BOXOFFICE: $22.2mill (1st Weekend,USA)

The Films Kill Bill
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[quote]Rekings may I ask where you got this information?

Im gonna look into it but since i only go to boxofficemojo.com I saw that Kill Bill Vol. 1 made just over 50 million. WHere did you hear the budget was 65 and not 55? Anyway even if the budget was 65, Vol. 1 will make up for it alone and Vol. 2 will be pure profit, and we’re talkin US alone



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I came across it in a couple of financial publications and i think on one of the newsweek websites or times magazine website. I also came across the $55 million. There must be some outside factor like advertising or something that shot it

to the 65 million that was reported in the ap…

Here is a link to the msnbc site that has it at 65 million too.



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Also it would interest you to know that Miramax sold the foreign distribution rights and will not benefit from international grosses.

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It doesnt matter to me what the box office take is at this point, the film is a hit both critically and financially as far as how much it took to make the film (55 million). Im going to see it a few more times before its gone from theaters too because I love the film.



I think Volume 2 will do just as good, hopefully even better. I cant wait to see it.



Oh yeah, I dont give a flying fuck what mainstream America likes to watch. I know what I like in a movie, and its not bad remakes and CGI heavy epics. :slight_smile:

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I thought 55 million was its ORIGINAL budget, but went up like 20 more million.



Either way, Kill Bill sure didn’t stay too high in the box office…its number 7 now…pretty bad. When the Matrix comes out you can basically say Kill Bill won’t even be in theatres in my opinion.

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I mean…fuck…“Good Boy!” made only 10 million less than Kill Bill this weekend. NOW THATS PUTHETIC.



Note: I’m not bashing Kill Bill, I love it… I wish more would see it cause I know they’d like it…most kids at my highschool I recommend it to, but they are like, “No, I’m seeing Texas Chainsaw Massacre.” Tools.

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It’s now made £3,700,000+ ($6,265,591) in the UK

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the original production budget was something less than 55 million. that’s about what it cost when all was said and done to make the two films.

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I,too, am shocked at how fast this seems to be falling down. Everyone I know who’s seen it has loved it and went back to watch VOL-1 again and again.

The only place on the net that I’ve seen the most negative reviews are the user comments at IMDB.com, however, KILL BILL VOL.1 currently stands at #92 on the all-time greatest movie lists over there. Go figure.

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I was at first really bothered by the fact that it had plunged so bad at the box office as well. However, I mentioned this to a friend who liked the movie just as much as I did (this sentence doesn’t really express just how much we liked it… we thought it was an amazing achievement and clearly one of the best movies of the year), and he mentioned something that has stuck with me and I agree with.



He said that he doesn’t mind that the movie isn’t doing well in the box office, and thinks that the drop/humble taking at the box office actually makes the movie better for him. Why? Because it makes Kill Bill something special. You can go to people ten years from now and say ‘Have you seen Kill Bill?’ When they say they haven’t, you can help them experience something that truely is special. Something that is not known by the majority of America like some shitty movie like Pirates of the Carribean. Kill Bill doesn’t have that mass appeal, which is why it is so special. It isn’t out to make as much money as possible. It’s out to be a work of art, and a ‘fun’ movie (although using the word ‘fun’ I think cheapens the experience.)



I bet Tarantino and the Wiensteins feel the same way.

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Maybe…and I’m say just maybe…Tarantino feels the same way, but I highly doubt the Weinstein’s feel its a better movie because it didn’t do spectacularly well at the box office. Those two are in the business to make money, not movies - thats Tarantino’s forte.



Either way, ten years from now, the box office numbers or current critical reviews aren’t going to make one bit of difference to you. A lot of cult classics as well as some of the greatest movies of all time received negative reviews and mediocre revenues, but that doesn’t impact how you or anyone else views them now. No one ever sits down and thinks, “boy, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas really didn’t do well at the box office” while watching it, nor do they allow it to alter their view of what they like.



The only people that truely and utterly care about box office records are Bruckheimer/Lucas/Whacowski fans.

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Fuck Bruckheimer

Fuck Michael Bay in his stupid dirty ass

Fuck Lucas in a his black empty heart



The Wachowskis, however, I have faith in.



Also, long live:

Bryan Singer

Christopher Nolan

Terry Gilliam

and, of course, Tarantino



You’re right, though. I take back what I said about the Weinsteins. However, I have a firm belief that Kill Bill will be nominated for an academy award or two (although they will be meaningless ones, like art direction, editing, or costume design, or soundtrack). Because of this, the Weinsteins will ALWAYS let Tarantino do whatever his warped little mind wants to, regardless of box office take. Therefore, (and keep in mind, once academy nominations come out, I could be proven totally wrong) the Weinsteins still care little about the box office.



If you notice, the academy likes anything with ‘Weinstein’ or ‘Miramax’ attached. Kill Bill will be no exception.

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Im not suprised. I have no doubt Miramax wants the movie to go on its own steem. Considering i havent seen any previews for it since its release, and none of the typical “come see the number one movie in the country” stuff, and even when they were shown before the release they were few and far between. Im not saying there havent been commercials, simply that i havent seen any, and ive been looking.



Also one must remember that unlike your traditional blockbuster or sequel this movie is very much a tribute to movies that, lets be honest, werent that popular originally.



Also this movie doesnt have Huge stars to fall back on. Uma Thurman has been out of the limelight for a long time, and the rest of the cast, with the exception of Lui, also have not been in big movies recently.

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I browse and post in a very wide range of forums from sports

to financial boards all the way to movie review sites. This is by far one of the most “out of touch” websites i have posted on (outside of some sports websites). Some people here seem to be completely out of touch with reality and are so enamored with this movie that all shreds of objectivity have been blown to smitherens thus making outlandish comments like “Weinsteins” dont care about money. The Weinsteins? are on mars or something? You would have to have lived under a ton of rocks for the last 20 years to even pretend to have such a far fetched and naive notion. Thats the equivalent of saying the “neighborhood drug dealer is not

interested in money.” (forgive the analogy but its mind numbing when one reads a statement in a post attempting to

potray the Weinsteins as some altruistic moviemakers more interested in the art than money. )

Other people even went as far as predicting that this movie makes 100 million in the USA alone (i did read 200 million somehere on this board) and double that overseas. Having miserably failed to reach that mark and still struggling to even make back its 65 million dollar tag, some have the gall to pretend that they did not have an eye on the box office numbers for this movie and are now trying to bury their obvious dissappointment by dissing the fans of other movies

(sour grapes perharps???) There wont be any quotes posted for its not my intention to embarass anyone

May be the reason this movie has done poorly at the box office and is for all intents and purposes a flop, is because the movie genuinely sucks and has no resonance whatsoever with the general public. Going around proclaiming that every one you know liked it (there is a psychology term for this type of misconception but it escapes my mind… Should have paid more attention in psych 101) is just indicative of the company you keep (ie birds of the same feathers flock together) Not that there is anything wrong with it, but you should be aware of the fact that every one around you has the same interests

and probably dislikes and that is the reason you were drawn to that person in the first place. It however does not mean that your sentiments are over whelming and should be held by those outside your circle. Like it or not the performance of a particular movie at the box office in certain scenarios does indicate the reaction of the general public to a particular movie. If a movie busts in as the top movie openinng weekend and quickly falls to number 2 (replaced by a mediocre remake of some other movie) and falls out of the top 5 shortly after that with quickly declining ticket sales is indicative of a terrible movie that got the initial ticket sales based on issues like commercials and name recognition of actors or reknown directors. The average joe did not like this movie and sure as hell told their friend it was crap. Thats the reason it is going to dvd in less than a month and will be pulled entirely from theatres in a few weeks. For one to say something like such and such a movie is great but made less than say 30 million at the box office is missing one important issue. The movie in question did not break in as the top movie of the week and proceed to drop like a ton of bricks with dismal ticket sales in comparison to the number of theatres showing it. Case and point is the Clint eastwood movie currently showing in select theatres. It averaged about 45,000.00 per theatre it was shown at compared to a mere 7500.00 Kill bill was collecting.

All in all both bad and good movies can garner very large opening weekends at the box office based on a number of issues. Its the truly bad ones that become subject to the scrutiny of the general public and end up falling out and going to dvd with in a month or two of their opening weekend.The good ones will feed off the word of mouth phenomenon and have a longer life. The other movies that are good and dont get good box offices are victims of poor advertising or just a basic lack of

recognition by the public. Kill bill suffered its fate as foreseen by the wiley Weinsteins who were keen enough to split it into to two and sold off the foreign distribution rights to guarantee

a profit at the any cost. They also clamped down on Tarantino

and had excessive violence removed so as to maximize profits from dvd sales.



You can kid yourself all you want,Tarantino will never have a budget that big (55 million which was 12 million over and above the original budget) to make another movie, his movie kill bill will not recieve even one oscar nomination in any category and kill bill 2 will be lucky to get 30 million at the

box office next year.



Ps. Call it what you may but so far my prediction of its performance overseas and locally in the USa have been far closer to most outrageous estimates made by the fans of QT on this board. And i am not ashamed to say i am a huge

Wachowski fan! :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

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REDKINGS, GO FUCK YOURSELF. YOU ANNOYING FUCKIN CUNT.



I am sick and fuckin tired of reading your rantings and raving fuckin 1000 word posts about your stupid theories about box office bullshit. Your only here to bash Kill Bill any way you can.



Kill Bill was knocked off the top because of the same old plain Hollywood teen shit. Texas Chainsaw Massacre (shit) SCARY MOVIE 3 (shit) That stuff is forgettable crap, yet its obviously the most accessible to all audiences.



Kill Bill Volume 1 is the best film of 2003 imo, if it makes 200 million dollars or 60 million dollars.

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[quote]REDKINGS, GO FUCK YOURSELF. YOU ANNOYING FUCKIN CUNT.





Kill Bill was knocked off the top because of the same old plain Hollywood teen shit. Texas Chainsaw Massacre (shit) SCARY MOVIE 3 (shit) That stuff is forgettable crap, yet its obviously the most accessible to all audiences.


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Thank you for proving my point. Kill bill sucks worse than the same old hollywood teen shit like TExas chainsaw massacre…

People are actually find more value in this crap than the so called “classic”  LMAO. That speaks volumes about the quality of kill bill.



And you are tired of my bullshit theories? Funny thing is that i am far closer to realism than your bullshit childish out of touch predictions of how kill bill would make 100 million. (yeah and when it reaches that mark, i have a bridge to sell to you in brooklyn)



Ps…Guess who released Scary movie 3…The one and only miramax. Shows you how much they care about Tarantino and

his kill bill flop

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Go home.

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Redkings, I direct you several links about Kill Bill and how good it is.



http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/KillBillVol1-1126182/



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Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003) - IMDb



Or, as you probably are going to distort the information found in these, I’ll post the highlights:



IMDB-User Rating:  8.3/10 (12,684 votes)  top 250: #92



Ebert-“Kill Bill: Volume 1 shows Quentin Tarantino so effortlessly and brilliantly in command of his technique that he reminds me of a virtuoso violinist racing through “Flight of the Bumble Bee” – or maybe an accordion prodigy setting a speed record for “Lady of Spain.” I mean that as a sincere compliment. The movie is not about anything at all except the skill and humor of its making. It’s kind of brilliant.”



**** out of **** stars



Rotten Tomatoes-RATING: FRESH  READING: 83% ÂÂ



(FRESH = 60% or Greater)   Reviews counted: 175

Fresh: 146  Rotten: 29

Average Rating: 8/10 ÂÂ



Also, here are the Box Office numbers-



BOX OFFICE SUMMARY

Box Office Total: $54,037,681 ÂÂ

Box Office Opening: $22,089,322 ÂÂ

No. of Weeks at #1: 1 ÂÂ

No. of Weeks in Top 10: 3 ÂÂ



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BOX OFFICE HISTORY

Week Rank Wkd. Gross Theaters Per Theater Cumulative

1 1 $22,089,322 3,102 $7,121 $22,089,322

2 2 $12,424,841 3,102 $4,005 $43,235,778

3 7 $6,355,590 2,633 $2,414 $54,037,681





To deny these would be to destroy your whole arguement that this is generally considered a flop. Now admit you’re wrong and go suck an egg. I don’t want to hear from you again.

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Oh Redkings you sad little man, go away and stop wasting our time and yours. Why do you come back when you hate the movie so much? You obviously liked it enough to talk about it (repeatedly) and try and convince fans of a genius movie that we’re all fucking morons. Just accept the fact that more people liked this movie than not and it’s not all dependent on box office (look at Matrix Reloaded - a boring, worthless, contrived, pretentious, piece of shit that everyone HAD to see oh the heartache) and then your life will be so much more stable. You’ll even be able to go outside with a smile on your face and ladies will begin to think of you in the way you always knew they could. Go on, admit it - you want to better yourself. To begin this journey of self discovery you can start by FUCKING OFF.



Go fuck yourself (cos lets face it, you aint getting any anywhere else).

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calling kill bill a flop is ludicrous. it made back it’s production costs, and it’s only halfway done making money. less than halfway done.



i don['t think anyone would have a problem in hollywood giving 50 million dollar budgets if they could be assured to make back double that.



a flop? hardly. just because it didn’t make 200 million like reloaded, which was one of the biggest disappointments of the year, doesn’t make something a failure.



fortunately i hear that revolutions is better. we will see.

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[quote]calling kill bill a flop is ludicrous. it made back it’s production costs, and it’s only halfway done making money. less than halfway done.



i don['t think anyone would have a problem in hollywood giving 50 million dollar budgets if they could be assured to make back double that.



a flop? hardly. just because it didn’t make 200 million like reloaded, which was one of the biggest disappointments of the year, doesn’t make something a failure.



fortunately i hear that revolutions is better. we will see.[/quote]


Like i said you geeks over here are in your own little world and
plan on staying in it to the bitter floppy end of kill bill.
And here come the comparisons with Matrix reloaded. I hate to tell you this, but it was made for 300 million and it made
200 million in just two weeks. It has earned 785 million world wide. So let me get this straight. Matrix one made over 400 million (production budget was 68 million thats only 3 more than kill bill) matrix reloaded made 785. That my friend is
close to 1.2 billion the matrix series has made so far with
a possible 500 million or more with the last installment...

and kill bill is at what? 54 million? After 3 weeks and thats the best it could do? It was made for 65 million and still hasnt recovered its costs... you cant even count foreign gross
because Miramax sold the distribution rights. So miramax
spent 65 million and they will make about 70 may be 75 million from this movie..I know investment mathematics is not your
forte' but spending that amount of money to make 5 million or
even 10 million in profit is a fiscal disaster. That money could have earned that amount in the two years Tarantino spent making that movie just sitting in a bank. Now on the other
hand spending 368 million to make over 1 billion dollars. that my friend is what is defined as sucess...

Keep on dreaming.

Ps... Kill bill fell all the way to no.7 after only 2 weeks? thats embarrasing man. That was the most anticipated movie of the year. And Roger Ebert gave it a million stars. It should have grossed more than a miserable 22 million opening weekend. It should have held number one spot for at least two weeks.
I guess it just plain sucks and no one is going back for the
second.
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You’r so fucking stupid Redkings. You at first complain about how we compair it to the matrix, which you started, then go ahead and compair it yourself. It might be a disapointment to many of the QT fans but it isn’t a flop. it has already made back it’s budget. Then their’s the second and the DVD’s. The three DVD’s will include one dvd of only the first then one of only the second then one with both that has tons of special features. It wasn’t great but it was nothing to gripe about.



it’s still maken’t money. their’s also the world wide releace. Stop compairing it to the matrix, that movie was so fucking huge, it has nothing to do with Kill Bill. I’m getting real tired with your fucking lame half assed bashes at this movie.