Scorsese - Master of urban epics

get a clue huh Toothpicvega? well what about the subject matter in a film?! a A film can be short and have an EPIC subject matter like Michael Moore’s Bowling For Columbine.

[quote]get a clue huh Toothpicvega? well what about the subject matter in a film?! a A film can be short and have an EPIC subject matter like Michael Moore’s Bowling For Columbine.[/quote]

…what? bowling for columbine. BFC is one of the greatest and most important films since years, but its not EPIC! its a movie every american should HAVE TO watch, but its not an epic movie. come on.

Pulp just doesnt get it. He needs to put down the Nintendo 64 and watch some more movies, then come back when he understands what we’re talkin about.



First it was the Kid Rock music in WW2, now its Epics are any movies that he wants them to be.



Kids these days.

Toothpickvega you arrogance is about as stifiling as a McRoyale with cheese! Look buddy I want to be a director someday. Movies I have recently seen(you said i need to see more movies:



Daredevil

Dazed and Confused

Dr. Zhivago



I sense that you people think I am the Message Board Idiot. I am just a 15 year old(no N64 MIND U TOOTHPICK VEGA) I Love film and all directors including: Tarantino, Stone,Scorsese, Lucas, Spielberg, and some of Tim Burton. I read screenplays and go to www.aintitcool.com every FN DAY. I just want to direct someday and maybe Toothpicvega you could either scrutinize me or give me advice.



THERE I REVEALED MY TRUE SELF!

[quote]Toothpickvega you arrogance is about as stifiling as a McRoyale with cheese! Look buddy I want to be a director someday. Movies I have recently seen(you said i need to see more movies:



Daredevil

Dazed and Confused

Dr. Zhivago



I sense that you people think I am the Message Board Idiot. I am just a 15 year old(no N64 MIND U TOOTHPICK VEGA) I Love film and all directors including: Tarantino, Stone,Scorsese, Lucas, Spielberg, and some of Tim Burton. I read screenplays and go to www.aintitcool.com every FN DAY. I just want to direct someday and maybe Toothpicvega you could either scrutinize me or give me advice.



THERE I REVEALED MY TRUE SELF! [/quote]

Pulp I was really just kidding. You seem like a cool kid, but some of your ideas strike me as a little strange.



You’ve seen Dr Zhivago, so at least you know what an Epic is in the true sense of the word. I still dont believe those films you think are “Epics” are. You should really watch more of those Dr Zhivago kind of films, then you’ll see what I’m talkin about when it comes to a film being an “Epic”.



Thats cool that you wanna be a director and your into movies too. Good luck on your quest. :slight_smile:

okay cool man i get what you are saying. I dunno my goal when i become a director is to blend the storytelling of Scorsese, the violent spontaneous feel of Peckinpah(Wild Bunch baby) and the imagination to rival Spielberg/Lucas. I understand some of my ideas are a little out there lol(Kid Rock in WWII) but isnt a modern day Romeo and Juliet film OUT THERE. Plus they kept the dialouge from the 1500s while setting it in the 1990s wtf is up with that? lol

Thats awesome how you want to be a director. I to have such aspirations as to become a direcor and screenwriter. Currently I’m working on funding for some independant projects. I’m going to see if some law schooling can hook me up. I have some great ideas, but no scripts done yet. I’ve been working on a couple though (Isn’t that the case everywhere?). I’m interested…how could would Kid Rock work out in WWII? Oh well. I guess the Nazis had to listen to something.

i just meant it as backround music. Rock blasting as soldiers fight… The whole FN message board associates me with my innocent Kid Rock post LOL

Hey people don’t mess scorsese with epics like lotr! epic is lawrence of arabia, epic is david lean, william wyler, stanley kubrick at times(barry lyndon, spartacus) scorsese (gangs, kundun)etc etc etc. I don’t think that kill bill will be an epic.

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Great film! Taxi Driver is a masterpiece of cinema.



Yep Scorsese is the master, I love ALL his films. If you loved Taxi Driver and GoodFellas, you’ll really like Mean Streets too. Thats one of his best films. Robert DeNiro is fuckin hilarious in it. Harvey Keitel is great as Charlie. Watch out for David Carradine and his brother Robert in small roles in the bar. Its a smaller film, but you can see the origins of Scorsese’s style. It all began with Mean Streets. ÂÂ

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Big time agree!

If you haven’t seen Mean Streets, you ain’t seen a shit from Scorsese

If you don’t like Mean Streets, you don’t like Scorsese.

This movie is the ultimate Scorsesian movie(street gangs, religion, women etc.) I mean is the only movie by him that can count as a 100% Scorsese. And the man has said that it is his favorite movie from himself.

I agree but after Taxi Driver!

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The Last Waltz (the best rock concert film EVER)
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Yes, definitely !

I love that “Band”. And here you can see that Scorsese is not only one of the best directors, but even one of the best editors of all time.



I love Scorsese. I think, “Goodfellas” is my favourite, followed by “Taxi Driver” and “Raging Bull” (the best De Niro performance ever ! ).



It broke my heart that “Gangs Of New York” was nearly overlooked, after it was awaited so hopefully for a long time. It´s a great movie, though :slight_smile:.

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And here you can see that Scorsese is not only one of the best directors, but even one of the best editors of all time.
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I agree but he doesn’t edit his films alright. Thelma-the great-Schoonmaker edits them. She has edited ALL Marty’s movies and edits exclusively only his movies! Well OK he is in the editing room with her as any other director-editor but the credit goes to Thelma! THELMA YOU RULE!

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I agree but he doesn’t edit his films alright. Thelma-the great-Schoonmaker edits them. She has edited ALL Marty’s movies and edits exclusively only his movies! Well OK he is in the editing room with her as any other director-editor but the credit goes the Thelma! THELMA YOU RULE![/quote]

Well, that´s right. But he isn´t listed as an editor for “The Last Waltz”. There´s only a “special thanks” in the end credits. That´s why I thought that it was edited by Scorsese himself. By the way, he also helped editing “Elvis On Tour” and “Woodstock”.

He was also a second unit director in woodstock, so…

the best rock movie and the best concert-movie are both related with Marty.

I thought it would be interesting to show you the results of a poll made in a Scorsese forum about his best films.


  1. Taxi Driver [1976] == 153
  2. Goodfellas [1990] == 144
  3. Raging Bull [1980] == 123
  4. Casino [1995] == 109
  5. Mean Streets [1973] == 76
  6. Gangs of New York [2002] == 68
  7. King of Comedy, The [1983] == 65
  8. Bringing Out the Dead [1999] == 59
  9. Last Temptation of Christ, The [1988] == 54
  10. Cape Fear [1991] == 46
  11. Age of Innocence, The [1993] == 38
  12. After Hours [1985] == 30
  13. Color of Money, The [1986] == 18
  14. Kundun [1997] == 14
  15. Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore [1974] == 13
  16. Last Waltz, The [1978] == 9
  17. New York, New York [1977] == 3
  18. Boxcar Bertha [1972] == 3
  19. Who’s That Knocking at My Door? [1968] == 0

I totally agree with that list, at least from the Marty movies I’d seen. Personally, I always thought “Bringing out the Dead” was Scorsese’s most underrated movie ever; but number 8 is not too bad. The movie which I haven’t seen yet but would really love to is “The Last Temptation of Christ”; but I’m a bit afraid to order it since I don’t know if it’s still banned around here or not. And as a bit of trivia: did you know that it was David Carradine himself who recommended the Temptation book to Scorsese on the “Boxcar Bertha” set? Pretty cool huh?

Antonio Montana, indeed Bringing out the Dead is an underrated masterpiece! ‘‘The last Temptation of Christ’’ is a masterpiece, and one of my favorite movies! Go see it now!! The movie is still banned in Greece but I found it after months and months of searching! Barbara Hershey was the one that gave the ‘‘Last Temptation’’ book by Nikos Kazantzakis to Marty on the set of Boxcar Bertha, and she made Marty promise to her, that if someday he becomes a ‘‘major’’ director, and want to adapt the book into a movie, he would offer her the role of Mary Magdalene!

After 16 years, Marty kept his promise!

[quote]Antonio Montana, indeed Bringing out the Dead is an underrated masterpiece! Barbara Hershey was the one that gave the ‘‘Last Temptation’’ book by Nikos Kazantzakis to Marty on the set of Boxcar Bertha, and she made Marty promise to her, that if someday he becomes a ‘‘major’’ director, and want to adapt the book into a movie, he would offer her the role of Mary Magdalene!

After 16 years, Marty kept his promise![/quote]

Indeed, it was both of them. To quote the book “Scorsese on Scorsese”, Chapter 6:



“Although I’d heard about Kazantzakis’s book when I was a student at NYU, it was Barbara Hershey and David Carradine who gave it to me when we’d finished shooting “Boxcar Bertha” in 1972.”

Really? Shit, I always thought it was Barbara only!

Thanks for clearing my mind!

I don’t have any books about Marty but I’m planning to order about 4 of them in October!

Looking forward to them! :stuck_out_tongue:

Scorsese;

yeah, I love Scorsese…I think if there was no Scorsese…I doubt there would be a DeNiro or Keitel…or Tarantino :’(



I liked Who’s that Knocking at My Door? It wasn’t fantastic, but definetely a good first budget film. And I think the sex/dream scene is the best, scored perfectly to the Door’s “THE END” Really good stuff.





epics;

to me an epic is like the BIG film and BEST of it’s genre…



…like KILL-BILL is gonna be…a huge genre film…an EPIC