“Impressing”? Do you both mean “Impressive”?
By the way, for me certainly, I like the look of QT’s films more than any other films. It’s not just the cinematography, but his framing, how he moves the camera, the angles, the position of actors etc. I just love the whole package. There is something about it that makes me feel at home. I don’t get that with any other director. I think it’s because I’m that familiar with his direction now that everything he does, I love. I have a kind of closeness to it, like I share a closeness to my best friend or my favourite T-shirt. I mean I don’t get that feeling I get when watching other films than when I watch Tarantino’s films. Sometimes I do (Scorsese, Leone, Coppola, Coens), but never for a director’s entire film catalogue. I love QT’s films for my own reasons, and for that reason, no other person will ever get me to dislike QT’s films.
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“Impressing”? Do you both mean “Impressive”?
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yeah, why the fuck did I write that? 
must be the Swede in me.
I said it too. lol. sorry. And I’m American.
[quote=“Ify”]
“Impressing”? Do you both mean “Impressive”?
It’s not just the cinematography, but his framing, how he moves the camera, the angles, the position of actors etc. I just love the whole package.
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When I said visually impressive (or impressing) I usually mean the whole shebang. Camera placement, camera moves, angles, set design, lighting etc
Also editing, by that I mean as long as it doesn’t look like it was cut with a lawnmower or looks like a Jerry Bruckheimer film, it’s pretty good.
Well I will assign each of his movies (only the one’s here DIRECTED ie excluding films like Natural Born Killers and True Romance)
general direction - Pulp Fiction
camera movement - Death Proof
acting - Reservoir Dogs
dialogue - Reservoir Dogs
use of music - Pulp Fiction (CLOSELY followed by DP)
story telling - Kill Bill Vol.2
cinematography - Kill Bill Vol.2
visuals - Kill Bill Vol.1
coolness - Reservoir Dogs
rewatchability - Reservoir Dogs
(Just to add in my overall FAVOURITE - Pulp Fiction)
general direction - Kill Bill Vol.1
camera movement - Death Proof
acting - Jackie Brown
dialogue - Kill Bill Vol.2
use of music - Kill Bill Vol.1
story telling - Kill Bill Vol.2
cinematography - Kill Bill Vol.2
visuals - Kill Bill Vol.1
coolness - Jackie Brown
rewatchability - Death Proof
QT has grown alot as an artist over the years.
I have a tough time rating his movies because I look at them all as deliberately different than the last. Dogs was one story, Pulp was another etc etc. I think all of his films are written/directed/shot/edited great, all have great music, acting, characters.
I think DP is definitely his weirdest movie. By weird I just feel like its a very bizarre and cool mix of diff genres and it cant be put in one box or pinned down. Its not just a stalker/slasher/giallo film, its not just a car film, its not just a chick/hangout film, its like this mutant exploitation movie creature that was born from all of those things and more and it became a new species that QT created in his lab. It begins like some Crown International Pictures 70s “get high/hang out movie” and ends with a brutal spaghetti western beating with a kung fu movie sting. Crazy stuff. Only QT could do it.
One aspect I like alot is the fact Death Proof is not trying to be scary at all. Fear in horror movies is pretty much dead I think and QT knows that. To be honest, isnt real life more scary? Of course, theres always certain scare moments that make you jump and are fun in horror movies, but if youve seen one masked killer film, youve seen them all. I’m not saying I dont like them, I love alot of them. But it seems it all comes down to extreme gore scenes these days (zzzz). I gotta say, nothing scares me in most horror movies. So knowing the history of all the older slasher/giallo films, QT brings his killer right out in the open like a star and makes him interesting, likeable and even gives him aspects that make you feel a bit bad for him (Mike reminds me alot of Budd in Kill Bill). The great thing about it is, its VERY realistic. Its not supposed to be a Halloween-boogeyman type film. QT knows theres real people out there that are twisted like Mike. But also that we are ALL like him in certain ways. He makes us indentify with him first with wanting the car crash to happen (face it, we ALL did) and secondly when he’s watching the girls. Now, if youre an average guy, how many times have you seen hot girls walking down the street or sitting in a car nearby and stared at them? I have many times! Its all in those little looks Mike gives and weird fetish moments. To me, thats much more satisfying and psychologically creepy than some cartoonish Freddy Krueger type ghoul character running around slicing people up in gory ways.
One main word that describes Death Proof for me is: Conflict.
(Excerpt from my Death Proof audio commentary track) 
general direction - Jackie Brown
camera movement - Death Proof
acting - Jackie Brown
dialogue - Death Proof
use of music - Pulp Fiction (CLOSELY followed by DP)
story telling - Kill Bill Vol.2
cinematography - Kill Bill Vol.2
visuals - Kill Bill Vol.1
coolness - ALL
rewatchability - Death Proof
You should give Death Proof a few years before you suck QT’s dick. I’m glad you love it so much but how can you rate it as best dialogue? It has a few quotes to remember but they are not on the same level as say, ummm, Pulp Fiction. DP is suppossed to look like shit, sound like shit and seem like it was directed like shit so how can it be his best unless you think its was hard to make a POS. I like the movie too but come on!!! Oh well, thats just my opinion I guess. I would rank all the others above it with ease.
OK, now youre basically calling it a piece of shit. Thats not right. It definitely wasnt directed like shit, it doesnt look like shit or sound like shit either. Theres a few on purpose blips and skips but its still a quality movie. Its for each person to judge which dialogue is his best. You dont have to start insulting people for their opinions. Youre like forcing your negative opinion on other people. I cant tell if you hate the movie, if you like it or what. You’re pulling that double talk stuff. “I like it too, but its just a piece of shit”. Whatever the hell that means.
DP is a new film, in a diff genre with diff characters who have diff lives. It also reflects where QTs life was at when he wrote it. Just like Pulp was where his head was at when he wrote that. DP revolves alot around female conversations, so of course its not going to sound exactly like Dogs or Pulp Fiction did. Also, fucking forget Pulp Fiction. Thats ancient history and QT will most likely never make another film like that. It was just a special film that hit on the pulse of pop culture at that time, stuff like that really only happens once in a lifetime. People need to take each of his films for what they are. Not compare and contrast every new film he does to Pulp Fiction. Its really childish and one track mind type stuff.
I highly doubt hes even trying to top Pulp Fiction with every film he makes. He wants to switch things up and go down different roads each time. I say more power to him. Its not about trying to appease Pulp Fiction fans, he has to please himself first as an artist. If all you want from him is Pulp Fiction 2 3 4 5 6, forget it. Thats not what being a QT fan is about. Growing up is part of being a fan too. Ya cant stay in the same place or you wither and die. Art is about freedom of Experimentation and expression, not oppression.
^Thanks man for backing me up.
As I’m not going to argue with no one about what I think is great, but I don’t know why he picked my “best dialogue” out of all, when other people put things like “Best use of music” to Kill Bill. No offense Crazy_Hattori, because I have not one problem with you, nor with what you wrote, I’m just saying we all have our opinions Knoxville Kingpin.
My favorite QT movie is still Jackie Brown. I have lost track of how many times I have watched it. He had a killer cast combined with some really good character development in that one.
As far as DP, I’ve watched it several times but it is now to the point where I skip the 1st half on my dvd and go directly to the Lebanon, Tennessee second half. While I liked the group of women in the first half, I had no sympathy or empathy for them unlike the women in the 2nd half of the film.
As far as how DP compares to his other films, I think its better than Reservoir Dogs and Kill Bill, but not as good as Pulp Fiction or Jackie Brown, IMHO.
Skiping the first part is like skipping the first hour of Rio Bravo, It’s not really important to the story but you don’t care about the story, how it affects the characters and what the characters really are, they might be deeper or more shallow then you thought.
It can sometimes take 3 viewings for me to pick up on small stuff. The way some lights a cigarette can affect the way I feel about a character or make me understand how he feels in that situation without saying it out loud with words or facial expressions. I love watching movies with different perspectives and focus on other stuff then the visuals or how the story unfolds, and then analyze them to bits.
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One aspect I like alot is the fact Death Proof is not trying to be scary at all. Fear in horror movies is pretty much dead I think and QT knows that. To be honest, isnt real life more scary? The great thing about it is, its VERY realistic. Its not supposed to be a Halloween-boogeyman type film. QT knows theres real people out there that are twisted like Mike. But also that we are ALL like him in certain ways.
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that was something that initially threw me about Death Proof.
when i first heard of the plot, i thought it was going to literally be a ‘Halloween’ style slasher but with the killer driving around mowing people down instead of carving them up. i thought it would be really gory,OTT and scary.
what i got was something quite different but better in hindsight.
QT did something very clever and unusual . He made the movie (the first half in particular) genuinely creepy but even more importantly he made it CREEPIER ON SUBSEQUENT VIEWINGS.
the first time you watch it, it’s disorientating. it plays like Dazed and Confused (obviously far from a grindhouse movie)
with the cinematography of the 1974 Texas Chainsaw Massacre. (the first half of Death Proof really reminds me of the first half of that masterpiece vibe wise)
in between this are giallo soundtracked ‘stalker shots’. the creepiest one for me being Mike looking in his rear view with the eyedrops running down his face like tears.
little details like that freak me out WAY more than cheesey ‘burst out of the closet’ bullshit.
but i think Death Proof has one sequence that is actually terrifying and that’s the entire sequence from Pam getting into Mike’s car to the end of the crash, which is the darkest,creepiest thing Tarantino has ever directed IMO.
I also see Death Proof as an experimental film. Its the kind of movie you just dont see. It tiptoes in and out of a bunch of exploitation subgenres which makes it a very strange ride.
The general reaction among people seems to be that it’s boring. Fuck that. When I hear someone call Death Proof boring, it’s just a sign that they have the patience of a three-year-old child. Oh, I’m so sorry that there isn’t enough action or explosions. And what’s with all this, “it’s just boring chatter about nothing”. Tarantino writes like Mamet. If anyone knows how to write interesting dialogue, it’s Tarantino. Maybe it isn’t as exciting to people who don’t love films and exploitation cinema as much as I do, but I was thoroughly entertained and my dad even enjoyed it. My dad enjoying it is a sign of the quality of storytelling, because my dad wouldn’t sit through “two hours of boring chatter”.
Plus, the people I’ve talked to who thought Death Proof was boring liked Transformers. I think them not liking it says more about them than the film. But I’ll maintain my belief that people really just didn’t get it. Saying that “technically it was amateurish” (a comment of YouTube) shows a complete lack of understanding of exploitation cinema.
The way I see Death Proof as far as comparison to his other films is I don’t really think he meant to top any of his earlier films. Now DP is a great Grindhouse movie, actually it’s exceptionally great for a Grindhouse movie. But that’s another thing we should all remember a Grindhouse movie by all means are awful pieces of filmmaking with an excess of lurid, hardcore and exploitative material. Now to me, Death Proof dosen’t really compare to Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown or Kill Bill. it just dosen’t have the same quality as his past films, and I’m not saying that because I think Death Proof is horrible, I just think it kind of stands alone on it’s own because of the quality of genre that QT had to emulate. His crime films and Kill Bill are masterpieces, and I just think Death Proof dosen’t have that many great character’s besides Stuntman Mike, but still a very good GRINDHOUSE movie that can’t be compared to his past filmography.
[quote=“Biohazard”]
But that’s another thing we should all remember a Grindhouse movie by all means are awful pieces of filmmaking with an excess of lurid, hardcore and exploitative material. [/quote]
Cmon. Awful pieces of filmmaking? Theres plenty of awful big budget films too. Just because someone has a big budget and a great cast doesnt mean they dont make shitty films. Theres good and bad in every kind of filmmaking. Lets be fair.
Wellthe one’s I’ve seen kind of are. For example in almost every Lucio Fulci movie, the structure is a bit fucked up, a great example would be the autopsy scene is Zombi 2, the dialogue in that scene was awful and it has absolutely nothing to do with the “story”. Even when I watched it for the first time I knew it wasen’t supposed to be there. But when I watch a Fulci film I usually enjoy the gore and that’s about it.
Whatever you say Bio. Im not gonna even bother getting into this discussion. I mean, you know how I feel about these kinds of films. But now youre gonna start saying how they all suck etc etc. Thats cool.
Guess what? I like Fulci’s films MORE than Romeros. Thats my preference. So what? Im not gonna start pissing on Romeros films.