Pulp fiction is an homage… and not only 2 the pulp fiction genre as was mentioned before…
Basically the way i see it, and without being 2 much specific,  it’s a some what mixture of French new wave flicks with b-grade attitude and vibe 2  it.  however I do agree that the homage here is much more subtle then in kill bill for instance… pulp fiction really did reinvented the whole genre which doesn’t contradict it being a homage… that’s what basically every great filmmaker does, takes from others and makes it his own… and I think no one can argue that pulp fiction is nothing but original…  ÂÂ
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I’m not saying they don’t exist, I’m just saying…where are they?
And I don’t think Pulp Fiction is a homage. Just because French new wave films and old shitty 2 cent stories resemble the film, DOES not make it a homage.
That would mean everymovie is a homage to another movie to a homage to another movie.
I think Pulp is just a movie. Wasn’t trying to be a french new wave, just trying to be a movie.
Whereas Kill Bill was a huge fucking homage, there was nothing but tributes to spaghetti westerns, kung fu movies, and samurai flicks.
But in Pulp there arn’t really huge homages like that…
[quote]Alive is a movie where the people crash and end up eating each other to stay alive. Based on a real event.
Air Force One is a hijack film, not a disaster film.
QTs film is going to be in the tradition of 70s movies like Airport 77 and movies like that. Irwin Allen disaster movies like The Poseidon Adventure and The Towering Inferno. Also the movie Earthquake.
Those films were made up of ensemble casts of classic Hollywood actors all put together in a crisis situation. Very fun movies too.
This project sounds like a perfect opportunity for QT to put together his dream cast of forgotten 70s actors. [/quote]
In that case, I don't suppose I've actually seen any Airplane/disaster flicks. Definitely seems like a nice, obscure genre for QT to breathe new life into, in any case.
Though, one thing you KNOW is going to happen, is that QT is going to catch flack for doing an airplane flick after 9/11. Maybe it won't deal with terrorism or mass death on a national scale, but the media are still going to take pot shots at him for tackling it. The media is stupid, and, as a result, QT's really gonna have to brace himself if he wants to get this project off the ground, I think
[quote]  The media is stupid, and, as a result, QT’s really gonna have to brace himself if he wants to get this project off the ground, I think[/quote]
Pun ? Off the ground…AIRPLANES!!! hahaha…eh…
But I dunno…It seems kinda unlikely this will happen. Since he’s gonna doing Inglorious Bastards next (which I see coming in either 2005 or 2006 at latest) so that would mean probably in 2009 we’d see this movie. Thats quite a long assed way from when the terrorist attack on the WTC occured.
You’re right Kentuckey, but if you ask me. I don’t think this movie will ever get [pun] off the gound. It just seems like QT is brainstorming possible ideas rather then actually choosing at this point.
“That would mean every movie is a homage to another movie to a homage to another movie�
I think there is much truth 2 that…
First of all defying homage itself is a bit problematic…
And any way I don’t think what makes pulp an homage is it’s resemblance 2 those “2 centâ€? stories… in the French new wave case I think it’s the revolutionary style, storytelling and narrative approach that is the homage more then the plot… never mind the clear references 2 those movies like for example the dance scene which resembles the one in Godard’s flick: Bande àpart (which had 2 influence tarantino enough 2 name his producing company after it)…
If you ask me Pulp Fiction was influenced by other movies, but it isn’t a full on homage. A homage, to me, is a movie that is paying tribute/reviving a certain genre/specific movie. And that was what Kill Bll was doing and is what this “Airplane” movie is going to do. But Pulp Fiction was, in a few parts, mearly influenced, But if you ask me, Pulp Fiction was almost %100 origional, and rests in a league of it’s own.
[quote] Air Force One is a hijack film, not a disaster film. [/quote]
Since when isn’t a hijacking a disaster.
I’m with Starkey on this one. Some movies contain homages, other movies are homages. The Big Lebowski is the ultimate bowling noir, Kill Bill is the ultimate kung fu flick. Fargo and Pulp Fiction are original works that have homages in them.
of course it was influenced by other movies as well , this is just one out of many…
but Ok I see what u’r saying but I guess we just look at it differently… now let me just stress one last point and I’ll be done with it… pulp being an homage doesn’t contradict it being 100% original. I’m done
I just looked at My DVD collection and thought to myself…Is Mad Max a homage, is the Matrix a homage, is Empire of The sun a homage, is Three Kings a homage, is Full Metal Jacket a homage…and I thought… “well to some degree, yes” I could say that to all of the movies I own, including Pulp Fiction. But then I think about the movie Kill Bill, and realise that every aspect of this movie was a tribute to something else.
My point is that this “Airplane” movie is going to be just like Kill Bill, in the sence that every aspect of it is going to be a homage. And that isn’t what I want to see next from Tarantino, I would like to see a movie like RD or PF where it only borrows, in a few parts, aspects form other films. But other then that will be %100 origional.
what Starkey said above is what I’ve been meaning to say ;D
This is my first post, but I would just like to point out that you guys are talking about Kill Bill as if both volumes have already come out. You said that Kill Bill was mainly action and hardly any of Tarantino’s awesome dialogue, and the first volume basically was, but I remember reading somewhere that Quentin said the second volume would be less action and more of his dialogue. I think you should give the entire movie, both volumes, a chance before you stereotype a movie as an action flick just from the first half of it. Also, about the homage thing, I think it was very good that Tarantino made Kill Bill because, while I used to think martial arts movies were goofy, I now have a wish to see some, so maybe an airplane movie could do the same, although I do agree that the rest of the things he does from now on shouldn’t all be mainly homages. And I would also like to see another movie along the lines of Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs, but I don’t know if Quentin wants to revisit that genre.
[quote]This is my first post, but I would just like to point out that you guys are talking about Kill Bill as if both volumes have already come out. You said that Kill Bill was mainly action and hardly any of Tarantino’s awesome dialogue, and the first volume basically was, but I remember reading somewhere that Quentin said the second volume would be less action and more of his dialogue. I think you should give the entire movie, both volumes, a chance before you stereotype a movie as an action flick just from the first half of it. Also, about the homage thing, I think it was very good that Tarantino made Kill Bill because, while I used to think martial arts movies were goofy, I now have a wish to see some, so maybe an airplane movie could do the same, although I do agree that the rest of the things he does from now on shouldn’t all be mainly homages.[/quote]
Welcome to the board Nice Guy.
I think its great that youre interested in watching more kung fu movies after seeing Kill Bill Vol 1. I think thats one of the main things that QT likes to have happen after people see his movies. I think movies like QTs are special because not only are they really cool and entertaining, they are also highly inspiring to people who want to become filmmakers and artists. You can actually see how to direct a movie and all the great tricks you can do. They also have something alot of other films dont have, and thats a deep resonance with the viewers. You always find new things in them, they are the kinds of movies that hold up really well after repeat viewings.
As far as QT doing movies filled with homages, Kill Bill actually isnt the first. All his films have homages to other films and pop culture. But I would say that Kill Bill Vol 1 is probably the most jam packed with references. I think QTs “Movie Movie Universe” is basically a world where movies are like water and oxygen. For those like us who live and breath movies, its made for us. I think its great that QT can pay homage to other films/directors but also do it in his own way, with his own twists on the genres he works in. So you are getting all the cool references but also seeing something new and done in a different way. A reinvention if you will.
Isn’t Travolta a bit old too play a action hero??
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