[quote=“Lt. BioBasterd”]
You’ve never even seen it, doll. And if you have tell me what scene you liked and why.
His name was William Wyler. Look him up.
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You’ve never seen Idiocracy either, Cuntface.
If we’re referring to each other by pet names…
It’s an epic that does refrence the bible. 8:2 - the ropes when Sidney Barringer is about to kill himself from the building are present. The Exodus recitacions. The film deals with people who are beyond lost and are awakened from a bizarre occurence of god - which are the frogs. It’s a dark film I think, and it had a very intricate structure that almost no one could do. I am not denying the film is grand in scope and emotional investment, it just narrows down to personal taste, and I think I like William Wyler more than Quentin or Paul. I’ve only seen 4 of his films: Ben Hur, Jezebel, Dodsworth, The Letter, and I fell in love with them.
Right on. Now fuck off to the TCM forum! 
Yes, please do. I second what Ordell says.
Never! I was here before you two!
William Wyler´ s world - YouTube
And…
[quote=“Lt. BioBasterd”]
Name one that you would consider to be better than Ben Hur.
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Elem Klimov’s Come and See. Somewhat of an epic and the most emotionally cutting of war films. Forget that manipulative jingoistic Saving Private Ryan and Schlinder’s List. This film has more cojones and honesty than Boyscout Spielberg ever will. But that’s just me being a bit of prick so we won’t go there.
Come and See is one of a hundred or so that is better than Ben Hur.
[quote=“Lt. BioBasterd”]
It’s an epic that does refrence the bible. 8:2 - the ropes when Sidney Barringer is about to kill himself from the building are present. The Exodus recitacions. The film deals with people who are beyond lost and are awakened from a bizarre occurence of god - which are the frogs. It’s a dark film I think, and it had a very intricate structure that almost no one could do. I am not denying the film is grand in scope and emotional investment, it just narrows down to personal taste, and I think I like William Wyler more than Quentin or Paul. I’ve only seen 4 of his films: Ben Hur, Jezebel, Dodsworth, The Letter, and I fell in love with them.
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You know just because you have the priviledge, yes priviledge and not right, to post on here doesn’t mean it’s an opportunity to masturbate your know-it-all brains onto the forum walls. Excuse the language but its clearly what you’re doing. I can just see some a-hole 20-something sitting there with that smug satisfied smile on his face like a 14 year old that just discovered the magic of Sasha Grey and vaseline.
[quote=“F.W.”]
Elem Klimov’s Come and See. Somewhat of an epic and the most emotionally cutting of war films. Forget that manipulative jingoistic Saving Private Ryan and Schlinder’s List. This film has more cojones and honesty than Boyscout Spielberg ever will.
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Preach it F.W., Spielberg can suck it!
No, I like a lot of his flicks but about the time of Schindler’s List he started making these fucking movies, don’t know why I don’t like 'em as much as almost everybody else but I really don’t.
My two fave Spielberg’s: Duel and Jaws. Love Duel.
Now are we naming “epics” that we think are better than Ben-Hur, or movies in general?
[quote=“GRINDHOUSE”]
Now are we naming “epics” that we think are better than Ben-Hur, or movies in general?
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I think when He first mentioned it it was just movies but it quickly became epics. I’d say epics.
Yeah, he makes mindless blockbusters for money and should NEVER attempt to make legitimate art because it becomes more like “art”. But he’s got Hollywood and America by the balls and tear ducts and is milking their emotions for money so whatever works, I guess. Just wish he wasn’t so lauded for it. :’(
[quote=“GRINDHOUSE”]
Now are we naming “epics” that we think are better than Ben-Hur, or movies in general?
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I cited Come and See because its just in general, one of the best films ever made about anything. If you don’t feel shattered and numb at the end of that film, I don’t know if you can be saved.
Well IMO:
Gone With the Wind
Seven Samurai
Lawrence of Arabia
Spartacus
off the top of my head are better than Ben-Hur.
Oh and:
Ran (1985)
Once Upon A Time In The West
Casablanca
[quote=“GRINDHOUSE”]
Once Upon A Time In The West
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Oh my god everything including and following The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly by Sergio Leone were far superior epics.
I’ve never thought of Casablanca as an epic though. Guess I’ll have to see it again.
^ Yeah I was kind of back and forth with is Casablanca really an epic. People say it is.
Sergio movies, OUATITW, TGTBATU, and Once Upon A Time In America are all great.
[quote=“Ordell Rodriguez”]
Oh my god everything including and following The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly by Sergio Leone were far superior epics.
I’ve never thought of Casablanca as an epic though. Guess I’ll have to see it again.
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I don’t think that’s an epic but more an exercise in film noir. Once Upon a Time in the West is great but The Great Silence can stand up to it any day, right…?
[quote=“GRINDHOUSE”]
^ Yeah I was kind of back and forth with is Casablanca really an epic. People say it is.
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Yeah I’ve heard people say that and it never clicked with me. It always came off as a love story with some spy games thrown in for good measure. Great movie regardless.
[quote=“F.W.”]
I don’t think that’s an epic but more an exercise in film noir. Once Upon a Time in the West is great but The Great Silence can stand up to it any day, right…?
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HAHA! You stepped cautiously into that opinion. The Great Silence is a great movie but not epic and probably not better than Once Upon A Time In The West. I mean you don’t compete with one of the best directed movies of all time!