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HERO, the movie (dif cuts)


#1

Okay, I posted my last DVD, which is the extended version of HERO from china



And then there were some questions about the length of the movie. I answered there, well, I don´t wanna go too off topic, so I think we should open a new topic about the movie.

I´m just on work and have less time, so I can post later…



But feel free to post you thought about the movie and what you heart about the different cuts.

(read our posts in the other topic - please)



Please don´t start a discussion how much Miramax fucked up the movie, first it is a given and second, I opened a Miramax topic in the Chat board and we have a Mira - Hero discussion somewhere on the board…



So - the movie - the cuts…



btw I love this movie!


#2

laut imdb.com:



Runtime: China:107 min (extended version) / China:93 min / USA:96 min (ie: Pal international approx 95-99 min)



so there is only 2 versions. the fucked up one, and the original chinese one (i.e. the extended version)



according to monkeypeaches.com (your best news source for asian film):



http://www.monkeypeaches.com/HERODVD.html



Extended Version 1:

Hero Extended Edition

Disc Format: DVD-5 (Single-Side and Single-Layer)

Encoding: Region free

Aspect Ratio: Widescreen (16:9)

Release Date: July 16, 2004

Run Time: 118 minutes

Available Audio Track: Mandarin Chinese (Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround / Dolby AC-3)

Available Subtitles: Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, English

Video Format: NTSC Color

File Format: MPEG-2

Features:An extended version of the feature film incorporated with 10 minutes of never-before-seen footage deleted from the director’s cut version.

Documentary: Cause - length: 10:39 / Mandarin Chinese with Simplified Chinese subtitle (non-removable).

Notice: logo of video distributor would be displayed briefly if the subtitle was on.

US$ 4.49



Extended Version 2:



Hero Extended Collector’s Edition

Disc Format: DVD-9 (Single-Side and Dual-Layer)

Encoding: Region free

Aspect Ratio: Widescreen (16:9)

Release Date: July 16, 2004

Run Time: 118 minutes

Available Audio Tracks:

Mandarin Chinese (Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround / Dolby AC-3)

Mandarin Chinese (Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround / Dolby AC-3)

Mandarin Chinese (DTS 5.1)

Available Subtitles: Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, English

Video Format: NTSC Color

File Format: MPEG-2

Features:An extended version of the feature film incorporated with 10 minutes of never-before-seen footage deleted from the director’s cut version.

Documentary: Cause - length: 26:42 / Mandarin Chinese with Simplified Chinese subtitle (non-removable).

Picture book (12 pages)

Notice: logo of video distributor would be displayed briefly if the subtitle was on.

US$ 5.99



Extended Version 3:



Hero Extended Collector’s Edition Box Set

Disc Format: DVD-9 (Single-Side and Dual-Layer)

Encoding: Region free

Aspect Ratio: Widescreen (16:9)

Release Date: July 16, 2004

Run Time: 118 minutes

Available Audio Tracks:

Mandarin Chinese (Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround / Dolby AC-3)

Mandarin Chinese (Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround / Dolby AC-3)

Mandarin Chinese (DTS 5.1)

Available Subtitles: Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, English

Video Format: NTSC Color

File Format: MPEG-2

Features:

An extended version of the feature film incorporated with 10 minutes of never-before-seen footage deleted from the director’s cut version.

Documentary: Cause - length: 1:02:10 / Mandarin Chinese with Simplified Chinese subtitle (non-removable).

Picture book (16 pages)

Notice: logo of video distributor would be displayed briefly if the subtitle was on.

US$ 16.99

(out of stock temporarily)









So Basically you have to buy the last one because its the super limited edition with the FULL LENGHT DVD. they are suckers, because 1) they make you buy the expensive one if you want all the specials 2) they dont have english subititles with the extras.





Edit: The documentary is available seperately. Also, these are the Chinese DVDs. We can hope that the HK or other region3 discs may be even better.

Just dont buy the 95 minute fuck-up miramax version and you’re all good


#3







This is the version I have. The extended or DC called one.



The monkeypeach site says it is 118 min long.

The easydvd site says it is 108 min long…

hehehehe,

This is a fucking great movie and it is mine…yeah!





There are some people out there on other sites who say there will be MAYBE later a longer version. But this is only a rumour…



IMO this longer version is great. There is no need for a longer one. But well, I wait what will happen in the States, if they will release there a third version, I will buy it.

But the extended version is great! Do and see it.


#4

Question about your version, cps:



Is there a fight between Flying Snow and Broken Sword at the riverside? You know, where they are dressed all in green, with the waterfall in the background? In that fucked-up-Miramax-Version they were just standing and facing each other, but then I found this picture. Looks awesome:




#5

I dont think there are more than 2 versions in terms of lenght. there is the mirmAXED version, and the extended one. all others are just different editions…


#6

[quote]mirmAXED[/quote]
LOL, thats a great pun indeed and certainly better than “miraMAXED”, which would’ve been a classic oxymoron anyway, in terms of stylistic devices.



Sorry for this non-topic post. Feel free to delete it. :smiley:


#7

@ Diceman:

Alex, my DVD is just on the way to the admin. If you want, send him your adress. He will send the DVD to you and then you can send it back to me later… no problem.

I´m just buzy, but I have some pics of this sweet scene on my comp, I will post them later (evening…)


#8

so the american version is only going to be 10 minutes shorter?



and i know this topic isnt about miramax but what do you think they will do with the american dvd? add the extra time to get more buyers?


#9

why cant they just have one cut? it would be so much easier


#10

[quote]why cant they just have one cut? it would be so much easier[/quote]

because harvey FATMAN weinstein thought, smartass motherfucker he is, that the movie didnt make sense so he let it re-cut and shorten. and since miramax (i.e. buena vista) distribute interantionally, they have lots of power, so every country worldwide buys the movie not from china, but from Buena Vista. so you have the entire world flooded with the MiramAXED versions of Hero, Shaolin Soccer, Malèna etc…





the MiramAXED version of Hero is not only cut, its RE-EDITED, its not just censored, its CHANGED. i saw it in the theaters a year ago and it really was boring as shithole


#11

i have yet to see the movie, im going to see the american version of it…



it better not suck because some guy wants the movie his own way


#12

I have a region 0 that I got before Hero was even slated to come out in North America. And its the short one without the riverside battle. Make of that what you will but I believe the short version is the one originaly released in China, and the extended version has stuff that was added later not stuff that was cut. But thats just a hunch.







Anyways moral of the movie Hero…dont fuck with the emperor


#13

[quote]I have a region 0 that I got before Hero was even slated to come out in North America. And its the short one without the riverside battle. Make of that what you will but I believe the short version is the one originaly released in China, and the extended version has stuff that was added later not stuff that was cut. But thats just a hunch.[/quote]

i am not sure of that. but it was Miramax who forced all those cuts and it could be that they even released that crappy version in china. but as far as i know the original theatrical screening was the original uncut extended version


#14

Here you can find a detailed comparison (in german) between both existing versions.


#15

i dont know, might be. there’s always tons of footage for a film. there’s a 5 hour version of Apocalypse Now, that doesnt mean that its a finished film, that means thats all the footage edited together for a possibly working version. who would buy that (i would)



well, i am holding the Hero extened SE (the big box) in my hands right now. I’ll post a little review after i’ve seen it. too bad i cant decypher the booklet (all in mandarin)


#16

I have the dutch version of Hero. But there is a mistake, on the cover it says that the movie is 110 minutes long. So I thought that it was an uncut version. But the movie is 94 minutes long with the credits afterwards. I felt a little bit cheated.


#17

[quote]I have the dutch version of Hero. But there is a mistake, on the cover it says that the movie is 110 minutes long. So I thought that it was an uncut version. But the movie is 94 minutes long with the credits afterwards. I felt a little bit cheated.[/quote]

that’s the miramAXEd version


#18

I just saw Hero in theater’s i have to say that this is movie is one of the best films of 2004 already. I did get a little confused in the story, and the different variations in the story. But overall i have to say that this movie was great. Every scene was beautiful. Espically the fight at the lake. I loved the colors in this movie, how they used each variation with different colors. It was just a great movie.


#19

EVERYBODY GO SEE THIS MOVIE NOW!!!


#20

I saw it just two days ago and I think it’s great. I was browsing the IMDB message boards and there were a bunch of people calling it communist propoganda or at least a sort of parable with the so-called war on terror. I don’t really agree, but I could see how one would think that and I wanted to know what you people think.