[quote=“dutchsouthern”]
You guys take things way too seriously. I quoted someone. I was then asked to explain the quote and I did (twice). It’s not my quote. I may agree with it but I could care less who is a true fan or isn’t (whatever that means) or whether or not everyone hates or loves “Marnie”. I really don’t give a shit and I can’t understand why Scarface or the trendy dude who quotes Vonnegut care so deeply about such a meaningless thing like who is a true fan or not or whether or not everybody thinks they are a true fan or not. Who cares? You are all “true fans”. You are the “biggest fans ever”. Now you can go back to pretending to read “Breakfast of Champions”.
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I don’t give a rat’s ass about any of this shit - I just think you’re a douche-bag. And I don’t pretend to read anything - you fucking fink.
[quote=“Kilgore Trout”]
I don’t pretend to read anything
[/quote] That’s my new favorite quote. Brilliant dude. Really. I’m laughing so hard right now.
[quote=“Bone Daddy”]
He meant if you can tolerate so-so Hitchcock, you are a true fan!
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Haha, you have been completely exposed. You don’t know shit all about this. Please don’t be so patronising to others, especially when you yourself have no knowledge in the matter. I laughed so hard when I read this.
Furthermore, you have yet to gain anyone’s respect given you haven’t said anything remotely intelligent since signing up.
[quote=“Ify”]
Haha, you have been completely exposed. You don’t know shit all about this. Please don’t be so patronising to others, especially when you yourself have no knowledge in the matter. I laughed so hard when I read this.
Furthermore, you have yet to gain anyone’s respect given you haven’t said anything remotely intelligent since signing up.
[/quote]Why are you beating up on Bone Daddy? I thought he made some good points.
[quote=“dutchsouthern”]
Dude, go kick Bogdanovich’s ass. It’s his quote. What do you care anyway? You need to lighten up. Also, I never said anyone liking Tarantino’s films is a “blind follower”. I said that anyone going by what he says as the gospel truth just because he makes great films is a blind follower. But even if I had said that what do you care? You really need to stop taking things so seriously. For fuck’s sake, this thread is about whether or not De Palma (there’s a space there by the way) or Hitchcock is the better filmmaker. The whole purpose of this thread was to start a debate. So for you to be getting so bent out of shape is very sad.
[/quote] Don’t take these cock-wranglers seriously, dude! They follow newbs from thread to thread harassing them, 'cause apparently they think they can get away with it. I guess it’s one of the perks of seniority on these forums. If you really read what they say, you come to the quick conclusion that they have nothing to say, so they mask their ineptitude with schoolyard gang tactics. Have you heard any of them make any more than a laughable case for De(space)Palma! How in the F*** would films like Carrie, Scarface, MI, The Untouchables, and Phantom of the Paradise possibly be inspired by Hitchcock! The fact of the matter is that De Palma only made a small handful of films that remotely resemble a Hitchcock flick(something these gerbil slammers will not admit to!) and went on to be another Hollywood brownnoser. The only reason these clowns are even keeping up a debate about the subject, is that they have nowhere else to post, where anyone will give them credence. Your game is getting pretty played out guys. Why don’t you move on to the next one registering up!
[quote=“dutchsouthern”]
However, without Hitchcock’s filmography De Palma wouldn’t have made 3/4th’s of the films he’s famous for. He’d still be making meandering anti-social character studies like “Hi, Mom!”, “Greetings”, and “The Wedding Party”. I’d put Hitchcock’s worst against those any day of the week.
Hitchcock was a complete original. His success was not dependent on De Palma. However, De Palma’s success was almost completely dependent on Hitch…
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[quote=“Bone Daddy”]
De(space)Palma! How in the F*** would films like Carrie, Scarface, MI, The Untouchables, and Phantom of the Paradise possibly be inspired by Hitchcock! The fact of the matter is that De Palma only made a small handful of films that remotely resemble a Hitchcock flick(something these gerbil slammers will not admit to!) and went on to be another Hollywood brownnoser. [/quote]
Hahahaha. Oh my god this shit is hilarious. Dutch and Bonedaddy, here's a hint. If you want to continue blowing each other, the least you can do is agreeing on the crucial points of your pathetic arguments if you want to be taken seriously.
[quote=“Bone Daddy”]
Don’t take these cock-wranglers seriously, dude! They follow newbs from thread to thread harassing them, 'cause apparently they think they can get away with it. I guess it’s one of the perks of seniority on these forums. If you really read what they say, you come to the quick conclusion that they have nothing to say, so they mask their ineptitude with schoolyard gang tactics. Have you heard any of them make any more than a laughable case for De(space)Palma! How in the F*** would films like Carrie, Scarface, MI, The Untouchables, and Phantom of the Paradise possibly be inspired by Hitchcock! The fact of the matter is that De Palma only made a small handful of films that remotely resemble a Hitchcock flick(something these gerbil slammers will not admit to!) and went on to be another Hollywood brownnoser. The only reason these clowns are even keeping up a debate about the subject, is that they have nowhere else to post, where anyone will give them credence. Your game is getting pretty played out guys. Why don’t you move on to the next one registering up!
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You don’t know what you are talking about. De Palma has mastered the art of cinema. He makes art and tells stories in a way that could not be done in any other medium. He has mastered the visual aspect of cinema. He makes films that aren’t necessarily in reality. They can only exist in the cinema. The way he tells stories could only exist in the cinema. He understands profoundly the power of cinema and the possibilities of the medium. Sure, Hitchcock was the same. But they are different directors. They are both masters. De Palma’s style was very much influenced by Hitchcock’s work, but he was able to move away from being merely a Hitchcock copycat. He understands what is needed to create the desired effect.
Hahahaha. Oh my god this shit is hilarious. Dutch and Bonedaddy, here’s a hint. If you want to continue blowing each other, the least you can do is agreeing on the crucial points of your pathetic arguments if you want to be taken seriously.
[/quote]Why do we have to agree? What’s the deal with this forum and people “teaming up”. It’s ridiculous. And what’s with you and your frat buddies obsession with my dick? Every time I post something you and one of your cohorts talk about my dick or sucking my dick or something very gay. If you’re gay that’s fine. I have no problem with that. I have nothing against gays but I’m not and would appreciate it if you and your homosexual pack would stop talking about my enormous dick so much.
Also, still waiting for your point. Talking about cock all day doesn’t answer the “De Palma or Hitchcock” debate. I thought you knew everything but I’m starting to think you don’t know ass.
[quote=“dutchsouthern”]
Why are you beating up on Bone Daddy? I thought he made some good points.
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Made some good points? He’s saying the exact opposite of what you posted. This is not about teaming up, this is about showing that some people don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.
And please, don’t go off topic with this gay bullshit. It’s a clear sign that you’re trying to deviate from the topic of discussion because everyone just realised you made a complete fool of yourself…
[quote=“Scarface”]
Made some good points? He’s saying the exact opposite of what you posted. This is not about teaming up, this is about showing that some people don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.
And please, don’t go off topic with this gay bullshit. It’s a clear sign that you’re trying to deviate from the topic of discussion because everyone just realised you made a complete fool of yourself…
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I made my point and actually backed it up. When have you shown that I don’t know what I’m talking about? You and your “brothers” just talk about my dick and jerking me off. How is that not getting off topic? Why are you so into my dick? Or is that your argument that De Palma is better than Hitchcock? My dick? Really? Because I fail to see the connection. I’m still waiting for you to get on topic and make a real point. I am starting to think you don’t know anything about any of the topics you respond to.
[quote=“dutchsouthern”]
I made my point and actually backed it up. When have you shown that I don’t know what I’m talking about? You and your “brothers” just talk about my dick and jerking me off. How is that not getting off topic? Why are you so into my dick? Or is that your argument that De Palma is better than Hitchcock? My dick? Really? Because I fail to see the connection. I’m still waiting for you to get on topic and make a real point. I am starting to think you don’t know anything about any of the topics you respond to.
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I just talk about your dick all the time? Look out QTA members, out of the three thousand posts I made I happened to write “blowing each other” in one of them. That makes me obsessed with dick, surely. Where the fuck are you from, retard school? And if you want to read my opinions about Hitch and De Palma see the first page of this topic. I was one of the first to actually contribute to the discussion and I don’t feel the need to repeat myself for the benefit of your lazy royal ass.
[quote=“Scarface”]
Personally it’s kind of difficult to pick a favorite between the two. In my eyes Hitch at his best (Vertigo in my case) blows away anything DePalma has ever done. On the other hand a Hitch misfire is something I would want to watch only once in my life. Marnie bores me to death. Family Plot bores me to death. DePalma’s got his fair share of good or even great movies, and even those movies which are considered DePalma failures I always find them enjoyable in some aspect or another. Raising Cain is quite mediocre IMO, but is it entertaining? Hell yes.
Another DePalma plus is that looking at his films he seems more versatile than Hitch and he often adds that spicy erotic touch to his films, which I always look forward to.
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This is your contribution? For real? This backs up your argument? Marnie bores you. You find Raising Cain entertaining. So much so that you added a “Hell yeah”. Great argument. Great examples. You have totally proven your point. No need for an explanation on why you prefer one film to another or why you find one film boring and another one entertaining. You really don’t know shit do you? If I was you I would stick to comments about my dick as well. At least I can sense some passion there.
[quote=“dutchsouthern”]
Why are you beating up on Bone Daddy? I thought he made some good points.
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That has to be the greatest PUN for masturbation EVER!
[quote=“dutchsouthern”]
This is your contribution? For real? This backs up your argument? Marnie bores you. You find Raising Cain entertaining. So much so that you added a “Hell yeah”. Great argument. Great examples. You have totally proven your point. No need for an explanation on why you prefer one film to another or why you find one film boring and another one entertaining. You really don’t know shit do you? If I was you I would stick to comments about my dick as well. At least I can sense some passion there.
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So my opinion doesn’t mean shit because I thought Marnie was boring? Yeah, right. Truth of the matter is that Marnie drags more slowly than a snail in a coma. I don’t usually mind slow paced movies, but this one demanded too much from the viewer. The movie could have very well been made into a short film without losing any of its essence. The plot wasn’t engaging enough for anyone to care. Half the film consisted of Tippi Hedren staring blankly into nothingness with Sean Connery beside her asking for sex. Which brings me to the other point, some of the dialogue in this one is really awful. There is actually a scene in the film where Connery says something like “But I want to go to bed Marnie. I very much want to go to bed.” It sounds like something Ed Wood would write. There are some nice directing touches throughout the film, like when the camera slowly zooms on the door from where the old man whom Marnie ripped off comes in. But that’s sadly not enough. This is one of those mediocre contributions. Is it a bad film? Not necessarily. But it deosn’t hold a candle to Vertigo, Rear Window and the other classics. That was the point I was making in the first place. If dutch or anybody thinks Marnie is as good as those, there’s nothing I can do about their moronic attitude.
And my opinion doesn’t really matter, does it? Because the movie has Freudian symbolism and that wins over any other argument (and I bet my ass little dutchsouthern isn’t even familiar with 10% of Freud’s work. But Bogdanovich said so, so he thinks so too.)
