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Zombie 101


#1

I just got finished watching the remake to Dawn of the Dead. I completely forgot that the zombies ran in the movie. Does this bother anyone else? Because it annoys the shit out of me.



On that note, does anyone think that there are certain things that a zombie should or shouldn’t do? I personally think that a zombie should NOT have the energy to run around. Anything dead and decayed should not have the ability to do this. Plus, it just seems more creepy to see zombies stumbling around.



Another thing that annoys me is that a zombie has the ability to think. For example, I’ve seen many movies where zombies are able to fire guns.



Does any of this seem a little too much to anyone else?


#2

I totally agree. I mean I really enjoy the Dawn of the Dead remake but

the running was just silly. I wouldn’t figure a zombie woulf have strong

enough bones to run.



I’ve always thought of zombies in the same realm as werewolves and vampires.

Although they’re all fictional creations they still have certain rules that should be

followed.

[quote]Another thing that annoys me is that a zombie has the ability to think. For example, I’ve seen many movies where zombies are able to fire guns.
[/quote]

When I heard that Romero was gonna do this for Land of the Dead I was kind

of excited but when I finally saw it in action it seemed completely silly. Especially

at the end when the “lead zombie” fills Dennis Hopper’s windshield with gasoline.


#3

i looked at it as if walking zombies was kind of 20 or more years ago kind of horror (if that makes sense) and that audiences these days wouldnt like to see people running away from walking zombies that actually catch up to them. still i love the movie ving rhames is awesome! and the opening montage was superb


#4

In think Bub(was that his name) is a really cool ‘smart’ zombie in Day of the Dead.


#5

[quote]audiences these days wouldnt like to see people running away from walking zombies[/quote]

You’re right that it was twenty years ago or so horror, but it has nothing

to do with today’s audience. Shaun of the Dead was a very entertaining movie

using traditional zombies. The problem with the modern versions of zombie

movies is that far too much attention is put on the zombies themselves. The thing

that made Romero’s movies so brilliant was his focus on the people trying to survive

the zombie invasion. Character development goes along way.


#6

I agree with DexPac about character development in zombie movies. This is important to the audience because most of the time, the person watching the movie will put themselves in the chracter’s shoes; asking themselves what THEY would do in this situation. And that alone makes it seem even more scary, because sometimes there’s really nothing you can do to save yourself.



As for the zombie movement, I think that people can still run from walking zombies all day long, but they can never truely RUN AWAY from them. It’s like Jason in the Friday the 13th movies. You can run all you like, but he’s still behind you! That’s what makes these movies so scary; even if they are only walking.


#7

Okay, so I know this has been a dead topic for a WHILE now, but anyways…



So you guys wouldn’t dig a zombie film where the zombies could think (albeit vaguely, like using a pitchfork or something, or setting something on fire), could run slightly and things like that?



See I always thought that was kind of cool, theres only so many ‘traditional’ zombie situations out there.



Like there was one film concept I saw that looked really cool, where the main character is a parkour artist and tries to escape from the zombies via the rooftops, only the zombies (well, a special brand of them anyway) can jump great distances and are really strong.



Some people have said their bones wouldn’t be strong enough, but come on, we’re talking about ZOMBIES. A certain creative license surely lol?


#8

DOTD stigmatized in me the way zombies were spinning.


#9

Come again?



The zombies were spinning? Arrgh my head…


#10

[quote]So you guys wouldn’t dig a zombie film where the zombies could think (albeit vaguely, like using a pitchfork or something, or setting something on fire), could run slightly and things like that?
[/quote]

Nah, Romero tried that in Land of the Dead and it kinda killed the movie for me.

[quote]Like there was one film concept I saw that looked really cool, where the main character is a parkour artist and tries to escape from the zombies via the rooftops, only the zombies (well, a special brand of them anyway) can jump great distances and are really strong.[/quote]

Get rid of the zombie angle and I’m on board. Make them some kind of aliens

or something.

[quote]DOTD stigmatized in me the way zombies were spinning.
[/quote]
How many hits of acid did you drop before you watched that movie?


#11

If a zombie can actually think, is it still considered a zombie? Or a maniac? Even though it’s still dead…maybe just a “monster”. Even though the word “monster” is such a broad term, I still think that we are dealing with something that is just totally insane now.


#12

[quote=“DexPac”]


Get rid of the zombie angle and I’m on board. Make them some kind of aliens

or something[/quote]

Aliens are cool I guess.



I just think its pretty messed up tha we can’t move on from the traditional zombie thing. They re-invent the whole vampire lore ALL the time, why not for zombies?


#13

I think we already have moved passed the traditional zombie.

If fact every zombie movie that came out in the 40’s and 50’s

slightly reinvented the zombies. I just think rotting corpses

should have limitations. If the writer/film maker doesn’t like

it, he should pick or create a new “monster”.


#14

[quote=“DexPac”]
I think we already have moved passed the traditional zombie.

If fact every zombie movie that came out in the 40’s and 50’s

slightly reinvented the zombies. I just think rotting corpses

should have limitations. If the writer/film maker doesn’t like

it, he should pick or create a new “monster”.
[/quote]Since Night Of The Living Dead every single movie has followed the same rules, except the whole zombies running thing; who cares if they run fast its the same concept that Romero brought to us nearly forty years ago. So it really hasen’t changed at all since then.


#15

[quote=“Biohazard”]
Since Night Of The Living Dead every single movie has followed the same rules, except the whole zombies running thing; who cares if they run fast its the same concept that Romero brought to us nearly forty years ago. So it really hasen’t changed at all since then.
[/quote]


Zombies running doesn’t make any sense.. it makes them less believable.. if they ever were.. less horrifying too..
I haven’t seen anyone go for creepy atmospheric slow horrifying zombies in a while now they run fast and wail makes you just want to punch them and say shut the fuck up bitch!

#16

What makes true zombies so eerie and mysterious is the simple fact that you can run for hours but the zombie will always still be right behind you. :wink:


#17

[quote=“Thousand Eyes”]Zombies running doesn’t make any sense… it makes them less believable… [/quote]

I guess. Though Romero pretty much founded the rules with his first zombie flick- why can’t his new rules (as seen in Land of the Dead) be as accepted? I think intelligent zombies are kinda cool.



Though in fairness I didn’t like Land of the Dead a whole lot- but the additional rules didn’t have much to do with it.


#18

[quote=“Naman”]
Though Romero pretty much founded the rules with his first zombie flick- why can’t his new rules (as seen in Land of the Dead) be as accepted? I think intelligent zombies are kinda cool.
[/quote]

The idea of it doesn’t really bother me at all. In fact I think it makes

alot of sense if done right. Romero just went too far with it too fast. I could

believe that a zombie “re-learned” some of the mindless tasks it used

to do on a daily basis but the idea that the gas station attendant zombie

was able to learn how to use a gun and then teach others how to use

them as well just seemed like a bit much to me.


#19

Yeah pretty much. Though the bit at the end was even more convoluted- where Big Daddy throws the barrel down the parking lot to set fire to the car’s petrol.



Like, where did THAT come from lol?



And the thing with LOTD was that the zombies weren’t the principal bad guys, which kinda blew as well.


#20

Zombies should be slow and dumb.