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Ever Been Disappointed?


#1

Although I hardly feel like I’m in a position to complain, has anyone been disappointed by how a film of Quentin’s (or part of it) turned out, whether in the transition from what he wrote to be in it and what the end result was, a casting decision that could’ve been better, etc.


#2

Nope. :wink:


#3

I’m disappointed in you













































;D


#4

Honestly, no. It was more the other way around. I was surprised at how awesome his movies are.


#5

I was a little disappointed at the end of Kill Bill 1 but after I saw Kill Bill 2 I felt that Kill Bill 1 was redeemed somehow. Seeing Kill Bill 1 and Kill Bill 2 together as one whole movie it works for me. I just didn’t like Kill Bill 1 as a stand alone movie. I know QT has said that it works either way. You can watch both as one big movie or 2 stand alone movies. I’m not sure I agree with him on that point.



From a financial standpoint, it probably was a good idea to split the two movies up. From an artistic standpoint, I don’t think it was. I don’t think QT wrote it with that intention. I think QT stating that it works as two separate movies is his way of selling it to the public.


#6

I’m surprised none of you death proof bashers out there have flooded this topic yet :smiley:


#7

[quote=“nublob”]
I was a little disappointed at the end of Kill Bill 1 but after I saw Kill Bill 2 I felt that Kill Bill 1 was redeemed somehow. Seeing Kill Bill 1 and Kill Bill 2 together as one whole movie it works for me. I just didn’t like Kill Bill 1 as a stand alone movie. I know QT has said that it works either way. You can watch both as one big movie or 2 stand alone movies. I’m not sure I agree with him on that point.



From a financial standpoint, it probably was a good idea to split the two movies up. From an artistic standpoint, I don’t think it was. I don’t think QT wrote it with that intention. I think QT stating that it works as two separate movies is his way of selling it to the public.
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Wow, I feel completely different. I think they work perfectly as stand alone movies. I got a chanche to see Vol.1 in a cinema again last week, and though I saw it roughly 30 times before I almost cried at two points during the movie because it was just so awesome.



The pacing and feel are very different to each Volume. We all know it was intended as one giant movie from the start, but in the process it was clearly edited into 2 stand alone Volumes that work great on each own. They work so well infact, that I wonder if “The Whole Bloody Affair” even works as well as the Volumes do.

[quote=“Sebastian”]
I’m surprised none of you death proof bashers out there have flooded this topic yet :smiley:
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oh they’ll be here. There’s just too many of those self-proclaimed QT fans who think RD and PF are great and the rest is just ho-hum. Idiots.


#8

There’s always gonna be a favourite and a least favourite movie. Anyone who says he likes them all equally is full of bull. And in my case my least favourite QT movie is Death Proof. Now you can keep on sitting on your high horse and call me an idiot all you want. I don’t care.


#9

[quote=“Scarface”]
There’s always gonna be a favourite and a least favourite movie. Anyone who says he likes them all equally is full of bull. And in my case my least favourite QT movie is Death Proof. Now you can keep on sitting on your high horse and call me an idiot all you want. I don’t care.
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Geez dude, take a pill. I’ve said this before, but, I go through phases with each of his films. Sometimes RD is my favourite, sometimes JB, sometimes DP, and so on. They are all special to me.


#10

[quote=“Scarface”]
There’s always gonna be a favourite and a least favourite movie. Anyone who says he likes them all equally is full of bull. And in my case my least favourite QT movie is Death Proof. Now you can keep on sitting on your high horse and call me an idiot all you want. I don’t care.
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You idiot. How dare you!


#11

[quote=“Scarface”]
There’s always gonna be a favourite and a least favourite movie. Anyone who says he likes them all equally is full of bull. And in my case my least favourite QT movie is Death Proof. Now you can keep on sitting on your high horse and call me an idiot all you want. I don’t care.
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Wait a second, I don’t recall calling you an idiot. I agree about loving them all equally, I think that’s impossible. I was talking about people who claim to be fans, but infact only really love RD and PF.


#12

[quote=“Crazy Kenneth”]
Wait a second, I don’t recall calling you an idiot. I agree about loving them all equally, I think that’s impossible. I was talking about people who claim to be fans, but infact only really love RD and PF.
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That doesn’t mean people aren’t fans though. The stuff QT is doing today is miles away from what he was doing in the 90’s. Only fanboys really love everything QT has done almost equally. There’s a distinct difference in quality in some of the stuff that maybe you don’t see but the casual movie-goer does. RD and PF ARE great movies. DP is far from the quality of those flicks. You don’t have to love or appreciate everything to be a fan.


#13

I never heard anybody say “I love all QT movies equally” or sth. like that. If I did, I would think of that person as an idiot, because that’s impossible. Either you don’t remember them or you can’t make up your mind, wtf?



"Only fanboys really love everything QT has done almost equally."



I don’t know anybody like that. Not even on this forum.



I don’t want to start arguing which film has more quality. I only know what I like more and what I like less.



"You don’t have to love or appreciate everything to be a fan."



I agree. But so far he has put so much of his personality and style and sensibilities and preferences into his movies, every one of them, so I see know reason for anybody who calls him/herself a QT fan to say “JB is boring” or “DP was so lame”. That’s fine if that’s somebody’s opinion, but then that somebody is not a real QT fan in my eyes.



An artist who is really successfull will always attract a wrong crowd too. In the case of RD and PF, those two movies have attracted a lot of wannabe-hipster film snobs and immature kids who were fascinated by the violence, swearing and style of his early work. Then later, the stupid kids were bored with JB and some of the snobs were disappointed by KB.



If you understand what QT is about, if you truly “get it”, his sensibilities and his pop culture approach, then you will love Kill Bill and you will also like DP too at least some degree.



P.S.: Because I know some of you read something into my posts that I didn’t really say: I love RD and PF with all my freaking heart.


#14

[quote=“Crazy Kenneth”]
I got a chanche to see Vol.1 in a cinema again last week, and though I saw it roughly 30 times before I almost cried at two points during the movie because it was just so awesome.[/quote]


That's very interesting, because I recently watched parts of Volume 1 for the first time after a loooong while as I've bought a crazy fucking surround sound system. I found myself overwhelmed by the spectacle I was watching. There were so many instances where I found myself shaking my head at the sheer genius of which I had been reminded after a long hiatus from Kill Bill.

I can honestly say that the only thing that disappoints me about QT is how he allows for his name to be plastered over shite films, which I think works against him more than it benefits the makers of those films.

#15

[quote=“Crazy Kenneth”]
I never heard anybody say “I love all QT movies equally” or sth. like that. If I did, I would think of that person as an idiot, because that’s impossible. Either you don’t remember them or you can’t make up your mind, wtf?



"Only fanboys really love everything QT has done almost equally."



I don’t know anybody like that. Not even on this forum.



I don’t want to start arguing which film has more quality. I only know what I like more and what I like less.



"You don’t have to love or appreciate everything to be a fan."



I agree. But so far he has put so much of his personality and style and sensibilities and preferences into his movies, every one of them, so I see know reason for anybody who calls him/herself a QT fan to say “JB is boring” or “DP was so lame”. That’s fine if that’s somebody’s opinion, but then that somebody is not a real QT fan in my eyes.



An artist who is really successfull will always attract a wrong crowd too. In the case of RD and PF, those two movies have attracted a lot of wannabe-hipster film snobs and immature kids who were fascinated by the violence, swearing and style of his early work. Then later, the stupid kids were bored with JB and some of the snobs were disappointed by KB.



If you understand what QT is about, if you truly “get it”, his sensibilities and his pop culture approach, then you will love Kill Bill and you will also like DP too at least some degree.



P.S.: Because I know some of you read something into my posts that I didn’t really say: I love RD and PF with all my freaking heart.
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I pretty much said that I liked them all equally. I mean, in different ways, but they all add to the things that make my life better.


#16

[quote=“Geoi”]
I pretty much said that I liked them all equally. I mean, in different ways, but they all add to the things that make my life better.
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Well but there’s gotta be ones that you watch more often, and love more than the other. I’m sure you have a fav. and a least fav… Liking them “in different ways”, as you say, is the same things as loving sth. more and sth. less.



Sure, you’re not in the same mood every day, so one day you might get much more of a kick out of JB than out of DP for instance. But you admire and love one of them more than you do the other.


#17

[quote=“Crazy Kenneth”]
Well but there’s gotta be ones that you watch more often, and love more than the other. I’m sure you have a fav. and a least fav… Liking them “in different ways”, as you say, is the same things as loving sth. more and sth. less.



Sure, you’re not in the same mood every day, so one day you might get much more of a kick out of JB than out of DP for instance. But you admire and love one of them more than you do the other.
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Really just depends on what I’m feeling at the time. RD and PF are great, and I can always watch them. For some reason, when I’m cooking, I love to put on either RD or Scarface, and I don’t know why.



If I was forced to choose a hands down favourite, I’d choose KB. BUT, DP can give me more happiness one day than I can get from KB on that day.



Like I said, just the mood.


#18

I was really disapointed by death proof. and i am still not even sure i really like it, even thought i’ve seen it about 15 times now… for one simple reason, it is supposed to be a horror/slasher film a genre i really like… and i felt the film didn’t really deliver the goods as a slasher film.


#19

What Tony said.


#20

[quote=“Kinick”]
The stuff QT is doing today is miles away from what he was doing in the 90’s.
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that’s the part I don’t buy. what’s the criteria here? the cultural impact? i think the stuff he’s done in the 90s is not even half way up to the level of filmmaking shown in for example Kill Bill for example.

if you’re saying you love his early movies because you grew up with them, then ok, but i dont see which sort of criteria would clearly make his latest movies anything worse than the previous ones. and again DP is not even supposed to be a great masterpiece, why is everyone bashing it for not being something it doesnt even try to be