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Male Thurman?


#1

Does anyone think that Kill Bill would have been better if Uma Thurman’s role was done by a man?


#2

No. The idea of a woman who was shot while in a wedding dress and pregnant taking revenge is the reason why it Rocks!!! ;D A male in the role would have added nothing to the drama of the story. There is nothing more heart wrenching then a mother having her child taken away from her.


#3

[quote=“Todd MacD”]
Does anyone think that Kill Bill would have been better if Uma Thurman’s role was done by a man?
[/quote]

Are you fuckin’ goddamn kidding?



The whole movie is about feminity, revenge of a woman over a man, motherhood and so on…



HELL FUCKING NO, KILL BILL WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN ANY BETTER WITH A MAN!


#4

[quote=“Tristan”]The whole movie is about feminity, revenge of a woman over a man, motherhood and so on…[/quote]

Actually, it’s a love story between two violent people according to QT. Remember there were women who did that to her too. Feminist movie, yes; feminist kicking man’s ass, for sake of kicking man’s ass, movie, not so much IMO.


#5

yeah right, this movie is about a helluva fuckin lot of things…

but even if it’s mainly a love story, you gotta agree it wouldn’t work that well if Bill was gay…would it?


#6

Nah, I like the way how an actress with her looks is transformed into a soldier with hardly any “girlyness” about her. It’s part of what sets the movie apart.


#7

yea no way would a want a man in the part.


#8

[quote=“Todd MacD”]
Does anyone think that Kill Bill would have been better if Uma Thurman’s role was done by a man?
[/quote]

Hell no.


#9

yea the movie being about girls added a great touch to it plus i dont think anyone coul have played the role as good a thurman


#10

[quote=“Tristan”]
yeah right, this movie is about a helluva fuckin lot of things…

but even if it’s mainly a love story, you gotta agree it wouldn’t work that well if Bill was gay…would it?
[/quote]

No, but I’ve always thought there was something between O-Ren, Gogo and Sofie! :wink:


#11

[quote=“El Ray cannibal”]
No, but I’ve always thought there was something between O-Ren, Gogo and Sofie! :wink:
[/quote]

I believe thats wishful thinking my dear.


#12

[quote=“plunderbunnie”]
I believe thats wishful thinking my dear.
[/quote]Sofie is much to tall to join in. It was GoGo, Oren, and Sonny Chiba.


#13

[quote=“Jjp”]
yea the movie being about girls added a great touch to it plus i dont think anyone coul have played the role as good a thurman
[/quote]I beg to differ!





Imagine her in that yellow suit! She would be just as good.


#14

no. the film was written explicitly for her. the story is part her idea even, at least the character



btw, nothing in that movie would’ve worked with the bride being a male character… i mean… .it’s the BRIDE. and she has a baby!?


#15

[quote=“El Ray cannibal”]
No. The idea of a woman who was shot while in a wedding dress and pregnant taking revenge is the reason why it Rocks!!! [/quote]
Wouldn’t it be better if it was a man who was shot while in a weddingdress :wink:


#16

[quote=“Todd MacD”]
Does anyone think that Kill Bill would have been better if Uma Thurman’s role was done by a man?
[/quote]

You mean a guy dressed as a woman playing the Bride? I feel strangely excited now!


#17

Its funny cos i was expecting this kinda reply. I personally dont think that it would have worked at all. However, the reasons behind it being written for a female role, feminity, female kicking ass over female etc. is that just not all for the entertainment of men? the provocation of a character, wind her up, see how long it is before she flips? what do the women think about this topic? did they enjoy the film as much as the male audience did?


#18

yeah you’re making a point there!

as a man, I can’t answer your question really honestly, but it’s still pretty interesting!


#19

[quote=“Todd MacD”]
Its funny cos i was expecting this kinda reply. I personally dont think that it would have worked at all. However, the reasons behind it being written for a female role, feminity, female kicking ass over female etc. is that just not all for the entertainment of men? the provocation of a character, wind her up, see how long it is before she flips? what do the women think about this topic? did they enjoy the film as much as the male audience did?
[/quote]

I don’t think Tarantino casts the women, or really any women, as a way to exploit them. Instead, he seems to cast women as interesting characters, as he casts men as interesting characters, and by doing this he really balances out the sexes.

It’s not about her being a women, or a sex object, she clearly isn’t any more then any of the men in the story in Kill Bill. If she was the fights with the chicks would be full of sexual sounding moans, and she wouldn’t be smeared in disturbing amounts of blood (fight with Elle. Not exactly sexy stuff). She’d also be wearing sexually appealing clothing, having ridiculously pointless shots of her bod, etc.

Instead she’s simply a pissed off person who has been wronged. Its not this over-reactive, woman scorned bullshit either. Its a genuinely pissed off, level headed person who wants savage brutal revenge. What I like about QT is that he ignores gender more, and goes for character. Beatrix isn’t a scourned, strong, sexy or any other kind of woman. She’s Beatrix Kiddo, a character in a story that is not constricted by her gender in any way. She’s not “girly” she’s not “butch” she just is, like most of us.



P.s. I haven’t seen Grindhouse, but from the previews, QT dosen’t seem to portray women as evenly in that flick. But I’ll have to catch it before I decide.


#20

i know some people that will not watch it because it is girls and not men.