[quote=“greendestiny”]Ok so let me get this straight, if uma thurman won that oscar it would a celebration of asian martial arts genre? So now Uma Thurman is Asian just because she appeared in one martial arts movie or are you implying that she some how is the face of asian martial arts?[/quote]
Not at all, what I am implying is the win wouldn’t be about Uma Thurman winning but the genre itself winning through the manifestation of Kill Bill. Uma isn’t the face of martial arts nor do I want her to be, it’s her overall performace (not just learning and performing martial arts, but the emotion she expresses in her acting) that speaks volumes of her talent. Zhang Ziyi wasn’t exactly making martial art flicks before “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon”, but it was her overall performace that shinned bright. That is what I looked at, not whether or not somone is Asian or even knows Martial arts. I don’t believe there is a rule that martial art films are suppose to be exclusively Asian. Years before Uma stepped on the scene there was this blonde white woman by the name of Cynthia Rothrock who made martial art flicks.
[quote]So if she had won an oscar for pulp fiction would you say it was a celebration of all the black actresses in american action genre that had never won anything?[/quote]
What does Uma’s role in Pulp Fiction have to do with black actresses in the american action genre? Whatever that is.
[quote]How can you say something so ridiculous? not to mention insulting to those very asian actresses you have mentioned that are ten times better than Uma Thurman on any given day![/quote]
I’m not insulting anyone. Sure those women can perform martial arts on screen better than Uma, but where they may be ten times better than Uma in that department, Uma is ten times better in the performance department.
[quote](Surely how shallow could your understanding of martial arts be for you to make such a ridiculous statement that implies the asian actresses are more or less inferior and are not worthy of winning anything in their own right?[/quote]
That wasn’t what I was implying, those Asian actresses have won awards for their work, just not in the United States.
[quote]Secondly there is a reason why those actresses have never won oscars… The movies they perform in do not qualify under the guidlines that govern the awards. Most of those movies they perform in only qualify for the best foreign film award and thats it. (pretty much all other categories have to of movies made in the english language)[/quote]
CTHD was a foreign film that was nominted for best picture.
[quote]And third and most important, martial arts movies or action movies do not win oscars. Movies that win oscars have a strong dramatic content not action sequences. And like it or not kill bill lacks severely in drama and dialogue.[/quote]
That perhaps was true with Vol.1, but not 2.
[quote]That is not to say that a movie which involves action sequences can not win an oscar. Movies like Saving Private Ryan, Gladiator etc have a stonger dramatic component than action component. Spider man is a far better movie than kill bill but it will not be in contention due to the fact that its an action movie.[/quote]
Are you talking about the first Spiderman film or Spiderman 2? The first Spiderman sucked and Spiderman 2 lacks in the acting department. Plus the special effects in those films look like a computer game. I can plug in my X-Box if I want that.
[quote](And yes CTHD won best foreign film because it has a more solid story, drama and dialogue that are well balanced with the action thus the phrase Action/drama normally used to categorize such movies.)[/quote]
Sure CTHD won for best foreign film, but it didn’t win for best film. If it would’ve beaten out Gladiator for best film, then I would’ve been talking about how that was a major celebration of the genre.