On the cannibal subject, Cannibal Apocalypse was made for the same industry and fans as Cannibal Holocaust. Was made around the same time as Holocaust (I was way off on where I thought it fit in amongst the others in their time period) and it has John Morghen in it! Of course it’s in league with Ferox/Holocaust ;D Cannibal Man could be argued as being from a different subgenre, due to it being a Spanish film and not really an all out cannibal splatter flick - but I would consider it as part of that cannibal subgenre due mainly to the fact that if you were ordering it in the eighties out of a zine or buying it from Blackest Heart on the internet back in the day - it would be found right next to those films; if that makes sense.
As for Fight For Your Life, I would probably consider it part of the home invasion/kidnapping genre. Last House on the Left, House on the Edge of the Park, Hitch Hike, etc.
As we’ve seen from this thread however - these subgenres aren’t always so cut and dry ;D
Oh and Dstryed, the avatar is of the immortal Chin, Bruce Campbell 8) It’s an older picture.
Pants: True, its definitely in the same family as Last House, House on The Edge of the Park and those kinds of flicks.
Theres a very fine line there. Exploiting Racial hatred towards black people in movies (shocksploitation) isnt the same as Black empowered crime/action/revenge/horror genre movies (blaxploitation).
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LOL! It seems like theres a “sploitation” for everything!
You called it, though, didn’t you, Putney?
I find it funny though that the definition of the word still has more to do with black people than with other races, although the writer does get into the Rush Hour films a little, which are NOT exploitation films in any way, shape or form! LOL.
I find it funny that the writer says that blaxploitation empowers black people, while raceploitation ridicules them. By the end of Fight for Your Life, the black audience IS empowered. He beats down the racist. And by the end of Bone, the white woman is lost without her black stud.
I think this is just a case of a writer finding some kind of a niche and milking it for all it’s worth. It just proves you’re not the only one to coin the term.
Now that I think about it, I don’t believe I ever saw a movie where a chinese family was kidnapped and the kidnappers lashed them with racist epithets before opening a can of kung fu whoopass on em. Maybe that’s what makes those films mentioned blaxploitation?
I think in FFYL, the shocking racism aspect is what drives the film, it is made as a potboiler so by the end everyone is going nuts when Jessie Lee and the others get their deserved comeuppance. It brings everyone together. It differs from Blaxploitation films where you know youre going to see the title character as the main focus doing diff things to move the film forward.
Jessie Lee Kane just happened to grab a black woman instead of a white/Asian/Latin woman. It wasnt their race that saved them, it was them just doing what anyone would do in that situation.
There is no funky theme song after it ends proclaiming they got back at The Man.
Okay Putney, when I get that book I’ll read the section on FFYL and let you know.
Come on Putney, you don’t think the theme song counts?
I love this:
This Screening is part of event: QT6
Encore Night continued with a new film which Quentin described as one of his favorite exploitaiton movies ever. He was looking through Tim’s list of prints last night and freaked out when he saw the title and when he called Tim up this afternoon and said he wanted to show it, Tim just started laughing. Qhen QT mentioned that it would make a great double feature with Hot Summer in the City, Tim got serious and said you couldn’t do it. It would just be too wrong. Either the screen would ignite into flames or God would just have enough with us and push the “Smite” button on his keyboard. QT then goes into an impersonation of a foul-mouthed ghetto-slang God stomping his foot down on poor little Alamo Drafthouse Downtown… at the time i thought “God wouldn’t really be that bad” but after seeing this movie and imagining seeing it together with Hot Summer in the City, I have changed my mind. I DO think God would get that upset and start swearing and mashing us down into hell with his white sneaker.
What’s funny about the movie is it stars William Sanderson, who has been in tons of stuff, usually as a dimwit thanks to his unique voice. He was in Blade Runner as the toymaker and the Bob Newhart show as Larry (with the brother Darryl and the other brother Darryl) and is now on Deadwood now as E.B. Farnham, the hotel owner. According to QT, anyone who knows this guy will forever now know him only as Jessie Lee Kane from this movie. His performance as a cracker southern hillbilly psycho nutcase will burn into your brain and make you forever associate him with this role.
“You can make a movie as incendiary as Fight for Your Life,” Quentin tells us all, “but you can never make a movie MORE incendiary than Fight For Your Life.” Quentin also mentioned that this movie first had the title “The Fighting Family,” but then it was “Fight for Your Life,” but when he finally got to see it in NY it was “Staying Alive.” Incidentally, IMDb has seven titles associated with this movie, including “I Hate Your Guts”, “Getting Even”, and “Blood Bath at 1313 Fury Road.” The Isely Brothers-esque theme song that plays in the beginning and end of the flick has the words “fight for your life” in it though so… you know.
The actual movie is about a black family (the patriarch being a deacon at his church, very soft-spoken and decent) being terrorized by a group of escaped convicts. Sanderson is the leader of said escaped group, taking great pains to include EVERY reacial slur in the KKK lexicon of “words that make black people angry.” He doesn’t limit himself to the family that he’s terrifying though. See, he has a gun and his buddies only have knives so he gets to call his latino buddy a spic and his “oriental” buddy a chink an awful lot too. Both the spic and the chink are pretty funny though. one’s like obsessed with his poor upbringing and the other is a total perv who they have to hide the family dog from for some reason. It’s really Sanderson though who takes the cake. He points a gun at the back of a baby’s head after killing its papa, beats the deacon out of conscioussness with his bible, yelling “turn the other cheek!” and he rapes the virgin daughter then lets the other two have goes while the dad’s still knocked out.
The pervy oriental also beats this little kid to death with a rock. It’s really pretty brutal and totally uncalled for. I really think the FBI needs to investigate anyone who owns a copy of this movie.
It’s ultimately rewarding though when the family finally turns the tables on Sanderson and his crazy-ass buddies. The once peacable happy family becomes completely vicious and vindictive, shooting one guy in the crotch and really exacting some revenge on the other two.
I think it might be wrong for me as a person to say i really liked this movie, but I have to say it’s the kind of movie that you don’t tend to forget. Surprisingly (to me at least) there were lots of people there who’d seen it before, many times before actually. It’s just a reminder for me that i am a real lightweight when it comes to exploitation film.
Oh, also. Quentin said that the last movie of the night would be Johnny Firecloud, which he hasn’t seen so that would get to be his little festival, watching a movie he hasn’t seen with us.
classic stuff. i love those old qt film fest reports. ive saved all of them on a disk.
All this talk about FFYL, Im gonna sit down and watch it again tonight.
So where would you place Blacula?
blacula is blaxploitation-horror
Those film fest reports were how I found this site, if I remember correctly
[quote=“moviemike”]Oh, also. Quentin said that the last movie of the night would be Johnny Firecloud, which he hasn’t seen so that would get to be his little festival, watching a movie he hasn’t seen with us.
[/quote]Man, Johnny Firecloud! I haven’t thought about that flick in AGES. I have that around here somewhere, I’m tempted to go track it down ;D Not the greatest flick ever, but I remember I first saw Godmonster of Indian Flats along with it for the first time.
Sorry to go offtopic, Firecloud just caught me off guard ;D
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Pants: True, its definitely in the same family as Last House, House on The Edge of the Park and those kinds of flicks.
Theres a very fine line there. Exploiting Racial hatred towards black people in movies (shocksploitation) isnt the same as Black empowered crime/action/revenge/horror genre movies (blaxploitation).
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And yet, in FFYL, the crime is taking the blacks as hostages, not to mention the rape and murder, and there’s revenge at the end. And the theme song actually has “fight for your life” in the title… and of course, the black people in the film are revolting against their oppressors… not specifically just The Man…
But at least we can agree that it’s an exploitation film, if not a blaxploitation film, and a home invasion movie, which, well, duh…
Its okay if you consider it a blaxploitation film. Its just when I sit and watch it I dont see it as a blaxploiter.
I love the trailer for Johnny Firecloud. Its one of my fave exploitation film trailers.
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blacula is blaxploitation-horror
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Well now, correct me if I’m wrong, because it’s been a long time since I saw Blacula. Is he directly going against the man in that movie, or is it just the fact that it’s a black man playing Dracula, as it were?
I havent watched it in a few years myself, so I cant remember if he goes up against The Man. I think its pretty much just a black vampire exploitation film.
I don’t remember it being a confrontation against the man in Blacula either, and yet it’s universally known as one of the great blaxploitation horror films.
Hey, when you watch FFYL tonight, if you have the Blue Underground disc, watch the “Black” trailer for it.
It was good talking to you today, I’m gonna jet. TTYL!
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I think in FFYL, the shocking racism aspect is what drives the film, it is made as a potboiler so by the end everyone is going nuts when Jessie Lee and the others get their deserved comeuppance. It brings everyone together. It differs from Blaxploitation films where you know youre going to see the title character as the main focus doing diff things to move the film forward.
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Thats what FFYL does, they make you feel sorry for the family and you want Kane and the other convicts to get what they deserve. They really push the audience to see how far they can take it then when you see the ending you want to get up and cheer, its a great formula.
“The pervy oriental also beats this little kid to death with a rock. It’s really pretty brutal and totally uncalled for. I really think the FBI needs to investigate anyone who owns a copy of this movie.” Now thats just mean.
Mike:Where did get that bit about QT6 at?
It’s from a review blog I happened upon.
http://mymovie.medialife.org/
Mike: On Blacula, it doesnt have to be about him fighting the man specifically, but it still is about the black man as the powerful individual. Its a black empowerment film at its core.
I sat down and watched Fight For Your Life again last night. I pushed play and the film started with that funky Fight For Your life theme. Somehow I forgot about it. I STILL dont consider it a Blaxploitation film. Its all about the characters. If it was a real Blaxploitation film, there would be one main character being the one in charge. A nice black family being held hostage by a racist and then fighting back when they get a chance doesnt make it from that genre. I still say its a shocksploitation flick overall. Even on the commentary track, the guys never once said it was a Blaxploitation film. They just said it was an exploitative hostage film in the tradition of Desperate Hours.