OK, I just watched it last night and when The Bride was doing her VO, it went something like this (this is very loosely adapted):
"1 year after the masscare in El Paso, Texas, Bill started to back up his protege O-Ren into being the head of the world’s top mafia, the Yakuza clan… blah, blah… and after the final sword was unseath, O-Ren stood the victor."
It is never made clear that O-Ren actually became the head of the Yakuza after 1 year, it was only then did Bill start backing her up!
For watching it over 8 times, deliveryman, I thought you would’ve caught this.
Well that’s assuming that it took 3 years for her to become in power. I was assuming it was 1 year that Bill backed her financially was the same year that she came in power.
The assumption of it taking O-Ren some time to get into power is more logical in linear terms. I still think that the dinner celebration and the Showdown at House of Blue Leaves occured during the same night.
[quote]I see your guys logic, I’m just saying, on Conan he showed the clip where GoGo is coming down the stairs and getting ready to fight The Bride. QT himself explained it as “this is a scene with GoGo Yubari, O-ren’s 17 year old body guard.” I’m going to assume that it took O-ren a couple years to come to power, because she had to work her way up from the bottom so to speak. But that’s just me.  [/quote]
I saw part of that Conan interview and I am positive that Quentin said she is 16, not 17.
I doubt that it was in the same night… “They had a dinner celebration”, then they go out for dinner (again) the same night?
[quote]When Uma Thurman’s character (The Bride) tried to escape the assassin life, they “did her in”.  Yet, I wondering why they didn’t they do the same to Vernita Green who has also quit the life and started a family of her own.
Another point I was wondering.  When O-Ren Ishii became the head honcho of the Tokyo underworld, it was 1 year after the massacre in Texas.  Yet Sophie, and GoGo (Almost 4 years later) are wearing the exact same outfits, at the House of Blue Leaves?  They also said GoGo was 17 at that time, which means she would’ve been around 20 or 21 (yet still in school?), when she has the brawl with Uma Thurman.
I don’t know if these are errors really, just some things I’ve been wondering about.[/quote]
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[quote]I doubt that it was in the same night… “They had a dinner celebration”, then they go out for dinner (again) the same night?[/quote]
yeh it was a different night. the scene where she cuts off boss tanaka’s head wasnt a dinner scene, just a meeting. so it seems like the whole HoBL thing happened 3 years after that. yeh sophie and go-go are wearing the same thing, maybe its just their uniform…i mean pretty much everyone wears a uniform for work in japan.
Whoops, nevermind ignore that post, I’m stupid.
I gotta say…i really doubt Go Go goes to school anyway.
I counted 3… after she crossed off Vernita Green in the Pussy Wagon well… that writting was different then what they showed later in the movie.  Not really a big deal I guess.  But then when The Bride crossed off O-Ren’s name it was black on black ink.  Then @ the end of the movie on the airplane when she was making the list she was writing the names in red ink.  Am I missing something here?
She re-wrote the list?
[quote]yeh it was a different night. the scene where she cuts off boss tanaka’s head wasnt a dinner scene, just a meeting. so it seems like the whole HoBL thing happened 3 years after that[/quote]
No, we never know exactly when O-Ren took power. It takes her at least a year, then all it says in the movie is “…and when the final sword was unsheaved, O-Ren stood the victor.” or something like that. It could’ve taken her two or three years, we don’t know. So it’s very possible that the two events happened in the same night. I mean, when Go Go and Sofie are driving off (in the same clothes, mind you), it’s about dusk in Tokyo. When the Showdown at HoBL happens, it’s much later in the night. To answer questions as to why have 2 “parties” in the same night, well O-Ren may just have wanted a few select 88’s to have some fun away from the stupid bosses.
Also, in the script, the two scenes do happen in the same night…
OK, concerning the Death List Five (in chronological order):
- Before talking to Sofie in the car, we see a shot of The Bride crossing off O-Ren’s list in black (no Death List Five title is present, but it may be off-screen). This part is NOT in black and white (to my knowledge). She is wearing her bike gloves.
- When leaving Japan, in the plane, she makes a new list from scratch (which appears later when she kills Vernita). She crosses off O-Ren.
- After killing Vernita, she crosses her name off, with O-Ren’s already crossed off.
I think Tarantino made a mistake with the first crossing. Probably wanted that one to be more of a visual/symbolic thing where it never took place, but just a marker to show O-Ren’s death. It doesn’t really make any sense for her to make two lists and the gloves will throw people off.
Maybe she lost it! ;D  I’d love to see the reaction of the person that finds the misplaced ‘Death List 5’… “Okayyyyyyyy, this person has about 30 years of counselling to go.”
I’m not so sure about this, but in the anime sequence where O-ren kills that fat dude who murdered her parents; she says something in Japanese to him, but her mouth remains closed all the time. Maybe she was just thinking aloud?
I found a new error, when I watched it again last night.  Ok, when she’s wheeling her self to Buck’s Truck, she gets in the truck leaving the wheel chair where it was.  Finally when she ‘wiggles her limbs out of entropy’ 13 hours later, the wheel chair is gone!
actually, if you listen closely, when she grabs the drivers seat to get in, you hear the wheelchair roll backwards…most likely a result of her lunging forward out of it
When you see her drive off, you still don’t see the wheel chair, you can get a whole view of the parking lot, or a lot of it atleast. You would be able to see the wheel chair.
[quote]When you see her drive off, you still don’t see the wheel chair, you can get a whole view of the parking lot, or a lot of it atleast.  You would be able to see the wheel chair.[/quote]
Whose to say a nurse starting their shift didnt take the wheelchair and put it back in the hospital?
Also - i think with Buck and the trucker, i dont think mnay people obviously go in that coma room often, so its likely they were undiscovered while the Bride was in the Pussy Wagon for 13 hours…
Cos if they were discovered the police would have likely busted the Bride sitting in the Pussy Wagon.
Well then you could make up any scenerio, in order for something NOT to be an error. You would think the nurse would see her in the car, while she was putting the wheel chair back, so I doubt that. I think it’s an error.