nominations. That’s gotta count for something.
- Lastly, it is one of the most revered, critically acclaimed and loved movies of cinema’s entire existence. It means so much to so many people. It is a fucking work of art. Sure it isn’t perfect, but what is? Forget about in it’s own genre, The Godfather is one of the greatest films ever made.
Well said, Ify.
I think the story was boring.
the acting was cool, yeah. good actors, no doubt.
You can’t forget the violence? Let’s see…I remember a headshot at a restaurant and the horse’s head, if that counts. hmmm…nothing special there I think, nothing special in the violence that is portrayed.
Simple and effective direction, yes. But mosty boring. At least I didn’t notice anything special.
"I love the cinematography. Everything is very dark. There are a lot of dull colours, a lot of blacks, greys and browns. It gives the perfect type of feeling. Often in the scenes, only the characters seem to be visible. Everything else is too dark. I love that. It makes you concentrate on exactly what the director wants you to see. Also, it makes the characters very larger than life at times. You know that you are watching something great.“
It gives a certain feeling, yes. That of dullness.
”- The dialogue is also very to-the-point. It doesn’t drag, is very relevant and also very interesting. Not to mention how influential it has been.“
To-the-point- and relevant dialogue is nothing special. We see it in millons of movies. That counts as a plus??
”- The musical score is very memorable. It induces all sorts of feelings in you, which is what music is for. It suits the film perfectly. Kudos to Nino Rota and to a lesser extent - Carmine Coppola.“
I like the main theme yes, the rest must have been forgettable, cause I sure as hell forgot it. and I pay good attention to a movie’s score.
” - I love the family aspect to it. How there is a father who takes care of his family and does everything for them. The mother figure who everyone respects but who stays out of business. The sons who support the father and yearn to carry on his legacy. Even the guys working for them are part of the family. There is in-fighting, quarrels and betrayals. It’s interesting watching how everything unfolds."
I can let that one count as a minor plus.
"This isn’t some fucking fairy tale. Shit like this happens. It isn’t pretty.“
No holds barred direct unpretty violence I can also get with cheap horror movies. It’s nothing special. Like, every war movie that is considered “good” has realistic violence.
”- Also, I like how certain things are related to Coppola’s own family. It stars Francis’s sister Talia, has Sofia Coppola as the nephew being Christened as well as small parts for various other members of his family. His dad wrote the source music. He gets stuff from his own family, things that happened and integrates them within the film."
Hey, have you seen the movie “The Last Slumber Party”? The director plays the killer in his own movie and I believe he even wrote the script and got everyone donuts, but strangely enough it’s not considered a masterpiece! Seriously though, how does the involvement of Coppolas family make the movie any better, just because it’s his family?
In conclusion, his daughter Sofia wipes the floor with him with her masterpiece “Lost in Translation”, which among other things, created an awesome mood and feelings in me as the viewer with it’s cinematography and direction. It’s such a beautiful movie.
ATTENTION PLEASE: I would very much like for the following discussion focus on the statements that will follow. Because the stuff above, it’s mosty about taste. Discussing the following subject I think would be much more interesting:
You said:
“I know this doesn’t matter to a lot of people, but it won 3 Oscars and got another 8 nominations. That’s gotta count for something.
it is one of the most revered, critically acclaimed and loved movies of cinema’s entire existence. It means so much to so many people. It is a fucking work of art. Sure it isn’t perfect, but what is? Forget about in it’s own genre, The Godfather is one of the greatest films ever made.
…Not to mention how influential it has been.
This film was and continues to be very influential to cinema. I have seen countless references and imitations of this film. It must be doing something right. It was a pioneering work in many aspects. A few already mentioned.”
It’s funny how everytime somebody critisized a movie that has “masterpiece status” or a certain place in movie history people throw this crap at them.
“It’s critically aclaimed” “It won many prices” “It has been SOOO influential” "It is pioneering work"
Most movies deserve all the praise they are getting, but how the hell does that influence your opinion as a viewer, if you’re not a inmpressionalble idiot who has his own mind?
Everytime I’m around movie buffs and I say “I like Jackie Brown better than Pulp Fiction”, they ALWAYS give me this crap:
"But dude, Pulp Fiction made a huge impact, it was so original and influential, think of it’s place in cinema history YADDA YADDA"
Are you people really telling me you’re watching a movie and thinking
"Wow, I’m enjoying this movie so much because of it’s status in cinema history as a groundbreaking piece of work and it’s huge influence on the many movies that it inspired"
Are you really watching Citizen Cane and thinking
"This is so great because it was the first movie that used that special tecnique (sorry, I don’t know the english word for it), which was groundbreaking at that time. this is pioneer work!"
That’s great and all, but how in the world does that make a movie more ENJOYABLE? Do you really love it more just because you know how big it is?
Well that, I think, would make you a pretentious pseudo-intellectual idiot. You simply CAN’T like a movie because of it’s status, it doesn’t make any sense to me.
“It paved the way for films to be more gruesome, realistic and harsh.”
“Wow, I enjoy this movie so much because it paved the way for other cool movies” That’s bull, how does that make the movie better? I could totally understand it if you said “I dig the movies violence and it’s realism” but saying it’s so great because it was the first one to do this, that’s crap.
I hope I have made my last point very clear. This has always bugged me the most about people and their view on movies.
that’s all you can remember? are you nuts? what about the toll-booth scene where sonny gets turned into swiss cheese? What about the Luca Brotse sleeping with the fishes? That movie was the shit.
[quote=“Kilgore Trout”]
that’s all you can remember? are you nuts? what about the toll-booth scene where sonny gets turned into swiss cheese? What about the Luca Brotse sleeping with the fishes? That movie was the shit.
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OK, so there were some more cool violent scene, that’s cool. Please read my whole post, I would very much like to discuss the last point, like I said. It bugs the shit out of me and I wonder if I’m the only one who sees this.
that’s why the thread is called “movies you hate that everybody else loves” - you have that right.
Good job, Kilgore.
Here’s the deal: I am 32 years old. My taste in movies has changed several times since I was a twelve years old. Movies I used to like I now hate, and visa versa - It is the same way with music. People are allowed to change - if they didn’t there would be something wrong. I mean, look at some of the posts from a year ago - especially the posts where people list their favorite movies or bands - they change - Sure, there are the old standards that won’t ever change (Citizen Kane, Pulp Fiction, The Beatles, The Doors, etc…) but there are other things that are going to change in your lives all of the time. It is just the way life is. I don’t think that I cared much for The Godfather twenty years ago - but as I have matured I have realized that it is a masterpiece.
Are you implying that I’m too young and immature to “get” this movie? And that somehwere along my movie watching history I will finally - like everybody else - realize how great “The Dogfather” is?
OK, whatever. What I really would like to talk about is all that “influence and status in movie history” shit. I have made my main point clear in the second half of my long post before.
No. You have the right to dislike that movie - you’re not the only person who doesn’t like it either. That is why this thread exists. Take a look at me: I hate the movie Scarface -
Do you want a cookie?
Haha, dude stop telling me I have the right to dislike a movie. I know I can say I don’t like a movie. Thank you, you didn’t have to remind me of that. you don’t get my point very much do you?