Mines on 10:30 in the fuck morning, and I slept till 1:30. So yeah…my station sucks, who would play E@R 10:30 in the morning? Too fucking early damnit! I’m on C.P. time, bitch
I just saw it too, it comes on at 11:00 pm sunday nights overhere…but anyways, i dont think i can express in words how fucking excited I am about this movie, it looks better than I couldve imagined…Carradine with a oscar worthy performance!!! Did anyone else notice that it was the only movie they reviewed on the show that got two thumbs up (big thumbs up at that). All the other ones got two thumbs down except for “the United states of Lieland” or whatever which Ebert & Roper split on.
Dammit I missed it too.
But definitely keep an eye (actually an ear) out for the update tomorrow when they post the audio clips of the review.
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I’m glad they loved it. Although I suspect that if Roeper or Ebert gave it a less than steller review you people would slaughter them.
I hate to be all negative up in this mug, but you guys are all “yay, it got good reviews, im excited, this movie is going to be good, its award worthy, yippee!”…well you guys are kind of contradicting yourselves. If it got thumbs down and if it got bad reviews, you guys would jump the gun and say “fuck the reviewers, they dont matter, who cares about awards/critics anyway! They suck! Awards and reviews are stupid!!”
Get my drift here
I caught it. The scenes I saw and the reviews they gave are making me die with anticipation.
This is going to kick ass, I cannot wait.
If anything, the good reviews make the nerve-racking anicipation worse… shrugs
Definitely right there DNS, but that would just a natural reaction from KB fans.
It’s just fucking great that E&R loved it, not that it would have mattered to me if they didnt.
[quote]I If it got thumbs down and if it got bad reviews, you guys would jump the gun and say “fuck the reviewers, they dont matter, who cares about awards/critics anyway! They suck! Awards and reviews are stupid!!” ÂÂ
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Leave that reaction to the Matrix fans.
Joe Banana:
I’m pretty sure QTs Pai Mei IS the same character from the Shaw Bros films, he just took that character like he took Hattori Hanzo from Kage No Gundan. In QTS Movie Movie Universe, characters from other movies can appear.
In Volume 2, Bill even tells the story of Pai Mei and that story is pretty much based on Executioners of Shaolin and the real story of the actual traitor monk Pai Mei who helped the Ching Dynasty burn the Shaolin temple down.
As far as Ebert n Roeper loving the film, I knew they would love it before I even watched the show. Ebert loves QTs films and Roeper loved Volume 1. They GOT IT. Its cool.
Most critics loved Volume 1 as well, as they should have. It was a masterpiece. Roeper even stated he felt Kill Bill as one film SHOULD be in the Oscar race in 2004. I think I can safely say we all agree with that one.
It’s great to read all these posts about a review which unfortunately, I did not get to see (I was in the middle of a family crisis that needed taken care of). I am of the opinion, that I normally do not watch reviews because sometimes the reviewer has different tastes in movies than I. What I might like the critic may not, and that’s okay. I can’t tell the critic that they are wrong because they are not me, and I am not them. We are going to have tastes that are different, and that’s what makes life interesing. Diversity. If we were all the same, it would be boring.
For those who rely heavily on movie critics, this will be a plus for QT and for Kill Bill. Perhaps more people will see Volume II. Maybe even ones who have not seen Volume I yet will see this one. And once they see Vol II, they will have to check out Vol I just to get the whole story. What will be telling will be the numbers at the Box Office. In just 11 days we will know.
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This transcript, written in painstaking effort and detail by myself, is of their review for those who have missed it. Enjoy.
E: Tarantino at the top of his form, and Uma Thurman like a force of nature in a film that I think is even better than Volume 1. It opens in 2 weeks, and we’ve got an early review. She plays a trained assassin, still seeking vengeance for Bill’s massacre at the wedding chapel. In Volume one she got even with several of the assassins, and now she is working her way towards the big target, Bill. In a flashback we see her train with the great master, Pai Mei.
CLIP of training sequence
That’s Gordon Liu as the ancient warrior, and it’s uncanny the way Tarantino combines weirdness with action and humor.
Clip of Gordon Liu showing tough love to Uma
Tarantino has a lot of dialogue in this movie and it’s always kinda facinating. Listen to this conversation with her former lover Bill, played by David Carradine, and Bill’s brother Budd, played by Michael Madsen.
Clip of Bill conversing with Budd "(laughing) Well maybe you just kinda bring that out in people"
What Uma Thurman’s character goes through is almost beyond belief. In one terrifying scene she is buried alive. There is a flashback explaining the wedding massacre that left her in a coma for four years, and there’s a perfectly written scene where she tries to talk an assassin out of killing her. Tarantino is one of the great original talents in modern movies, and Kill Bill Volume 2 is not a sequal, but simply the rest of the story, bizarre and funny and violent in a cartoon sort of way, and brilliant. Thumbs way up.
R: I agree completely…
E: Oh yea.
R: …this was thrilling cinema. Volume 1 was all about the kung fu action and the cartoon violence, it was a bloody good time, but it really was just half a movie. Now the second half is such a visionary work that it actually enhances ones appreciation for Volume 1. This is a beautiful, twisted, complex martial arts soap opera.
Clip of Madsen holding a sword, talking on the p…hone with Elle. "And I’m here to tell you Elle… that’s what I call sharp."
Now we knew we’d get more great fight sequences in Volume 2, but it’s also filled with that black humor, and some really emotional development. Uma Thurman’s action hero becomes this fully realized complex woman, and David Carradine, as you mentioned, he is so good that I think he should get Best Supporting Actor consideration for his work. This guy somehow becomes a human snake.
E: He is wonderful in this film, and of course one of the things Tarantino also did in Pulp Fiction, was to have people explain things, and some of the worst things that happen only happen in your mind as they talk about them. For example, Michael Madsen giving Uma Thurman the choice between the flashlight and the mace, “flashlight or the mace”, and in either case she’s gonna’ be six feet under in a coffin, buried alive…
R: Yea, there about three or four confrontations like that.
E: …he explained it very patiently to her, and I love, I love his dialogue, it’s hypnotically interesting.
R: And I think we really do have to consider Kill Bill as a complete work, I mean we both liked the first one… volume, if you will, but if you put these two together, and I’m sure we will on DVD’s, and people will be doing the double features, it’s a great film.
E: It is.
R: It would be, I guess, 3 hours at that point, and to me it would be an academy award contendor. The question is, how do you honor Volume 2 when Volume 1 was from last year. All I can tell people is that even if you haven’t seen the first one this is a great film. I think if you’ve see the first one, it feels even better.
E: Yea, you don’t have to see the first one to go walk into Volume 2, it’s complete as it is. And you know, I didn’t put Kill Bill on my best ten list last year, but Volume 2 is going on my best ten list this year. This is a remarkable movie, and Tarantino is… really, you know, he’s exciting, when he makes a new movie, I look forward to it.
R: I just don’t want him to wait seven years to make another one. And you mentioned too the writing here, the dialogue, you know there was this thing about Quentin Tarantino, where people started ripping him off and paying tribute to him with their own screenplays, and it was all about dropping in pop-culture references, but his writing is so much stronger than that, and we have several scenes like that in this film.
Awesome! Thanks Banana. Wish I couldv’e seen it.
Thank you Joe. I hope I gonna see the E&R show as a video file on internet, but this is great too, thanks.
Yeah, thats what I wanted to hear. Great dialoges, brilliant actors (especially David Carradine), even better than Vol. 1 and a full complete and own film you can watch without knowledge of Vol. 1. I’ve seen Vol. 1 and I love it, but I hoped very much that Vol. 2 will be his own and complete film, and not just a part of something. Cause Vol. 1 is his own motion picture and Vol. 2 too. It was good splitting Kill Bill in two movies. So you can make double features and with the surprising end of Vol. 1 you have an exciting climax.
Tarantino = GOD!
[quote]E: Yea, you don’t have to see the first one to go walk into Volume 2, it’s complete as it is.[/quote]
:o That is damn surprising to hear. I thought Volume II would’ve most definitely required the viewing of Volume I to understand.
This is like watching Empire Strikes Back or The Two Towers without watching the first films.
[quote] This is like watching Empire Strikes Back or The Two Towers without watching the first films.[/quote]
I think both films can be enjoyed without seeing the other. Volume 1 is only half the story and we enjoyed that right? Same thing goes for Volume 2.
I was also just thinking how fun it will be when we have both films on DVD to watch. We can watch the chapters in the order they actually took place in the Brides life. Cool!
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:o That is damn surprising to hear. I thought Volume II would’ve most definitely required the viewing of Volume I to understand.
This is like watching Empire Strikes Back or The Two Towers without watching the first films.[/quote]
I don’t think it’d be like that at all. What happens in Volume 1’ll be talked about in 2, especially when it features the events leading up to the opening scene, i.e. the massacre. When you have a first movie that doesn’t feature much in the way of plot, going into the next movie wouldn’t be that hard
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I think both films can be enjoyed without seeing the other. Volume 1 is only half the story and we enjoyed that right? Same thing goes for Volume 2.
I was also just thinking how fun it will be when we have both films on DVD to watch. We can watch the chapters in the order they actually took place in the Brides life. Cool!
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Yeh that’d be interesting. I did a similar thing with Memento, and it became a completely different film.
Edit: Oh and the E&R review was great. I would’ve been worried if it had gotten thumbs down from one of them…
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Edit: Oh and the E&R review was great. I would’ve been worried if it had gotten thumbs down from one of them…[/quote]
Why would you be worried? What difference does it make?
Calm down dude. Ebert and Roeper basically give two thumbs up to every semi-decent movie, so if either of them disliked Volume 2 it would have been a travesty and would have made many fans curious.