Respect his authorithhhhyyyy!
[quote=“Cyd”]
What you have just said, is totally alien to me. Angelina is the worst kind of actress, an actress totally aware of the camera being on her, who can’t let go and lose herself in a character without overdoing it. She’s a ham and let’s face it, she was only nominated because she was in a Clint Eastwood film.
I don’t like them together, I don’t like them individually. I don’t like their acting, I don’t like the way they conduct their personal lives. I just don’t like anything about them. It’s a personal preference, I’m not saying you should agree with it, but I am requesting that you respect it.
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I think you lost all credibility when you mentioned their personal lives. That has no bearing on their performances. And as for Angelina not being able to lose herself in a character that has more to do with her own method, but I do know she is a method actor so I highly doubt that to be true. It’s not really for either of us to say as we’re not on set with her or with her when she prepares for a role. And as for selfish I think she can be a generous actor, but you seem resolved to hate both of them so I doubt your mind can be changed.
I mentioned very little about their personal lives. Don’t let one minor comment cloud your entire judgement. You just can’t stand the fact that people can actually slate Angelina’s acting skills, and I will until she puts in a half decent peformance.
I haven’t liked Angelina Jolie since I saw her in Gia and Girl Interrupted, and wasn’t that during her Johnny Lee Miller days? When the clouds have lifted, you’ll see my judgement of her has nothing to do with who she’s currently sleeping with.
[quote=“Cyd”]
I mentioned very little about their personal lives. Don’t let one minor comment cloud your entire judgement. You just can’t stand the fact that people can actually slate Angelina’s acting skills, and I will until she puts in a half decent peformance.
I haven’t liked Angelina Jolie since I saw her in Gia and Girl Interrupted, and wasn’t that during her Johnny Lee Miller days? When the clouds have lifted, you’ll see my judgement of her has nothing to do with who she’s currently sleeping with.
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Oh, no of course not. I understand that not everyone can see everyone else the same way. I dunno, perhaps I enjoy arguing lol. But I do think she’s a terrific actress, she’s no Blanchette or Winslet but she’s got a great screen presence likened to a say, Greta Garbo.
I was very happy that Danny Boyle won. It was refreshing to see his constantly smiling face throughout the whole ceremony, especially after the Coens’ deadpan acceptance last year. It pissed me off that they thought it would be too “uncool” or whatever to be excited about an Oscar.
I was excited about Departures winning Best Foreign Language as well. Not bad for a director who started in adult films.
Hugh Jackman did a great job entertaining. Especially for someone who isn’t a comedian by trade. And the whole show was streamlined. Gone are the individual previews scattered throughout the show of the Best Film nominations and those Best Song displays in between awards. I like how five previous recipients present the acting awards and say some kind words to the nominees. It was really great this year.
[quote=“Noir_Fiction”]
Oh, no of course not. I understand that not everyone can see everyone else the same way. I dunno, perhaps I enjoy arguing lol. But I do think she’s a terrific actress, she’s no Blanchette or Winslet but she’s got a great screen presence likened to a say, Greta Garbo.
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Nowadays it seems to be unpopular among fans to think of “movie stars” such as Angelina Jolie as great actresses. The thing about Blanchett and Winslet is that Australian and British actors/actresses are very classically trained. In the US, with such a focus on Hollywood, it is often hard to separate an actor/actresses’ “movie star persona” from their serious acting ability. But I definitely think Angelina Jolie has got something.
[quote=“Cyd”]
It’s a personal preference, I’m not saying you should agree with it, but I am requesting that you respect it.
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[quote=“Seth_Gecko”]
Respect his authorithhhhyyyy!
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Ahah. Yeah, sorry, Cyd… I do respect your tastes and your authority ;D More seriously, it’s good to see you tried to sound not so negative about Brad Pitt taking in account he’s indeed in the next Tarantino 
[quote=“Angel”]
Nowadays it seems to be unpopular among fans to think of “movie stars” such as Angelina Jolie as great actresses. The thing about Blanchett and Winslet is that Australian and British actors/actresses are very classically trained. In the US, with such a focus on Hollywood, it is often hard to separate an actor/actresses’ “movie star persona” from their serious acting ability. But I definitely think Angelina Jolie has got something.
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Jolie was trained by Lee Strasberg one of the if not THE best, he trained also trained Anne Bancroft, Dustin Hoffman, Montgomery Clift, James Dean, Paul Newman, Sally Field, Jane Fonda, Gene Wilder, Ellen Burstyn, Al Pacino among others so she’s got some pedigree, but you’re right people have a hard time accepting American actors as talented due to the way acting works here opposed to Europe
Ellen Burstyn is one of the greatest actresses that has ever graced a screen. I cannot believe the travesty that occured in 2000, I think when Julia Roberts stole what was rightfully hers.
Her performance in Requiem For A Dream breaks my heart.
[quote=“Cyd”]
Ellen Burstyn is one of the greatest actresses that has ever graced a screen. I cannot believe the travesty that occured in 2000, I think when Julia Roberts stole what was rightfully hers.
Her performance in Requiem For A Dream breaks my heart.
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lol we’ve found some common ground. I liked Erin Brokovich but it was not the best performance that year. I would have put Burstyn, Binoche of even Laura Linney above Roberts that year.
[quote=“Angel”]
I was very happy that Danny Boyle won. It was refreshing to see his constantly smiling face throughout the whole ceremony, especially after the Coens’ deadpan acceptance last year. It pissed me off that they thought it would be too “uncool” or whatever to be excited about an Oscar.
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I don’t think their lack of enthusiasm was due to them wanting to come across as cool. By nature, the Coen Brothers are confident in themselves and their films. They couldn’t give a crap if you love or hate their work, they do what they do because they enjoy and love it. I’d rather they have that attitude and make films they want to make in the way they want to make them if it means this same stance is present in their behaviour.
A few more scattered thoughts;
Slumdog didn’t deserve all its awards, not Cinematography anyway which should of definitely went to Button even if I really didn’t like the film as a whole. Why Sound Editing went to Slumdog and not The Dark Knight I have no clue. That said though, i disagree with some here who say it shouldn’t of won Best Picture because it was clearly the best from the ones nominated. Doubt, The Wrestler and Revolutionary Road were superior movies but they were shafted. From the 5 nominees Slumdog stood on top (just as an FYI i saw all 5) so I’m happy about that. Third film this decade to get it right. (the two others were Departed and ROTK in my opinion)
Sean Penn’s win was political. It was obvious in his speech and it was obvious he expected Rourke to win the way he adressed him so nicely at the end. His political speech had little to do with art and more to do about a bunch of protesters in the exterior. That’s not cool in my book. Either way both Rourke and Penn were deserving of the award because both were amazing in their respective roles but Rourke had the edge from me because of his comeback story and the fact that it’ll be hard for him to get nominated again whereas Penn is Oscar’s political megaphone and sweetheart.
Meryl Streep broke the record but got robbed at the same time because Winslet won purely for being nominated 5 times and not winning once. I don’t think anyone can watch Doubt and The Reader and say Winslet gave the better performance objectively.
Brad and Angelina were nominated so they could sit in the front row as the beautiful quintessential Hollywood couple that they are. Neither deserved a nomination for their roles.
Hugh Jackman is a great dancer and singer but he’s no comedian so perhaps that’s why it was also a snooze-fest through out watching him. His second routine with Beyonce was laughably bad and I hope that was the one and only time he hosts.
Best moments came with Tina Fey’Steve Martin presenting, Ben Still acting like the new Juaqin Phoenix was hilarious and the Pineapple Express segment with Rogen and Franco was gold.
At first i hated the way the acting awards were presented, then it grew on me but i honestly think showing the clips is better over all. Not to mention faster.
Aight, that’s it from me for now. Saddest moment came when you watched Rourke listen to Ben Kingsley talk about him, watching him smile nervously and shake and then lose the fucking Oscar to Sean Penn’s equal rights speech. That hurt.
I think I agree with every point you made, Stig. Except the Streep/Winslet comment. I think this was Kate’s year. And it was.
Who’s the best ;D
it’s really awesome that she got it, i love her work. she doesn’t make a single bad film.
[quote=“BioBasterd”]
it’s really awesome that she got it, i love her work. she doesn’t make a single bad film.
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Someone hasn’t seen The Holiday, though she was the best thing in that one. But she really did deserve it. She also should have won in '06 for little children, far better perf than Helen Mirren’s from The Queen.
Ahah, yeah I was about to mention The Holidays too. Though indeed she was the best thing in it. Not even Jude Law or Jack Black. No idea why she did it.
Some people do projects based on who they will work with. Kate probably wanted to work with Jack Black.
Or she wanted to do something light, I’m sure she’s sick of dong such heavy dramas all the time. Now that she’s gotten the statue maybe she’ll start to relax and do some comedies and such. Her stuff is always quality though this is true (well i haven’t seen Holidays but still and Titanic was kinda boring)
But no way did she deserve over Meryl Streep’s brilliant performance in Doubt. No way. I’m very happy she has an Oscar but she’s got it for the wrong role (like many others) and I definitely agree with you Cyd on Little Children. That’s the one she deserved. And possibly even Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind over Swank’s Million Dollar Baby.
Well, I said the Little Children comment, but I don’t think winning will maker her want to do less serious work as often, if anything it should make her work even harder. Look at Streep. Won several times and continues to work hard, even though once in awhile she makes a stinker. And I don’t think Winslet will do tons of lighthearted work, I think she’s finds the process cathartic and doing serious work to be very rewarding. Which she should.
I really liked in her in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, really one of my favorite performances out of an actress.