Seen Inglourious Basterds? Post Here (Spoilers Within)

Oh, well. If he’s not gonna do it, there’s always others.

Yep, life goes on. But it’s sad that 10+ years ago, he was held as the leader of the next batch of directors to come out of America, and now his movies either bomb (Grindhouse in full), people starting to hate his films, or he just seems to look like a shell of himself.



I will be a Tarantino fan still though, will always look forward to his films as long as he keeps doing one.

[quote=“F.W.”]
He used a lot of the same fonts that popped up over freeze frames that introduced certain characters. The narration was very Kill Billish and there was write ups on characters imposed over certain parts to explain who they are and what not. The freeze frames got laughs in some parts but like, it wasn’t necessary to use the same font as he did in Kill Bill.
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Maybe QT is trying to make that one of his trademarks… 8)

[quote=“G”]
He also said he will only do movies that start as a blank paper from now on. [/quote]

He said it a few weeks ago. When he was in London, he said he wanted to shoot a movie in the UK and that he wanted to adapt someday the Game/Set/Match trilogy by Len Deighton (a British spy novel trilogy set during WWII, he talked about it already to the UK press during the DP promotional tour). I haven’t read the trilogy but I seen The Ipcress Fille which was a Len Deighton adaptation and was a more realistic, less glamourous answer to 007. If the Game/Set/Match novel is in the same vein, it might be an interesting project for him.

Even though i have immensely enjoyed kill bill (one of my favourite movies), inglourious basterds and the grindhouse experience as a whole, i would agree that i think tarantino’s next movie should definitely be a more serious film like one of his first three to rebuild his status as an epic director. he has the talent to do so, i also just hope he comes away from this exploitation genre for a bit and maybe go back to it in the not so distant future when hes had a few more classics done.

[quote=“dandadub”]
i would agree that i think tarantino’s next movie should definitely be a more serious film like one of his first three to rebuild his status as an epic director.
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You seem to forget that at its release time one of the main attacks against PF was that it was just a parody of genre cinema, a brilliant but superficial movie, the same reproaches made in the sixties to A Fistful of Dollars. PF was never meant to be a “serious” movie the way The Godfather or Taxi Driver were. It was more aiming at Breatheless, a movie that just cared about reflecting the energy, the mood of its era and never meant to provide a big vision of its time. It’s not QT’s cinema that has turned more superficial, it’s times who have changed since the nineties.

Finally wrote something on the film. It’s here -



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[quote=“Ordell Rodriguez”]Oh hell Kinick. Not what I wanted to see.



Do you think the third chapter really plays better in color?



What type of Kill Bill type gimmicks were included?[/quote]

Yeah, the type of stuff that F.W. mentioned. The names popping up onscreen to introduce a character or to remind us who a character is (Shosanna, now that her backstory was omitted) I wasn’t really fond of and I guess it ties in with my main problem - the pacing and it feeling rushed in parts. It’s like he had to sacrifice stuff and really cram a lot of information into a short amount of space.



I don’t know if this is the right term, but exposition was a big thing I felt missing. The film is basically a collection of extended scenes but I don’t think they are tied together in the best way at all. I mean after the opening chapter, by fading to black and popping up another title, it’s like we’re suddenly in another movie (and not to mention by time we get to Mike Myers in chapter 4)…but it’s all great stuff in those chapters, I just wish they came together a bit more…I mean there’s really no resolution between Shosanna and Landa come the end, at least that’s what I thought. We just suddenly jump from one location to another. I’m glad he put back in the short scene before La Louisiane because that at least helped that transition, but after that I would have liked to see them leave La Loiusiane and go to the vet’s house as it was in the script, but it just cuts to Bridget on the table immediately after. Speaking of that scene, was the part where Brad yells ‘Oh yes, yes, yes, yes’ and tells that Utivich will be driving in the movie…cos that might explain why a few were confused as to how Utivich showed up at the end?



Saying that though, Ordell, that’s a great review coming from me. I really didn’t expect to like it that much. I mean at absolute best I knew it would only rival Kill Bill and at worst could be a big a mess as Death Proof…for me. I can safely say it’s the former. You’re sure to love it, heck if I liked it, anyone here is sure to love it, haha. I just wish it was more cohesive and…connected? Although there’s great stuff in both stories, I think it would have been best if he stuck with one.



And I’ll end on something positive and give my Top 3 moments in the movie:


  • The climax of the opening chapter
  • The opening of the final chapter
  • Shosanna and Fredrick in the projection booth.



    (Music is used to great effect in all three)

Ah, i Dunno. I can’t find myself comfortable with the new lokk of the Forum. :o



@Ify: great job with the review. Nice to read.

Funnily enough for all the comedy thats in Inglourious Basterds I think it is a return to a more “serious” artistic direction. Theres a lot of True Romance-esque scenes in it though having said that a nice lean spy story would be a great addition to his filmography next.

I just read on the Frontpage, that German volks should watch the movie in the originial version, instead of heading to an “normal screening”. Thats sh*t. You can/should watch it in a theater near you, where the movie is dubbed and thats because they DO put a lot of responsibility in dubbing. you can’t prevent german to watch it that way or maybe get them off the thought to watch it anyway in GE. Don’t right.

In fact, yes 50 % cant understand English in a appropriate way. Thats sad. ::slight_smile:



EDIT: Get Pulp Fiction for example, great job with the voices basically identical to OV.

[quote=“bigbeard60”]I just read on the Frontpage, that German volks should watch the movie in the originial version, instead of heading to an “normal screening”. Thats sh*t. You can/should watch it in a theater near you, where the movie is dubbed and thats because they DO put a lot of responsibility in dubbing. you can’t prevent german to watch it that way or maybe get them off the thought to watch it anyway in GE. Don’t right.

In fact, yes 50 % cant understand English in a appropriate way. Thats sad. ::slight_smile:[/quote]

well the point is that the movie is only English in very few parts. the movie is 4-lingual. any full dubbing will inevitably ruin this aspect of the film, which, unlike with many other movies, is a very integral part of the film, its characters, and writing. yes, a lot of effort is put into dubbing in Germany, but its generally lousy and any dubbing always lessens the quality of a movie, no matter how good it’s dubbed, it’s still dubbed, and things get “lost in translation” or sound stupid. what’s the point of having a linguistic genius SS colonel if in the end all you hear is german. the entire opening sequence makes no sense if it’s in one language, etc.



in fact, it might be that they actually left the french and italian parts untouched and only dubbed the english parts. that could be

[quote]well the point is that the movie is only English in very few parts. the movie is 4-lingual. [/quote]

Right, i can follow you. And yes, i might watch it twice in OV and Dubbed.

But the sense of the movie stays the same as in US-English.

careful, probably a few minor spoilers.



Well, 4 lingual, make it 3 lingual as the italian part is really small.

Watched it a first time alone today, gonna watch it again tonight with my girlfriend.



I didn’t follow the critics and most of the opinions here, but I think I’ve read we shouldn’t expect the same movie as it appeared in the script…And I disagree with that. There are a few scenes that I was expecting to see in the movie and that weren’t then, but appart from that, I really don’t see where the differences are.

The only thing I wasn’t too happy about is Shosanna’s falling off in slow motion at the end of the movie, I really expected that to be an epic moment but it wasn’t quite as incredible as what I expected.

Rest of it was just as I pictured it, the musics are awesome, the acting is great (except Melanie Laurent on her scenes with Marcel (Jacki Ido), both actors sucked, aaah soo bad…I knew she had to fuck it up at some points).



Something I thought after walking off of the theatre, is that I really loved the movie, but I’m pretty sure that QT’s tuch plays a major role in me loving it. I just love the way he directs, can’t explain, it’s like that.



What happenned with the french new wave part and the introduction with Mme Mimieux, and the Donnowitz’ flashback? I was looking forward to that but well…I guess it’s gonna be on the director’s cut or something :stuck_out_tongue:

We can’t edit at all now! Just wanted to withdraw what I’ve said about Sosanna, I’m very pleased with that last scene. And actually Melanie Laurent isn’t that bad, it’s just Jacky Ido who’s terrible.

Melanie Laurent was actually one of my favourite things about the movie, loved the dinner scene with her, Goebells and Landa and the whole cat people scene. I actually think another hour on to the movie would have actually balanced it out a bit more and sent it into 10/10 territory (before kill bill I think he would have done this. Having said all that I’m still gonna see it for a 2nd time this week, Hope its as good as I remember it.

I JUST came back from the theater. First off: I didn’t like it as much as Kill Bill or Death Proof (yes, I like DP), BUT, and that’s a really major but, the movie is fucking great. Yes, some scenes could have been edited a little better, but that’s just nitpicking. The overall effect is one of exhilarating epic madness. None of Tarantino’s previous movies is quite like this one. I won’t go into certain scenes, that will take several more viewings and much more ruminations. Here are just some impressions:

  • the majority of the music works great, and even though I like Putting Out The Fire, there are other songs that work out actually more beautifully. Un Amico especially sends chills up one’s spine.
  • Waltz is superb. I’ve seen a couple of his other roles and he certainly outdid himself.
  • I really want some strudel with creme right now.
  • GO AND SEE IT IN THE THEATER! not so much because it’s a movie by QT, although that is reason enough. The real reason: the audience’s reactions. People jeered, cheered, laughed and applauded throughout the movie. And my nation’s audience doesn’t get hyped up so easily.
  • Did I mention I’d like some strudel right now?



    Final thoughts: I went hungry to the theater and I feel like I’ve been fully satisfied. Inglourious Basterds is one superb dinner with great meals of different varieties. I dooubt there’s an oscar here but who gives a fuck?! I certainly don’t. I just climbed Mt Everest with one of my favorite directors. And there’s some snow still left on my back that won’t melt away any time soon.

A few moments I thought were VERY cool:


  • The screen ratio changing as Perrier LaPadite’s daughter moves aside the cloth hanging from the washing line to reveal the Nazi’s coming in their vehicles


  • On-screen text naming characters (I wish there were more of these moments)


  • The close-ups to Aldo Raine during his monologue to the Basterds, leading to a super close-up (a la Leone)


  • The humourous split screen sequence


  • The introduction of Sgt. Werner Rachtman (who I thought was fucking brilliant in this)

[quote=“Ify”]A few moments I thought were VERY cool:




  • On-screen text naming characters (I wish there were more of these moments)

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that’s the thing I liked the least. that and the scene between shoshanna and marcel. the french dialog sounds phoney (bad translator) and the actor who plays marcel is not very good. it’s a good thing that scene is short.

[quote=“Cpt tonyanthony”][quote=“Ify”]A few moments I thought were VERY cool:




  • On-screen text naming characters (I wish there were more of these moments)

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that’s the thing I liked the least. that and the scene between shoshanna and marcel. the french dialog sounds phoney (bad translator) and the actor who plays marcel is not very good. it’s a good thing that scene is short.[/quote]

Couldn’t agree more about that scene. Definitely the thing I didn’t like the most about the movie.

The text naming characters was alright but I wish he stops doing that at some point, it’s like OLD NEWS since KB :smiley:

Still looks cool, especially for Hugo Stiglitz, the audience laughed their ass off haha!