THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE BLACK AND WHITE MOVIES INSTEAD OF THESE NEW HIGH TECH COLOR FILMS. IM NOT KNOCKING THE COLOR FILMS BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE BLACK AND WHITE FILMS IN TODAYS SOCIETY. WE NEED TO GO BACK TO OUR ROOTS.
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Black and White films are completey unecessary unless theyre made that way for budgetary reasons or artistic reasons. Films in black and white sometimes convey the grittiness, dark mood, and bleakness of a story (eg Schindler’s List)
A lot of the time though some black and white films made today come off as pompous arty fartsy pieces of shit. Im all for black and white if it means something but people making b&w films nilly willy for no good reason and calling their films “art” are most likely making a piece of crap.
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Black and White films are completey unecessary unless theyre made that way for budgetary reasons or artistic reasons. Films in black and white sometimes convey the grittiness, dark mood, and bleakness of a story (eg Schindler’s List)
A lot of the time though some black and white films made today come off as pompous arty fartsy pieces of shit. Im all for black and white if it means something but people making b&w films nilly willy for no good reason and calling their films “art” are most likely making a piece of crap.
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true, very true
directors and producers back in the day couldn’t wait 'till color-film came out, in the 50’s/60’s nobody wanted to see black&white’s anymore and nobody wanted to make em anymore (with a few exceptions here and there) cause everybody was so releived that color is a possibility
B&W shouldn’t be taken advantage of nowadays, if there isn’t a grounded reason why you should use it, don’t, Schindler’s List HAD to be b&W, Ed Wood HAD to be b&w, to capture the spirit and time of it, but please, keep the arty fartsy pieces of shit away from my door 8) shoot in color, why? because you can
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Black and White films are completey unecessary unless theyre made that way for budgetary reasons or artistic reasons. Films in black and white sometimes convey the grittiness, dark mood, and bleakness of a story (eg Schindler’s List)
A lot of the time though some black and white films made today come off as pompous arty fartsy pieces of shit. Im all for black and white if it means something but people making b&w films nilly willy for no good reason and calling their films “art” are most likely making a piece of crap.
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Nobody would go to see a black and white movie in the theaters…they would lose a shitload of money, and therefore don’t make them anymore. If you want black and white, go rent a movie.
Why? I don’t want to see colour that much, I see colour everywhere, watching black and white films is somewhat relaxing, especially in the theatre, lights off, widescreen, 2.56:1 or something, all grayscale. Have you noticed how annoying colour looks in Hitch’s films? The Man Who Knew Too Much and Trouble With Harry look like moving paintings with exaggerated colour scheme. Wow, colour. In the real world the sky is blue and the grass is green, stare all day if you like.
Give examples for “arty fartsy pieces of shit”.
well i would go and see a black and white movie
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Why? I don’t want to see colour that much, I see colour everywhere, watching black and white films is somewhat relaxing, especially in the theatre, lights off, widescreen, 2.56:1 or something, all grayscale. Have you noticed how annoying colour looks in Hitch’s films? The Man Who Knew Too Much and Trouble With Harry look like moving paintings with exaggerated colour scheme. Wow, colour. In the real world the sky is blue and the grass is green, stare all day if you like.
Give examples for “arty fartsy pieces of shit”.
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Hollywood is a business. They are in business to make money, not to entertain you. The fact that they are entertaining you is pure conicidental. They don’t really care abut people like us because we are a very minute percentage of their target market. I still watch Stanley Kubrick films and I watch Pulp Fiction at least three times a year. They are looking for the run of the mill zombie to see thier shitty products.
we should move on. sin city is a good example, its not merely ‘black and white’ it uses shades in a specific way to illuminate whatever scene is on the screen. why camp when we could improve?
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we should move on. sin city is a good example, its not merely ‘black and white’ it uses shades in a specific way to illuminate whatever scene is on the screen. why camp when we could improve?
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I understand why people find black and white to be appealing, but most people don’t. Sin City is a great movie but I doubt that many people have actually seen it - as opposed to Pulp Fiction. Sin City worked as a b&w because it is a comic book, but Pulp would have been shitty if it weren’t color - as would most movies.
sin city worked because it brought something new to black and white
Color?
By the way, (this has nothing to do with it, but I just thought of it) I love it in the Wizard of Oz when Dorothy opens the door to Oz and then everything is in color. Beautiful.
there is a difference between watching a movie that plays around with black and white and is made to be in black and white and just watching a film with no colour ( no i was not referring to that part in kill bill ) besides when im watching a purely black and white film i seem to just imagine the colours anyway ( not consciously )
Ed Wood, Elephant Man, and Young Frankenstein. They all looked good in B&W.
I find it weird that you can argue your vision with the MPAA. I realize the options this can give, but I find it weird that Hostel is R while a colored HOBL-scene results in Kill Bill getting an NC-17. Especially if they did it because the scene was over-the-top. Monty Python had a lot of over-the-top violence too, you don’t get sick of that. Hostel on the other hand. It didn’t sicken me, but I don’t find it hard to believe that this film can be hard to watch for some people.
I thought The Man Who Wasn’t There, Dr. Strangelove, Clerks and Raging Bull were also very good as black and white films. Like Seb says, it makes you focus on the acting more.
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Like Seb says, it makes you focus on the acting more.
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Exactly. B&W movies also set a different mood that colored films can never give you. Some movies just play better in black and white.
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Exactly. B&W movies also set a different mood that colored films can never give you. Some movies just play better in black and white.
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B&W is so much more difficult to do correctly - with color you know what you’re getting into, but with black and white you have to visualize what each color is going to look like. contrast is so important and you really have to have the experience to know which colors are going to contrast well with eachother. Only an asshole would think that b&w was an inferior way to film a movie. I think that it is really quite the contrary - b&w requires imagination, thought, and a discipline to focus on the bare essentials that will create a work of genius if done correctly.