[quote=“Johny_Exhale”]
yeah, the correct term is ‘post-noir’ actually, thats what you call modern film noir
The Man who wasnt there, LA Confidential, Usual Suspects, Memento, Insomnia etc.
all have the noir feeling to it
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I think Neo Noir would be a better term. I have only seen This Gun for Hire but I have alot more movies.
If we’re talking Neo-Noir, you guys should definetely check out “Bound” by the Wachowsky-Brothers. This was their first film, before anyone could even spell “Matrix”, and it’s a suspenseful, hillarious dark gangster-thriller with black humour in it. It’s about a lesbian couple (Jennifer Tilly and Gina Gershon) who take on the mafia to relieve them of a few millon dollars. There is enough violence and plot-twists to keep you entertained, slick visuals (very stylish red, black and white colors, awesome camera-work) and a good share of, erm . . . love. :-[ ;D
There is also a japanese manga-series called “Noir” a.k.a. “Nowâru”. I haven’t seen it yet, just watched a few episodes on televisions, and it seemed to be indeed very high-quality stuff. Sadly the DVDs are still very expensive, so I have to wait until a cheaper box-set comes out. The story is about a femal assassin named Mireiyu Buke who receives a letter from a girl, who has no memory of her past, but is an effect killing-machine, nevertheless. The setting is in Paris, and while both girls try to uncover the mystery, there’s also somebody out there in the shadows, trying to kill them. Animations are very fluid (though not on par with those in “Cowboy Bebop”), but no static Pokemon-crap. Great, hypnotic music in there, too.
I think, you guys already mentioned “L.A. Confidential”. One of my favorite Film Noir, everything in there to get you spellbound: Corrupt Cops, Intrigue, Dark Visuals, Violence, Mysterious Women.
What I still wait for, is a movie based on that awesome computer-game “Max Payne”, one of the first games ever to deliver a well-developed story with characters you care for. Would be great stuff for a film-noir, and the Matrix-shootout-stuff would fit in there too. I’d cast Chow yun-Fat, but since Max Payne is an american Anti-Hero, Nicholas Cage would be just as fine.
I adore the Maltease Falcoln.
[quote=“MiaRose”]
I adore the Maltease Falcoln.
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The Maltese Falcon?
how come Requium for a Dream and Mullholland drive arent considered Film Noir?
[quote=“Johny_Exhale”]
The Maltese Falcon?
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fuck me i need to learn how to spell.
Yes, Yes you must!
I don’t know about Sunset Blvd. being considred a film noir, its much more of a drama to me than a noir… some of the IMDb list is loosely film noir but on a category as such there are many I’d leave out.
Some Reg. 1 Film Noirs to pickup on DVD -
Fox:
- Laura
they also have on film noir series (though not really film noir to me): Panic in the Streets, Call Northside 777
Criterion:
- Night and the City
- Pickup on South Street
- Thieves’ Highway
- Bob le Flambeur - french film noir from Jean-Pierre Melville
- Rififi - another french considered film noir, though by outcast US director
MGM:
- Kiss Me Deadly
Warner Bros. Film Noir Boxset 1:
- The Asphalt Jungle
- Gun Crazy
- Murder My Sweet
- Out of the Past
- The Set-Up (not really film noir to me)
Universal:
- The Big Clock
- Black Angel
- Criss Cross
- This Gun For Hire
upcoming Reg. 1 DVD releases:
The Film Noir Classic Collection, Volume Two on 7/5 (SRP $49.92)
- Robert Wise’s Born to Kill (1947)
- Fritz Lang’s Clash by Night (1952)
- Edward Dmytryk’s Crossfire (1947)
- Max Nosseck’s Dillinger (1945)
- Richard Fleischer’s The Narrow Margin
Fox Film Noir Series #2 (June):
- House of Bamboo
- Kiss of Death
- Nightmare Alley
Reg. 2 PAL DVD Releases of note:
BFI
- Fallen Angel - Otto Preminger
- Le Doulos - Jean-Pierre Melville french film noir - one of the best movies ever, well worth seeking out for fans of noir
- Where the Sidewalk Ends - Otto Preminger
- Whirlpool - Otto Preminger
“Chinatown” has only been mentioned once, it is the best film-noir I’ve seen and also one of my favourite films ever.
I LOVE Chinatown. she’s my sister/daughter/sister/daughter ah great movie.
[quote=“MiaRose”] she’s my sister/daughter/sister/daughter.
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That bit has to be one of the funniest moments in cinema in my opinion. ;D
I agree. What really annoys me is when people don’t get it…how slow ppl can be! think about it, she’s her sister AND he daughter grrrrrrrr
Didn’t the term Film Noir come about when American crime/detective films of the 1940s began to be shown in France after the liberation? French critics noticed that they had a dark almost pessimistic mood and they coined them Film Noirs. There is a debate which continues to this day, is Film Noir a genre or a style?
The Big Sleep directed by Howard Hawks and starring Humphrey Bogart is a great Film Noir. Humourous (dark/almost pessimistic?) and sexy with it, watch the bookstore scene.
Yeah the debate is still going on. I guess it just depends on your own opinion, whether you believe film noir is a genre or a movement restricted to a certain decade. I personally believe film noir is a genre, and many film noir films are still being made today.
I would say it can be both depending on the film.
What do you mean?
[quote=“MiaRose”]
Yeah the debate is still going on. I guess it just depends on your own opinion, whether you believe film noir is a genre or a movement restricted to a certain decade. I personally believe film noir is a genre, and many film noir films are still being made today.
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exactly
film noirs arent made anymore but alot of films are definitly inspired by them and have that same feeling to it
[quote=“MiaRose”]
What do you mean?
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I think that the earlier ones can be considered like a full on film noir, the ones from the 40’s and 50’s, whereas there are other films which are more drama’s but have a film noir feel to them.