Michael jackson is dead!

Ah jte jure, ils me saoulent bien là . David Carradine meurt en prouvant au monde entier que un sex addict, il a une mort trop trash and allez on l’honore, on le chérit, et Michael Jackson ah non on va le pourrir jusque dans la tombe.

[quote=“dandadub”]
lets look at the facts. the MAN slept in the ned with lots of children. cuddling them as hes said. [/quote]

Facts ? I’ll trust you until you tell me you slept in the same bed as him. Until that day, nothing has been proved, so it’s not fact ! And yeah, keep in mind that he hasn’t been proved guilty. Anyway I’m sick on that kind of comment. Whoever the person was, he’s dead alright, so now stop writing here if it’s only to disrespect him. That’d be nice.

It’s cool to see how many personalities who met him or shared music with him pay tribute to him now. He really impressed a lot of people.



http://www.paulmccartney.com/news.php

To all those who are accusing MJ of whatever hideous acts, I suggest you watch the documentary “Living with Michael Jackson: Take Two”. It shows you how the media capitalised shamelessly and lied on him in order to make a quick buck.



Here’s the first part: - YouTube

But I believe it is safe to say that the Michael Jackson everyone is mourning died a lonnnnngggggg time ago.

oh shit… you should say that to everyone who is crying in the world. They seem not to know that…

no they choose to look past it. they think he was actually innocent in those trials, they didnt seem to notice the money he lost shortly after the verdict was presented. theres two mj’s : the good and the bad. i mean you dont see any tributes showing footage of him hanging his baby over a balcony do you?

Your simplistic manicheism leaves me speechless. I’m tired.

[quote=“Mr. Pink”]
no they choose to look past it. they think he was actually innocent in those trials, they didnt seem to notice the money he lost shortly after the verdict was presented. theres two mj’s : the good and the bad. i mean you dont see any tributes showing footage of him hanging his baby over a balcony do you?
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Why do you think people prefer to look the good side when someone just died ? It’s called respect, dammit. How many times do we have to repeat it.

[quote=“Mr. Pink”]
no they choose to look past it. they think he was actually innocent in those trials, they didnt seem to notice the money he lost shortly after the verdict was presented. theres two mj’s : the good and the bad. i mean you dont see any tributes showing footage of him hanging his baby over a balcony do you?
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Another instance that was blown out of proportion by the media. He just wanted his fans to see his baby, and “dangled” him for an impressive 2 seconds - holding him quite firm throughout.

so? its the what if factor. he was holding him over the balconey, meaning there was a chance of dropping him, he put his child in a fatal situation.

and as for respect, thats a matter of opinion. if you respect MJ thats your business, hell even i can respect a king of pop. but hes not an angel, and thats what pisses me off cause alot of people think he has never done anything wrong

[quote=“21grams”]
oh shit… you should say that to everyone who is crying in the world. They seem not to know that…
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I’m pretty sure they already know. His mind was gone, his body was gone and he died. But excuse those who don’t take this seriously. If my grandfather died that day, I’d be more concerned about that than some celebrity king of pop. Jackson made great music but I’ve never gotten the fact that he gets more than 48 hours of coverage while an American soldier gets a newsbite.

But Pink, you and everyone here have no idea what happened. So don’t focus on the bad. You’re worse than Bio making light of Carradine’s death. Take a cue from your signature.

yeah well you take a cue from my camption.

i am opinionated against Micheal Jackson. End of story.

Sorry for the bad English, but :



F.W., Michael Jackson was one of the most famous man in the world, and he made much in his art, that’s logical we talk about him a lot (now that much OK I don’t know). A lot of people feel close to him through his songs, that’s why they are sad. Nobody said his life is more important that whoever not famous people. But people feel like they know a bit him, through his music. Don’t feel offended, people would cry far more for the death of a member of their family, that’s NOT THE POINT AT ALL of this topic. We just want to pay tribute to one of the most talented man* of the last century, is that a bad thing? And please, stop with that “American soldier” thing, there are NOT the most important lives in the world, not more than the Iraqi that they have killed. We don’t want to talk about that here. PLEASE.



*in his style of music and dance of course

[quote=“Sgt. Geoi Donowitz”]
And Ed McMahon.
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i thought the same thing 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[quote=“cyber-lili”]
Ah jte jure, ils me saoulent bien là . David Carradine meurt en prouvant au monde entier que un sex addict, il a une mort trop trash and allez on l’honore, on le chérit, et Michael Jackson ah non on va le pourrir jusque dans la tombe.

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il y a pas de mal à être un sex addict… et vaut mieux etre ça qu’un pédophile (qui n’a pas fait un bon disque en 20 ans) qd mm…

[quote=“cyber-lili”]
Facts ? I’ll trust you until you tell me you slept in the same bed as him. Until that day, nothing has been proved, so it’s not fact !
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that’s one of the biggest jokes of the 90s/early 00s. that and “O.J. is innocent”

[quote=“F.W.”]
But I believe it is safe to say that the Michael Jackson everyone is mourning died a lonnnnngggggg time ago.
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i feel exactly the same way. 5 yrs ago i was already sad by how bad this guy fucked up his talent. plus i wasn’t that suprised about his death. i didn’t expect him to live old. he was a genius. but after Dangerous, I tuned out.

[quote=“Cpt tonyanthony”]
il y a pas de mal à être un sex addict… et vaut mieux etre ça qu’un pédophile (qui n’a pas fait un bon disque en 20 ans) qd mm…
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Je pense que personne ne peut affirmer qu’il soit pédophile, okay visiblement il a une relation chelou avec les gamins, okay il a fait tomber les charges de son procès à l’amiable en filant plein de tunes, blabla. Mais il n’empêche que c’est malsain de se focaliser là -dessus et de dire “je m’en fous de sa mort parce que ce mec est un pédophile”. On juge l’artiste ou la personne ?



Parce qu’il me semble que personne n’a pourrit la mort de James Brown sur ce forum en disant que ce mec est un gros fumier qui battait et abusait de ses femmes et de ses choristes, et que ceci a été prouvé ou en tout cas la justice l’a pénalisé pour ça. Et pourquoi personne en a parlé ? Parce que ouai James Brown est un putain d’artiste comme Michael Jackson. Donc là c’est la même chose, ici on honore l’artiste et on peut au moins avoir la descence d’attendre quelques jours avant de ressortir l’éternel “oh c’est un pédophile” pour gacher la fête.



Et peut-être qu’il a pas sorti de bons disques selon toi depuis 20 ans mais il n’empêche que les bons disques d’avant qu’il a sorti ont changé la musique, la danse, l’histoire du clip musical à jamais. Et que au moins pour les quand même nombreux albums réussis, on peut enfin avouer SANS CRAINTE de se faire accuser à son tort d’aimer un pédophile, que Michael Jackson est un génie, point barre. Et ça au-delà des goûts musicaux. J’ai pas besoin d’être fan pour l’avouer.

je n’ai pas dit que c’était pas un génie, relis mon post en entier.

maintenant, on est dans des sociétés ou la pédophilie c’est, symboliquement, un des crimes les plus graves qui soient. donc oui, désolé, ça fait un peu mal de se dire que ce type qui a fait des trucs aussi incroyables jusqu’en 1990 a pu avoir une deuxième moitié de carrière aussi décevante, sordide et malsaine que ça (et, notamment, oui, dans la façon dont elle a été exploitée).

mais faire comme si ça n’existait pas ça sert à rien. ça serait comme si on avait dit à la mort de Céline: on va oublier pendant deux jours que ce type a écrit d’horribles pamphlets antisémites pdt la guerre sous prétexte qu’il a par ailleurs changé la face de la littérature. L’homme est là , avec ses très bons et ses très mauvais côtés et en faire un ange, même deux jours n’a pas vraiment de sens. voilà .

sinon, je suis cynique, mais la femme de james brown qui se fait battre, elle prend un avocat et un divorce. parce que c’est une adulte, je suis désolé mais ça fait la différence.

et moi ce que je soulignais surtout c’est que tu comparais ça à David Carradine qui est mort en se masturbant, comme si c’était une perversion de la même gravite. alors qu’à ce que je sache il s’est juste fait du mal à lui.

[quote=“21grams”]
Sorry for the bad English, but :



F.W., Michael Jackson was one of the most famous man in the world, and he made much in his art, that’s logical we talk about him a lot (now that much OK I don’t know). A lot of people feel close to him through his songs, that’s why they are sad. Nobody said his life is more important that whoever not famous people. But people feel like they know a bit him, through his music. Don’t feel offended, people would cry far more for the death of a member of their family, that’s NOT THE POINT AT ALL of this topic. We just want to pay tribute to one of the most talented man* of the last century, is that a bad thing? And please, stop with that “American soldier” thing, there are NOT the most important lives in the world, not more than the Iraqi that they have killed. We don’t want to talk about that here. PLEASE.



*in his style of music and dance of course
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The American Soldier thing was clearly a joke. I’m Canadian.