even bad movies can be entertaining as “hell” 
i hope my dvd is in the mail next week…
Why would you call something bad if you actually like it? Theres only two kinds of movies to me, the ones i like and the ones i dont. Take a huge mega budget blockbuster with the big marketing campaigns etc …what if I hate it? That $$ and that label doesnt mean jack to me. Its a bad movie. What if you love Hell Ride? A movie made on a low budget thats been pretty much ignored by Hollywood? What exactly makes it “bad”? I never get that kind of thinking when it comes to movies.
Easy Rider isnt a biker gang flick. Its about two drug dealers traveling across the country on bikes. Its more of an existential counter culture film. Its one of my Top 10 favorite films, but its def not the same kind of movie as say, The Wild Angels. Hell Ride is a biker gang-action-crime flick more along those lines. If it delivers the goods for that kind of movie Ill be satisfied.
Has anyone ever seen Stone Cold or Beyond The Law (also with Michael Madsen)? Those are entertaining modern biker flicks.
Im a huge fan of Biker movies so Hell Ride will have to be completely dull for me not to like it.
I dont even get what the big deal about this movie is. I mean why this ultra high expectation factor? Its not like you should be expecting some all time masterpiece. Just watch the movie, and see if you enjoy it. What else do you want from it? Or any movie in general?
When they say it’s gonna be a bad movie they don’t refer to the budget because that don’t mean shit, but they refer to the global opinion (which is meant to be objective) about it…but that don’t mean shit either imo. The fact that thousands of idiots did’t like a movie doesn’t mean its bad and it goes the other way to.
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When they say it’s gonna be a bad movie they don’t refer to the budget because that don’t mean shit, but they refer to the global opinion (which is meant to be objective) about it…but that don’t mean shit either imo. The fact that thousands of idiots did’t like a movie doesn’t mean its bad and it goes the other way to.
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Perfectly stated sir!
I saw it last weekend. There were about 6 people in the audience and 2 of them were bikers, :-</E> (seriously). It wasn’t bad but it certainly wasn’t an A movie more like a B- or C+. There were so many QT “actors” in it it was like watching a QT movie even that red head stripper from Kill Bill 2 was in it. And they named one of the bikes trigger…
that was Laura Cayouette, she’s the one who introduced Larry Bishop and QT
I’m in love already. ;D
That dress is just hanging off her ;D
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I’m in love already. ;D
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Seconded.
holy shizznit. that’s not a dress, that’s like she stepped out of the shower and her hot ass got stuck in the curtain of a 5 by 5 inches bathroom window…
is that really laura?
It does look more like a curtain than a dress. Pretty crazy.
Ive heard her name come up here and there, who is she? An actress?
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I wish this was an animated *.gif :’(
Imagine this “dress” in motion, must definitely be something!
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It seems she’s only had secondary roles she’s been in a lot of TV series. 2 times on Friends apparently, but there must be a problem here, because she’s credited in “The one with Unagi”, one of my fav episodes, but I’ve watched it for Ross’ screams, not for the hottie featured in it…
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It does look more like a curtain than a dress. Pretty crazy.
Ive heard her name come up here and there, who is she? An actress?
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She was Rocket in Volume 2, the one who tells Budd to clean up the toilet. I don’t think that’s her in the pic though. Laura looks much older.
compared to:
EDIT: actually, they do look similar
The bottom line is they’re both hot
(what’s the thing around her neck though? it looks like a mix between a dead racoon and some kind of crawling bug, that’s so disgusting it almost ruins the picture -and that’s saying a lot-)
Edit: I think it’s definetly not the same person, here’s Laura Cayouette in Hell Ride :
Shoe doesn’t look like Rocket at all.
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There are some pics were she looks like rocket here though…weird
She looks alot hotter/ younger in the first curtain dress.
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When they say it’s gonna be a bad movie they don’t refer to the budget because that don’t mean shit, but they refer to the global opinion (which is meant to be objective) about it…but that don’t mean shit either imo. The fact that thousands of idiots did’t like a movie doesn’t mean its bad and it goes the other way to.
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True. But depends on what you mean objective opinion. I don’t go by what my friends say, but I will go by what the reviews (RT) say. Generally, the greater percentage of reviews (RT) are similar to my view on films. Not always of course, as a love for a film is subjective. I have a pet love for the Resident Evil films which all got terrible reviews. Same for Lost Boys: The Tribe. But prior to seeing the film , I won’t judge, but if nearly all the reviews are looking bad, and it isn’t a film I’m massively hyped for, I’m not bothered too really go and see it till DVD.
An objective opinion is an opinion based on facts, objectively, a film can be bad but you, subjectively, might love it and vice versa. Here are some examples of objective criticism : plot sucked ass, the supposedly funny lines are so terrible it almost make the audience cry, the movie itself is an excuse to use CGI whenever it can, it has a ridiculous ending, it doesn’t answer the question “Why do monkeys hate communists ?” etc. By now you should be picturing Indiana Jones 4, which got 77% or so on RT.
Although it really felt like I was giving my opinion about the movie, I dare you to contradict me on those points because these are facts.
I’ve been finding myself saying “I didn’t expect it to be that good” so much times that I don’t care about reviews anymore. (it also worked the other way “Christ that was so bad ! What was the journalist on when he wrote that review ?”).
On a more serious note, I’ll say Ify listed what I see as objective criterias in another topic which were
- General direction
- camera movement
- acting
- dialogue
- use of music
- story telling
- cinematography
- visuals
- coolness
- rewatchability
And I’ll add “does the movie successfully shows what it aimed to show ?”, that pretty much sums all the criterias above… but I wish I could explain this in french because I’m really searching my words here.
I’m not a big fan of reviews as I hinted before and I don’t read them a lot, but I think that’s what every movie review I read was based on.
I think the whole objectivity thing is more like a disguise for the reviewer to say whathe thought about the movie he’s reviewing.
Afterall, cinema is an art and even if you can talk objectively about a piece of art, at some point, your opinion gets in the way.
well lots of makeup and whatever… lighting… might look different in different pictures. both hot though, agreed
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An objective opinion is an opinion based on facts, objectively, a film can be bad but you, subjectively, might love it and vice versa. Here are some examples of objective criticism : plot sucked ass, the supposedly funny lines are so terrible it almost make the audience cry, the movie itself is an excuse to use CGI whenever it can, it has a ridiculous ending, it doesn’t answer the question “Why do monkeys hate communists ?” etc. By now you should be picturing Indiana Jones 4, which got 77% or so on RT.
Although it really felt like I was giving my opinion about the movie, I dare you to contradict me on those points because these are facts.
I’ve been finding myself saying “I didn’t expect it to be that good” so much times that I don’t care about reviews anymore. (it also worked the other way “Christ that was so bad ! What was the journalist on when he wrote that review ?”).
On a more serious note, I’ll say Ify listed what I see as objective criterias in another topic which were
- General direction
- camera movement
- acting
- dialogue
- use of music
- story telling
- cinematography
- visuals
- coolness
- rewatchability
And I’ll add “does the movie successfully shows what it aimed to show ?”, that pretty much sums all the criterias above… but I wish I could explain this in french because I’m really searching my words here.
I’m not a big fan of reviews as I hinted before and I don’t read them a lot, but I think that’s what every movie review I read was based on.
I think the whole objectivity thing is more like a disguise for the reviewer to say whathe thought about the movie he’s reviewing.
Afterall, cinema is an art and even if you can talk objectively about a piece of art, at some point, your opinion gets in the way.
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I get what you are saying. But maybe I was being loose using the term objective. I just think what I said, typically the majority of reviews are right. Not always, as sometimes films I like contradict them, Indy 4 like you stated being one of them. However as they are generally right, I’l generally trust the majority of them.
For any and all interested here is a complete track list for Hell Ride. Already sent this list on to Sebastian.
Original Score - Danielle Luppi
Bride & BB Hug - Robert Rodriguez From Kill Bill Volume 2
Victorville Blues - Sounds Of Harley Feat. Davie Allan
The Wild Angels Ballad (Dirge) - Davie Allan And The Arrows From The Wild Angels
Jenny Take A Ride - Mitch Ryder And The Detroit Wheels
Blacklisted - Neko Case
Elle Gets Her Money - Robert Rodriguez From Kill Bill Volume 2
The Devil’s Rumble - The Arrows From The Devil’s Angels
Hell’s Belles - Les Baxter And Lenny Adelson From Hell’s Belles
Travelin’ Man - Les Baxter And Lenny Adelson From Hell’s Belles
Hogin’ Machine - Les Baxter From Hell’s Belles
The Unknown Rider - Davie Allan And The Arrows From The Wild Angels
Maria’s Theme - Barbara Kelly And The Morning Good From The Savage Seven
Love And Admiration Of The Brotherhood Society - The Total Sound Explosion Orchestra Feat. Dean Delray
Maggot Brain - Funkadelic
She’s So Far Out She’s In - Dino, Desi And Billy
Alacran Y Pistolero - Chingon
The Unconcious Power - Iron Butterfly
Hot Wind - Les Baxter From Hell’s Belles
Indian Run - Spindrift
Mudpies And Gasoline - Patricia Venne
The Long Hell Ride - Sounds Of Harley Feat. Davie Allan