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[quote=“RatQuiRit”][quote=“Cpt tonyanthony”][quote=“Ify”]A few moments I thought were VERY cool:




  • On-screen text naming characters (I wish there were more of these moments)

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that’s the thing I liked the least. that and the scene between shoshanna and marcel. the french dialog sounds phoney (bad translator) and the actor who plays marcel is not very good. it’s a good thing that scene is short.[/quote]

Couldn’t agree more about that scene. Definitely the thing I didn’t like the most about the movie.

The text naming characters was alright but I wish he stops doing that at some point, it’s like OLD NEWS since KB :smiley:

Still looks cool, especially for Hugo Stiglitz, the audience laughed their ass off haha![/quote]


I agree, didn't care for the texts and such gimmicks. I also agree, with the exception of Hugo Stiglitz' intro...they did laugh, haha. Stiglitz is my favourite character in the whole piece. I'm glad he was one of the few Basterds to go into La Loiusiane, cos otherwise the scene wouldn't be what it is...people were cracking up every time it cut to Stiglitz looking pissed.

Well, I'm just back from watching it a second time last night, with an even bigger audience. Funny thing to note was how it took this audience who were generally older to get the laughs...it wasn't until the middle of chapter 2 that they started seeing it wasn't as serious as they thought.

I'm pretty sure it'll sustain another few viewings [in full] from me, but if I had to guess I'd say it's going to be around Kill Bill - a lot of great scenes throughout but I want more with characters I like..it doesn't feel a complete, satisfying experience, but rather another film of moments. To echo The Playlist's and Harry Knowle's latest reviews: it's original and fun, but also frustrating. I guess ultimately we'll have to take it for what it is - [b]an entertaining, yet uneven flick[/b].

I was pretty sure what was gonna happen on second viewing, that I would be waiting for my favourite parts...and it did, although thankfully there are quite a few. Chapter 3 was pretty uninteresting for the most, Bruhl and Laurent's charatcer's didn't do much for me here, except for the odd parts where Landa shows up or whatever, I just wanted to get back to the Basterds or at least La Loiusiane.

After that it gets back on track, Fassbender is great, but Myers is terrible. La Loiusiane is long, but for Stiglitz alone it is worth it. And the end Mexican stand-off between Aldo and Willi is great and reminds me of the Marvin Nash and Mr. Blonde situation (they've got a little kid at home but get killed regardless).

Putting Out Fire just injects uplifting energy at the beginning of chapter 5 and is prob up there with Mia getting ready in PF to Son of a Preacher Man. Pitt is hilarious throughout and I had my doubts about him as the time got nearer...by the time the fake I-talion comes on people are in stitches...though funnily enough [i]not[/i] at Eli Roth's part, haha. God, but Roth is terrible, I was cringing after he beat the Nazi and starts jumping about shouting, eugh. He's OK when he's not speaking. The ends great too. 'Scalp Hermann' haha.

To its credit, Basterds' lengthy run time flies by for the most part. And apart from the obvious sequences; the opening chapter and La Louisiane (and although terrific, scenes I feel which could have lost another few minutes here and there), the film feels undoubtedly rushed and hurried in parts.

The opening alone is better than anything in Death Proof and that's a reason why it'll be in my player more than once, not to mention the other great scenes. Do I feel torn or mixed? Probably, but I'd rather that, than flat out dismissal again. And the good will likely weigh out the bad in the long run too. I could go chapter 1 and 2 tonight again no bother. :)
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Yeah, the Italian scene is, in my opinion, QT’s funniest scene. I was laughing my ass off like 2 minutes before Pitt’s “arrivederci!” on my 2nd viewing. First time it took me like 5 minutes to get over it. Fuck this scene is irresistible, I didn’t remember it at all from the script, but when you see Landa joining them, you can tell he’s gonna speak a fluent Italian just because his character HAS to be a fucking pain in the ass for every character you care for in the movie. The audience laughed so hard too…and yeah, I felt the same about people taking their time for starting to laugh…When Landa smokes his fucking big pipe in the beginning, it’s more a “wtf laughter” than a genuine one. But people eventually get to understand that it’s an “almost-comedy” they’re watching.



The La Louisiane scene is also one of my favs. Pitt’s lines about the mexican standoff are excellent. For me, the actor who shines throughout the movie apart from the obvious Chris Waltz, is Diane Kruger (by the way, could any german speaking guy here confirm me that she has a weird english accent when she speaks german? It sounded like that to me, but I can’t speak german so…) she’s wonderful.



I felt the same frustration but I already felt that reading the script. I also would have liked to have more emphasis on the basterds, especially Donowitz and Stiglitz (Til Schweiger is brilliant, yeah).



Although, I really, really have to disagree on Eli Roth! I couldn’t stop playing back his yelling after he kills that nazi in my head this morning. For me, it’s one of the highlights of the movie. The whole “let’s wait for the bear jew to kick your ass while I’m eating my sandwich” part is incredible, I fucking love it, well, that sequence as a whole is brilliant, but Roth’s entrance is the icing on the cake.



I really agree on the fact that after the first viewing, we’re gonna watch the movie while expecting or fav scenes to pop up. But I don’t find the other scene that much boring and uninteresting. I genuinely don’t see how the movie feels rushed, the only thing I wished QT had done differently is the Sosanna/Marcel “plot” scene. As Tony said, it looks phony as hell and I’m very disappointed with it.

I also didn’t find that Mike Myers acting was bad. I actually enjoy his presence a lot. Also, about that scene, could anyone tell me who the fuck is the guy sitting near the piano? I think he must be Churchill, but why the hell didn’t Hicox pay him more respect? I don’t know…he looks like a weirdo smoking his cigar while trying to understand why the fuck he’s sitting on that piano’s chair.





Oh, and one detail QT changed and that I’m not very pleased about, is at the end of Sosanna/Landa’s meeting. In the script, we see that Sosanna had peed her pants and that’s the way we understand how frightened she was. Maybe it was too degrading or shocking for the audience…but seriously…replacing it by a fake panic attack and burst into tears? I thought it looked fake and unnatural as hell. I mean, nobody does that, right?

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[quote=“Cpt tonyanthony”][quote=“Ify”]A few moments I thought were VERY cool:




  • On-screen text naming characters (I wish there were more of these moments)

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that’s the thing I liked the least. that and the scene between shoshanna and marcel. the french dialog sounds phoney (bad translator) and the actor who plays marcel is not very good. it’s a good thing that scene is short.[/quote]

Oops, I should have made myself more clear, I was talking specifically about when it happened in the final chapter, in white text with the arrow pointing at the character. I wish there were a few more moments like these (he did film the Goebble’s one, but it wasn’t in the final film).

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I saw an advance screening last night and it was fucking awesome. It ranks pretty high up there among my favorites, I’d definitely put it above Jackie Brown and DP. My favorite scene was definitely the bar scene. The entire i was just like this :o .



The highlight of the night was that FUCKING TARANTINO was there. He showed up to give us and intro and did a QnA afterwards!

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saw it yesterday. really great, but far from his best work. i’d rank both kill bills, jackie brown and probably also pulp and death proof over it. it doesnt have enough genius, truly satisfying moments in it. it isn’t nearly as great of an accomplishment as kill bill, it wasn’t a mount everest.am i happy? yes. will it be better the 2nd, 3rd time? yes. simpy because it’s another “hanging around with the characters” movie.



the virtuosityand intensity, and action of kill bill was missing.



the greatest acting came from waltz, pitt and - to my surprise - brühl.



the soundtrack wasn’t that super for a qt movie.

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just got back from the midnight showing…lets see…what to say…geez, first thoughts…ok…first of all ive never read the script…to the people that say its not like if like Kill Bill was a WW2 movie, thats a lie…it has many Kill Bill-ish things in it…the chapters…some of the same music from KB (which is a little disappointing, cmon Quentin I know you have a million records), even the same credit font for crying out loud



that being said, the movie is really really good



favorite parts…

-the La Louiseanne scene was really fucking good, some of Q’s best writing and directing…ever…

-The first chapter was very well made I thought…very spaghetti western-ish with the silence, the music, the pipe lighting and so on

-the scene with Shoshanna and Zoller in the projection room was done really well…every scene with Daniel Brulh is really good …second best performance behind Waltz

-The second chapter was good, but too short I thought

-the movie was way funnier than I thought…my audience thought it was hysterical, especially Pit…and the Hitler Bear Jew discussion was hilarious too

-Shoshanna on the big screen…holy shit



dislikes…

-I dont care what anyone says…I wanted to see more Nazi scalping across the French countryside

  • and Im sorry…the Shoshanna Bowie scene was overhyped



    bottom line is the movie is great…and i NEED to see it again…very soon
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[quote=“Col. Crazy Kenneth”]saw it yesterday. really great, but far from his best work. i’d rank both kill bills, jackie brown and probably also pulp and death proof over it. it doesnt have enough genius, truly satisfying moments in it. it isn’t nearly as great of an accomplishment as kill bill, it wasn’t a mount everest.am i happy? yes. will it be better the 2nd, 3rd time? yes. simpy because it’s another “hanging around with the characters” movie.



the virtuosityand intensity, and action of kill bill was missing.



the greatest acting came from waltz, pitt and - to my surprise - brühl.



the soundtrack wasn’t that super for a qt movie.[/quote]

You had to be afraid when you seen that I actually liked it, right? Seeing as we’re the exact opposite when it comes to film tastes and QT, something more assuring to would have been me despising it, haha ;D



Just kidding, although I think it was possibly more entertaining than those films you mentioned [except Pulp] I probably liked it the same amount as you…which is great considering it’s me.


[quote=“Movie_Villain”]just got back from the midnight showing…lets see…what to

dislikes…

-I dont care what anyone says…I wanted to see more Nazi scalping across the French countryside

  • and Im sorry…the Shoshanna Bowie scene was overhyped
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I agree about the lack of Basterds causing more mayhem…and it really should have been that until he scraped most of that story and made it about cinema because it didn’t interest him to make a kickass men-on-a-movie that he would have made 10 years ago, haha.



But the Shosanna/Bowie scene was great…really, you put a kickass tune over some images and let it play all the way and not turn it down or cut it off and you’ve got me!

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[quote=“RatQuiRit”] Also, about that scene, could anyone tell me who the fuck is the guy sitting near the piano? I think he must be Churchill, but why the hell didn’t Hicox pay him more respect? I don’t know…he looks like a weirdo smoking his cigar while trying to understand why the fuck he’s sitting on that piano’s chair.[/quote]

I loved that scene!! Yeah, that’s Winston Churchill as played by the legendary Rod Taylor. I thought it was great how Churchill is just sitting there smoking his pipe. It seemed just like a scene from a Kubrick film. He’s sitting there in silent mystery, and then when he does speak he obviously knows what’s going on, and he just oozes cool. “Brief him”, hahaha, LOVE IT!!

[quote=“RatQuiRit”]

Oh, and one detail QT changed and that I’m not very pleased about, is at the end of Sosanna/Landa’s meeting. In the script, we see that Sosanna had peed her pants and that’s the way we understand how frightened she was. Maybe it was too degrading or shocking for the audience…but seriously…replacing it by a fake panic attack and burst into tears? I thought it looked fake and unnatural as hell. I mean, nobody does that, right?[/quote]

Was that the same scene where it shows the piss running down her feet? If so, that was the foot scene I mentioned quite a while back where I said he has his most fucked up foot-fetish scene yet (after readng it in the script), hahaha. I loved the sound that plays when Shosanna realises it’s Hans Landa. You’re right, when she starts breaking down (if you can even call it that) it looked very fake. It was her greatest acting moment. I’m surprised QT used that take.

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Crickets chirp





Hey where’s everyone?!



Anywho, I’m just two hours away from watching the grand opening of Basterds! I’m watching it twice today, I got the showtimes and tickets ready my bitchez! 11:45 and 3:15 will be the showtimes, so I won’t be able to post my review until later tonight! I’m so excited! ;D

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Oh this thread is intended for the US release since most Europeans saw it already - so don’t come here and spew your spoilers, alright. Not until a healthy amount of people have seen it! In America not France!

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Yes it must be the same scene. In the script, after Landa gets away, the camera goes down and we see that she’s peed on herself, I didn’t remember he wrote that it was pouring down on her feet though, but yeah…that would definitely qualify as the sickest foot fetish scene he wrote, haha

And yeah, I loved everything that happened just after Landa’s entrance. The sound, the look and expression on Mélanie Laurent’s face, that was good and sufficient to knew she’s stroke with intense fear. No need for that fake burst into tears moment at the end of the discussion.

Also, this scene is pretty amazing when I think of it. Cause it’s very awkward and the audience feels uncomfortable for Sosanna, but we still get to find refuge in laughter because of Sosanna’s little mimics and quick looks mostly provoked by Goebbels, and also when Landa orders a glass of milk, adn Sosanna whispers a very discreet and cute “oh”, awkwardly funny. And the “quick fuck” scene is one of the most impromptu shit QT ever put in one of his movie, I loved it, but the audience had this weird laughter, haha. I loved it in the script, although he changed the line for…a pig squeal apparently :o

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[quote=“RatQuiRit”]Yes it must be the same scene. In the script, after Landa gets away, the camera goes down and we see that she’s peed on herself, I didn’t remember he wrote that it was pouring down on her feet though, but yeah…that would definitely qualify as the sickest foot fetish scene he wrote, haha

And yeah, I loved everything that happened just after Landa’s entrance. The sound, the look and expression on Mélanie Laurent’s face, that was good and sufficient to knew she’s stroke with intense fear. No need for that fake burst into tears moment at the end of the discussion.

Also, this scene is pretty amazing when I think of it. Cause it’s very awkward and the audience feels uncomfortable for Sosanna, but we still get to find refuge in laughter because of Sosanna’s little mimics and quick looks mostly provoked by Goebbels, and also when Landa orders a glass of milk, adn Sosanna whispers a very discreet and cute “oh”, awkwardly funny. And the “quick fuck” scene is one of the most impromptu shit QT ever put in one of his movie, I loved it, but the audience had this weird laughter, haha. I loved it in the script, although he changed the line for…a pig squeal apparently :o[/quote]

Hahaha, yeah, that squeal was fucking hilarious. It was such a random moment, but it works in showing Goebbels’ relationship with her. It’s unlike other QT flashbacks in that the scene isn’t really relevant to what’s happening, I don’t think. It was just a random thing. ;D

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[quote=“Lt. BioBasterd”]Oh this thread is intended for the US release since most Europeans saw it already - so don’t come here and spew your spoilers, alright. Not until a healthy amount of people have seen it! In America not France![/quote]

There is no reason to have seperate review topics based on when you watched it and in which country. We’ll just have one topic. Post in it after you have seen it.

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Haven’t seen it yet, but I cannot wait!



Only 4 more hours! ;D ;D ;D

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I just saw it and was AMAZED. I’m not the kind of guy who would go see the same movie in a theatre twice, but I can’t wait till it’s released on DVD so I can watch it again!

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It was really really good, proves that he’s still got it after the slightly disappointing Death Proof. I have to watch it again to let it sink in. Some scenes seemed to drag on a little bit too much (felt like the bear jew was beating his bat against the tunnel wall for about 2 minutes too long before he appeared (wtf) - there are other moments like that too). I think the violence was a bit too much. Did we really need to see the bear jew beat that nazi to death? I think it should’ve been filmed like the ear cutting scene in Reservoir Dogs, where you know what happened but you don’t see it. This movie is by far the most violent Tarantino film.



Other than that the movie was great. Three scenes stick out in my mind; the scene at the bar in the basement (very tense!); the scene where the theater burns to the ground while the bear jew and omar slaughter the nazis with their bullets and the scene where Aldo is speaking pathetic italian in front of the jew hunter.



BTW this is the first time i’ve posted on the forums since the upgrade. Looks spiffy! O0

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It’s not QT’s most violent picture. Maybe it’s the one that has the more realistic violence, but don’t you remember the Kill Bill Vol.1 Slaughter? I mean, Sophie gets her arm cut off and yells while crawling on her own blood.

The Bear Jew scene is filmed from a very wide angle, I mean you aren’t even forced to watch the nazi getting beaten up and you can watch Aldo or the other basterds in the background instead.

I think you said that because WWII actually happened, so that makes the violence more real as it is meant to be. Lots of people will think it’s too violent because they still haven’t made peace with the fact it’s a fiction. Simple as that.



That’s what I said to my girlfriend when she told me the same thing. I told her it was nowhere near as violent as Saving Private Ryan for example, and even if it was, those violence scenes didn’t happen so it shouldn’t get to us.



I think the violence should be seen as a fun thing as it’s just nazis, and as QT made Pitt say it: they’re not human. We should regard violence in IB the exact same way we’d watch this girl getting her eye pulled into that wooden stick in Zombi2 for example. It’s a pretty fucking disgusting scene, but it’s also actually fun to watch.

For me, getting back 50 years too late at the nazis is the point of the movie. If we laugh at Goebbels’ and Hitler’s portrayals, why shouldn’t we laugh at this caricature of the proud blond nazi schutze when he gets what he deserves?







It’s just the way I see things. Still, I have to admit the scalping and swastika scarification were pretty disgusting.

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[quote=“RatQuiRit”]It’s not QT’s most violent picture. Maybe it’s the one that has the more realistic violence, but don’t you remember the Kill Bill Vol.1 Slaughter? I mean, Sophie gets her arm cut off and yells while crawling on her own blood.

The Bear Jew scene is filmed from a very wide angle, I mean you aren’t even forced to watch the nazi getting beaten up and you can watch Aldo or the other basterds in the background instead.

I think you said that because WWII actually happened, so that makes the violence more real as it is meant to be. Lots of people will think it’s too violent because they still haven’t made peace with the fact it’s a fiction. Simple as that.



That’s what I said to my girlfriend when she told me the same thing. I told her it was nowhere near as violent as Saving Private Ryan for example, and even if it was, those violence scenes didn’t happen so it shouldn’t get to us.



I think the violence should be seen as a fun thing as it’s just nazis, and as QT made Pitt say it: they’re not human. We should regard violence in IB the exact same way we’d watch this girl getting her eye pulled into that wooden stick in Zombi2 for example. It’s a pretty fucking disgusting scene, but it’s also actually fun to watch.

For me, getting back 50 years too late at the nazis is the point of the movie. If we laugh at Goebbels’ and Hitler’s portrayals, why shouldn’t we laugh at this caricature of the proud blond nazi schutze when he gets what he deserves?







It’s just the way I see things. Still, I have to admit the scalping and swastika scarification were pretty disgusting.[/quote]

yeah to me Kill Bill’s violence was so over the top it was like a cartoon. It was funny. But you’re right - it’s that the violence in this movie is shown realistically. That’s what made me squirm.

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[size=85]New York Premiere - Zeigfeld Theater, last show time - 1/2 full house, oh well.



I want to to see it again too, and soon. I haven’t felt that way about a movie in a long time. It had flaws, like trying too hard sometimes to make sure the audience made the proper connections.



But the drama was really well done. I thought it was a crazy movie at first, through the first half. Then very moving. I’m not sure what it was. SPOILER

I liked the way the german star of the movie within the movie felt bad about all the killing he did, until the girl says no to him, then it’s something he drops on her very hard.



Lots of Wow moments. [/size]

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Inglourious Basterds was awesome! -Just awesome! Tarantino did it again!!



I was not expect this movie to be anything that it is. It was far better than I thought it would be. There were times when I would get totally lost in the soundtrack, I would forget what was actually happening on screen. Did I hear some Ennio Morricone? …I think I did!!



The scenes were stretched out a bit, but they totally sucked you into the movie at the same time. There were some people in the theatre getting bored with the scenes, but my eyes and ears never left the theatre. There were also times when I would catch myself being sucked into the movie so much, I thought I actually had a connection with the characters and was a part of the movie. That proves great screen writing on Quentin’s part. This isn’t the first Tarantino movie with long scenes of dialogue, either. I’m not surprised; this is expected with a Quentin Tarantino movie. That’s why I’m such a big fan of his work. He doesn’t rush scenes out the door. We get to flirt with the characters a bit before they die! :smiley:



I fell in love with the bar scene; from start to finish. For some reason a few parts of the scene even took me back to Four Rooms’ “The Man from Hollywood”. And does this man know how to create a good shootout or what? These Mexican standoffs just keep getting better and better.



Of course Brad Pitt was hilarious. You could say that he even stole the show. His Tennessee accent is priceless. I was in tears when the Basterds were trying to speak Italian. Probably my favorite part in the movie. As far as actors go, Eli Roth kicked ass. He looked like he was having so much fun playing that part. Christoph Waltz get my choice for best actor, however. He Plays such a great bad guy. I never expected the movie to end the way it did. I love how Donowitz got his revenge on Hitler at the end. Priceless.



So if I had to say something negative about the movie, it did get old having to read all of the dialogue. It felt like I was reading a book on tape after awhile. It kind of took me out of the experience and keeping me from actually watching the movie. But this movie was so wonderfully shot, that it when I was actually able to WATCH the movie, it made up for all the reading. There were even some shots that reminded me of Hitchcock’s style. Simply beautiful.



I am a Basterd.



1.Pulp Fiction

2.Reservoir Dogs

3.Kill Bill

4.Jackie Brown

5.Inglourious Basterds

6.Death Proof