It’s nothing funny at all. Luxie, do you want to say that if someone doesn’t want his kid to become a wrestler or participate in dangerous motor sports, he shouldn’t like these sports as well? Most of the people watching extreme stuff would never EVER want their kids there. Hell, I wouldn’t want my daughter to become a waiter in a restaurant either, that doesn’t mean I should hate the waiter service.
The same with porn. We are consumers, we consume everything. How it is produced - it’s in most cases NOT OUR BUSINESS and we don’t care about it. I am writing on a keyboard produced in China, most probably a sweatshop, where people make just enough to survive, of course, it’s awful, it’s fucking TRAGIC, yet, I am not refusing to use it, because then I’d have to buy an expensive one.
Yeah, that is exactly the problem with porn…We just consume and don’ t think about wtf we are actually consuming.
It’s just mindless to say: well it is a product, so why not watch it?
What are we? Zombies? Well most people are and that is maybe for the best. We need stupid people to do the mindless stupid jobbies in life. What worries me though is that these peoples voices are becoming just as important or even more important than the people that can actually think. Just because there is a high demand for it, doesnt make it right.
People don’t think and the most popular porn sites are the ones that have “teens” in them, girls that are maybe 18, but look like they are 14 or something. Its not really ethical I think.
People need to start thinking more about what the fuck they actually consume and make choices more out of ethical and moral points of view, not just out of: I want it, its there, I consume it, living zombie mindstate.
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People don’t think and the most popular porn sites are the ones that have “teens” in them, girls that are maybe 18, but look like they are 14 or something. Its not really ethical I think.
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lol, trust me, if a big site has girls under 18 in em, it will be shut down in 2 seconds, ever heard of 2257 law?
“18 U.S.C. 2257 Compliance Statement
In compliance with United States Code, Title 18, Section 2257, all models, actors, actresses and other persons who appear in any visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct appearing or otherwise contained in or at this site were over the age of eighteen years at the time of the creation of such depictions. Records required to be maintained pursuant to U.S.C. Title 18, Section 2257 are kept by the custodian of records at: adres”
the government keeps really good track of this law, i know it cause i talk to the guy who owns a relative big site, almost once a year they come over to the office and check out all the paperwork, he even had to delete some of the scenes on the site, not because she was underraged but because he lost some documentation from that day, it’s not like the girls and guys come in, fuck, leave and that’s it, before each scene they sign a contract, they take an aidstest, they arrange their payement etc. it’s a business
the porn business gets a bad name because a few rotten apples spoil it all, i dont know if anyone is a member at insidenaughtyamerica.com, well i am (well, i have a pass 
) and it shows the behind the scenes and these girls have lots and lots of fun, young guys own the company, they aren’t cruel, they are just a bunch of friends, they joke around, after the scene they give the girls a tap on the shoulder and tell her “good job, girl”, “you did very good today”, respect on both sides, it’s work, they get paid, go home, live their lives
No, the girls are 18, I believe that, but they look like they are 14. So there are daddy’s of 14 year olds jerking off to girls dressed as 14 year olds. Usually they get beaten first or after or just raped. These kind of sites get LOTS of hits per day.
There aint no ethical or moral ideas behind porn at all. They are only restricted by some laws which they not really obey I think.
But the zombies love it I guess, and they are the majority, so they win, majority is profit and democracy.
[quote=“tarantino_is_god”]
But the zombies love it I guess, and they are the majority, so they win, majority is profit and democracy.
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Consumers aren’t really zombies, buying needless stuff makes them happy, really. Others think these people don’t realize they are actually used by producers, but whatever, if they’re all right it’s good. At least they’re harmless. I have no problems with the whole “IKEA community”, usually quiet, ordinary people.
At a point I was annoyed by the music nowadays, consumerist films, stuff for mobile phones and all that, I still am, but there isn’t really a reson for me to be. If I know what I like, why should I try to change others?
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No, the girls are 18, I believe that, but they look like they are 14. So there are daddy’s of 14 year olds jerking off to girls dressed as 14 year olds. Usually they get beaten first or after or just raped. These kind of sites get LOTS of hits per day.
There aint no ethical or moral ideas behind porn at all. They are only restricted by some laws which they not really obey I think.
But the zombies love it I guess, and they are the majority, so they win, majority is profit and democracy.
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I think that if you look around you will see that there has been a Golbal crackdown on illegal pornography. Here in the United States, you see arrests made every single day. Just last week they arrested a high-profile politician in the department of defense. The FBI is also having agents pose as 14 year olds in order to catch these perverted bastards. If you look at mainstream pornography, however, you will usually see girls between the ages of 20-30 years old…the most popular being the legends of the business like Jenna Jameson and Asia Carrera.
[quote=“Bleach”]
It’s nothing funny at all. Luxie, do you want to say that if someone doesn’t want his kid to become a wrestler or participate in dangerous motor sports, he shouldn’t like these sports as well? Most of the people watching extreme stuff would never EVER want their kids there. Hell, I wouldn’t want my daughter to become a waiter in a restaurant either, that doesn’t mean I should hate the waiter service.
The same with porn. We are consumers, we consume everything. How it is produced - it’s in most cases NOT OUR BUSINESS and we don’t care about it. I am writing on a keyboard produced in China, most probably a sweatshop, where people make just enough to survive, of course, it’s awful, it’s fucking TRAGIC, yet, I am not refusing to use it, because then I’d have to buy an expensive one.
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This is the official porn star appreciation thread. You guys are always criticizing me for changing the subject, yet now you have turned my thread into a forum to talk about whehter porno is right or wrong. I just want to talk about Jenna Jameson’s grooming techniques or maybe find out how Peter North shoots so far.
I don’t care either, as long as this isn’t oppressing other stuff that I care about.
I read an article about people getting more and more unaware that they are living. So becoming less and less selfconcious. The type that are influenced by hypnosize and commercials on tv without being aware that they are.
Luckily there is also a growing group that develops themselves in the other way, with a more concious and selfreflective nature.
My point is that the humanbeings that cause the humanrace to evolve arent the consumers. They are gifted talented people that are different. They should be given the room to keep this world evolving or at least monotoring at least some kind of quality.
My concern is that the less selfconcious get a bigger and bigger voice. Their standards are opressing the development of people that actually think. Products are made to make profit. Profit is giving the masses what they want. It looks like that standard is just dumbing down. Less and less quality. Less and less ethical and moral thoughts about issues. Just opinions based on an impulse.
The more this kind of standard is dominant, the less people are triggered to actually think. One big soapcommercial. Put a dictator in front of it and his masters voice will use his pavlov skills to pull some more genocides.
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I don’t care either, as long as this isn’t oppressing other stuff that I care about.
I read an article about people getting more and more unaware that they are living. So becoming less and less selfconcious. The type that are influenced by hypnosize and commercials on tv without being aware that they are.
Luckily there is also a growing group that develops themselves in the other way, with a more concious and selfreflective nature.
My point is that the humanbeings that cause the humanrace to evolve arent the consumers. They are gifted talented people that are different. They should be given the room to keep this world evolving or at least monotoring at least some kind of quality.
My concern is that the less selfconcious get a bigger and bigger voice. Their standards are opressing the development of people that actually think. Products are made to make profit. Profit is giving the masses what they want. It looks like that standard is just dumbing down. Less and less quality. Less and less ethical and moral thoughts about issues. Just opinions based on an impulse.
The more this kind of standard is dominant, the less people are triggered to actually think. One big soapcommercial. Put a dictator in front of it and his masters voice will use his pavlov skills to pull some more genocides.
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I would have to say that most members of this forum would agree with you. I certainly do. I beileve that the main culprits of the problem you speak of are the parents of today’s children. They are supposed to regulate their children until they are mature enough to understand the ways of the world. The problem is that most of these parents do not even know themselves.
who’s seen Deep Throat? now no matter how famous this flick is, it’s really not good. I meant he idea is great, the music is retro and well - lovelace means business ;_) - but its not like a modern porno where most of the people involved are good looking and clean and shaved and all that stuff… yuck, deep throat co-stars an older lady… shudders
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who’s seen Deep Throat? now no matter how famous this flick is, it’s really not good. I meant he idea is great, the music is retro and well - lovelace means business ;_) - but its not like a modern porno where most of the people involved are good looking and clean and shaved and all that stuff… yuck, deep throat co-stars an older lady… shudders
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i’ve seen parts of it yeah, you seen the documentary? i should pick it up soon
It is really phenominal how that movie became so popular. It probably had a little to do wiht the Nixon connection, or maybe that John Holmes had a 12.5 inch prick. That’'s double of most men. I just read some articles about John Holmes and the Wonderland murders. It was pretty entertaining, but I found that the information is a little more uslesess that the usual useless information that I bore you guys with.
Have any of you seen any films by Michael Ninn - Ninn Worx
they are filmed really well by some pretty experienced camera men and lighting crews. No expense has been spared.
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Guys have different plumbing than you girls have. We have a system with a series of “pumps and valves” that are capable of being manipulated quite easily. When the storage facility becomes pressurized the valves need to be opened up so that the pumps can release some of the volume.
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You’re making it seem as if women dont have sex drives. I actually think, that on average, womens sex drives are much more intense then mens. Alot of men take sex to casually, while women are usually very passionate. You dont think women get really horny? Its the same for both genders.
[quote=“tarantino_is_god”]
Yeah, that is exactly the problem with porn…We just consume and don’ t think about wtf we are actually consuming.
It’s just mindless to say: well it is a product, so why not watch it?
What are we? Zombies? Well most people are and that is maybe for the best. We need stupid people to do the mindless stupid jobbies in life. What worries me though is that these peoples voices are becoming just as important or even more important than the people that can actually think. Just because there is a high demand for it, doesnt make it right.
People don’t think and the most popular porn sites are the ones that have “teens” in them, girls that are maybe 18, but look like they are 14 or something. Its not really ethical I think.
People need to start thinking more about what the fuck they actually consume and make choices more out of ethical and moral points of view, not just out of: I want it, its there, I consume it, living zombie mindstate.
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I totally agree tig, its like those creeps who buy the “barely legal” magazines. They’re staying in the confines of the law, but want to see them as young as they can legally.
I was watching a show the other day, and they mentioned how in America, it is legal to have animated or virtual porn that has children, as long as no real children are included in the production. Here in Canada, its illegal. Isnt it a bit fucked up that people are simply accepting the fact that some people want to watch children have sex, and make it ok as long as its not “real”. Its not fixing the problem, its just like giving someone a pill for a broken leg, its not going to fix anything.
I also disagree with people saying “its there, so why not?”. That such as easy conclusion to come too, its ridiculous. Use your brain for gods sake. Main stream porn, not all, but most, in my opinion is degrading to both men and women. Its degrading to men by making them animalistic sexual perverts, and degrading to women by making them submissive to the wills of men sexually. It allows hammers in rigid gender roles. Think about it, you dont have to agree, but just think about it for a change.
Not at all…they just don’t want to see some old worn out hag they’ve jerked off to a million times before. If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all. If you want to bash porn, do it on your anti-porn thread…I know, there isn’t an anti-porn thread…so go make one and leave this one for the guys!
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You’re making it seem as if women dont have sex drives. I actually think, that on average, womens sex drives are much more intense then mens. Alot of men take sex to casually, while women are usually very passionate. You dont think women get really horny? Its the same for both genders.
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That is until they get married. Let me give you single guys some advice…get all of the blowjobs and pussy that you can!!!
[quote=“Kilgore Trout”]
Not at all…they just don’t want to see some old worn out hag they’ve jerked off to a million times before.
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Youre so eloquent.
what can I say…I have a way with words
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