Well if the creator behind maximum overdrive says Kill Bill is bad it must be true
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[quote]King not liking the film is totally fine.
King saying the film didnt work, or isnt as good as another film is BS. Hes just wrong. Just because hes a writer doesnt mean he knows how to review an Exploitation film.
But the bottom line is: I dont give a fuck what King thinks. 
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you the man toothpickvic!
I love when people bitch and moan about horrible shit they see in movies. Bambi’s mom died. The girl with the red jacket in the heap of dead bodies in schindler’s list was there. Fivel couldn’t find his family in American tail. There is shit in movies that are there for a reason. It’s for the audience to feel some sort of emotion. If you don’t feel the emotion they were trying to invoke then put a bullet in your own face because you just don’t get it. If you didn’t think the buck scene was fucked up then you are a sick sick person. It doesn’t mean it wasn’t nessesary.
As for King, he already made his run at greatness before most of you were born so he gets a pass(even though he is dead wrong). When QT is 55, he’ll have his dreamcatcher. King probably shouldn’t have opened his mouth because they write in 2 different genres of movie. King is horror/suspence/drama book writer where QT is out-of-the-box/gangster/black comedy movie writer. BIG difference. You probably don’t want the West Side Story writer is commenting on ichi the killer and vice versa.
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As for King, he already made his run at greatness before most of you were born so he gets a pass(even though he is dead wrong). When QT is 55, he’ll have his dreamcatcher.[/quote]
I dont think QT is gonna be washed up ever. Hes always talking about he wants kids to love his stuff even when hes 70 years old. QT is going to be a director thats gonna always go out with a bang. Dont count on his last film being a piece of shit, or ANY of his films for that matter. Hes 40 now, in 15 years hes still gonna be just as crazy as he is now. Mark my words.
I think that king has every right to comment on kill bill as he pleases My big problem was he was compairing it too “Mystic River” what the fuck?
Thats like compairing oranges and apples
Mystic river is a drama with suspense
Kill Bill is much more then a one catogorey movie it’s a Grindhouse,black comedy,action,anime and someother stuff I can’t think of. My point is you can’t compare those these too movies because they are on to very different levels
[quote]Two weeks ago I was reading my entertainment weekly and stephen king did a peice on “Do movies matter” at the end of his part 1 he said in part 2 of his colume he would talk about two movies mystic river and kill bill vol 1 he said both movies remarkable in there own rights and why one is a classic. Well lets just say if you read part 1 you guessed that kill bill was not the “classic”.
When I got my et in the mail saturday I was siked too read part 2 of his peice. Lets just say my mouth was on the floor after. He basically called kill bill a tepid movie as he put it, then went on to say how mystic river was just such a good movie and how 10 years from know you would know who was in it and what it was about unlike kill bill.
Did anybody else read this
if you didn’t go to www.entertainmentweekly.com [/quote]
Who’s Stephen King? Just kidding, but who cares. Honestly, the man spends his entire life writing horror books, he’s going to like the “Darker” one more then the “Better” one. But i have to say, Stephen king is a great author.
I almost agree with you vic. I’m just saying that QT will eventually lay an egg whether it be now or later. Even Kinji Fukasaku(director of Battle Royale) layed an egg a few times even though he directed his greatest movie when he was 70. it happens. Scorcese shit the bed with bringing out the dead so it’s not like QT is invincible…
[quote]I almost agree with you vic. I’m just saying that QT will eventually lay an egg whether it be now or later. Even Kinji Fukasaku(director of Battle Royale) layed an egg a few times even though he directed his greatest movie when he was 70. it happens. Scorcese shit the bed with bringing out the dead so it’s not like QT is invincible…[/quote]
Well you dont have to be invincible when you make movies, you just have to love what youre doing, believe in your work and only make the movies you really wanna make. QT doesnt have to please anyone but himself when he makes his movies. So unless he wants to make a total dud he wont do it.
QTs future isnt written in stone. Lets give him the benefit of the doubt that he wont make a huge dud in his career.
You scare me… I don’t have a problem with gay folks but it’s almost silly how hard some people swing from QT’s balls on this site. It’s almost maniacal. Good christ. Do you think Scorsese doesn’t love what he does? Name 1 director of more than 6 movies that hasn’t laid an egg. Just because he loves what he made doesn’t mean he didn’t shit the bed while doing it. It isn’t a slight to QT. It’s almost a law of movie making. If you really want to get down to it, Jackie Brown wasn’t as good as it should have been. I’d really like to know how old you are because you sound either a.) very young, b.) a groupie that would stick a fish up his ass if QT asked you to, or c.) a psychopath. I tried to reply as nice as possible at first because I thought I was dealing with a normal person. sorry.
WTF?
Why dont discuss this shit when QT has laid an egg?
WTF, QT rules…he would really have to try to fuck up…his formula is always the same: cool actors with cool lines in a fucking whoop ass movie that can only excist in a movieworld and backed by camera angles, references and the best possible music for each part…
I dont see how he is ever going to fuck up…maybe if he changed his way of making a movie, but why would he do that?
you are b.
What?
did I say something? lol
[quote]you are b.[/quote]
I dont understand that…sorry
Somehow I missed the issue that had part 2 in it, but in part 1, King said that he’d talk about Mystic River and Kill Bill, both of which were “remarkable in their own ways, and one is a classic”. (His words.) And honestly, King is right when he says that Kill Bill is flawed. Because it is. It’s not a perfect movie, but it’s not trying to be. It’s supposed to be over-the-top and cheeseball. Any King fan will tell you that he’s a hardcore movie lover - which, if I’m not mistaken, is Kill Bill’s target viewer. He talks about movies constantly, especially outside his novels. He’s looking at both Kill Bill and Mystic River from a fan’s perspective. He has a genuine love for the medium, and that’s why he has the right to criticize them. We all have a right to criticize Kill Bill (or praise it), and why? Because we’re movie fans.
And if anyone doubts King’s artistic talents and thinks he’s just churning out mediocre novels for the money, he/she needs to read Hearts in Atlantis, Bag of Bones, and The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon.
[quote]Somehow I missed the issue that had part 2 in it, but in part 1, King said that he’d talk about Mystic River and Kill Bill, both of which were “remarkable in their own ways, and one is a classic”. (His words.) And honestly, King is right when he says that Kill Bill is flawed. Because it is. It’s not a perfect movie, but it’s not trying to be. It’s supposed to be over-the-top and cheeseball. [/quote]
Its flawed because its purposely trying to be over the top and cheeseball? Uh, no. Kill Bill is a perfect genre film and to be honest its better as a piece of cinema art than Mystic River, which wont be remembered in a year. Mark my words.
[quote]Its flawed because its purposely trying to be over the top and cheeseball?[/quote]
No, it’s flawed, but the flaws are on purpose. It sounds like King expects it to be this perfectly tuned action film, but it’s not, and it’s not supposed to be.
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No, it’s flawed, but the flaws are on purpose. It sounds like King expects it to be this perfectly tuned action film, but it’s not, and it’s not supposed to be.[/quote]
Exactly. So why the hell would I care what Stephen King thinks of a film I know more about than him?
Because as I said, King is part of Kill Bill’s target audience: the hardcore movie lovers. He has different expectations that you do, obviously, because you disagree with his opinion. But that doesn’t make his opinion any more or less valid than yours.
Ok, this thread is getting more attention than it deserves.
BOTTOM LINE: So Stephen King didn’t like Kill Bill. Who fucking cares?. It’s no big deal. He’s just a movie lover among millions, and as a movie critic he’s in the absolute minority regarding his opinion on Kill Bill. It would have been cooler and more fruitful if an actual review by an established movie critic was picked up and discussed, instead of trying to guess why King did or didn’t like the movie.