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The first time I heard it, I jumped outta my seat.
you you people honestly think that some fans cut is going to be better than Tarantino’s cut?
[quote]Goatfish, i can’t imagine not starting out with The Bride getting shot in the head!
that is probably my favorite intro scene in any movie!
it’s not the intro in your cut?! :o
well, i guess it’s your business seeing how it’s your cut. :-/
don’t mean to be insulting, it’s just my meager opinion.[/quote]
[color=Orange]I dig the scene, too. I just wanted to see what it would be like to set up the Klingon Revenge quote with the scene I chose to open my version with.
[quote]Yes Goatfish, I suppose it is ok for you to do something like this for your own (and others) pleasure.
I’m curious to know which cut you liked better, Tarantino’s full cut, or your own cut??[/quote]
[color=Orange]I can’t say just yet, since I only watched my version once. But I will watch it again shortly, and I’ll get back to you on that.
[quote]you you people honestly think that some fans cut is going to be better than Tarantino’s cut?[/quote]
[color=Orange]No! That’s NOT what the others are saying. They’re just wondering why I made the choices for my personal cut, as opposed to Tarantino’s official edits.
And for the record, I didn’t say my cut would be better overall. But I might end up liking my cut better for myself. And I might not. This is just an experiment in editing, which has been a hobby of mine since film school.
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here’s more from joblo.com:
While we may have to wait a few years for Tarantino’s next directorial outing, he recently gave away a few nibblets for us to chew on about his most recent effort KILL BILL. He recently spoke to USA Today at the premiere of HERO, the Asian martial arts epic that most recently topped the box office, that carries the billing “Presented By Quentin Tarantino” and mentioned the possibility of a full length KILL BILL. The solid DVD sales of both volumes of KILL BILL have sparked new interest in a theatrical release of a single full length movie that could be out as early as next year. However, Tarantino is quick to point out that “it’s not just like slapping the two together…there are slight changes, and it has an intermission, like a '60s movie”. Of course, the full length theatrical release wouldn’t be complete without an accompanying DVD, of which he said “it won’t make these two (current DVDs) obsolete. We have put everything we could on volumes 1 and 2, but I have all this cool stuff we have from over the course of a year and a half making (the films)”. Sounds fanf**kingtastic to me. Tarantino will next be on acting duties on the Larry Bishop directed HELL RIDE and the ABC special THE MUPPETS’ WIZARD OF OZ and hopefully at some point he’ll get behind the camera and start one of the many projects he’s been rumored to be circling.
[color=Purple]now isnt it quite possible that there could even be 3 discs? Who knows whats going to happen with that. I guess we all just have to wait and see.
And honestly changing one of QT’s movies is the lamest thing i have ever heard of. His movies are great the way they are. Yeah maybe there are some things I wouldn’t want in the movies, but to change it around sounds lame.
Goatfish. Ify asked which version was better, which is why Sidewinder said his comment. hello.
and seriously you changed the entire movie around. it loses its flavor. So I agree that placing the Vernita death AFTER the O-Ren battle is anti-climatic.
btw goatfish: did you change around Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs to put those in chronological order?! Cause thats about as stupid as changing Kill Bill
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Yawn. Another whiny self-righteous, narrow-minded fan. What a concept! ;D
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No need to diss the guy. There’s no doubt scenes you always skip when you watch any movie, which is your own way of fucking around with the movie. And it’s not like Goatfish threw away his Kill Bill dvd’s, and now will only watch his cut. About Pulp Fiction, it might be interesting to see it chronologically. It’s like Monte Hellman says (paraphrasing a hell of a lot) " it’s about the expereince gained from the film that counts. It might not be my experience, but it’s still a good thing."
[color=Purple]first of all goatfish fuck you and second of all. no i dont skip over scenes. not with tarantino movies. even if i dont like it. the scene still matters to the movie.
and im not whiny and self-righteous and narrow-minded. Being an actual filmmaker, this is a subject I care about.
and I still think its lame and thats my opinion so leave me to it. thanks.
[quote=“MistyDawn”]
[color=Purple] Being an actual filmmaker, this is a subject I care about.[/quote]
And so am I, probably LONGER than you, since you’re only 20 years old (according to your profile) and I am 35!!!
Before your ignorance & arrogance of youth gets the best of you, maybe you shouldn’t take things so damn seriously. And as a filmmaker, you of all people should appreciate an experiment like this, because it is through EDITING that a film story is told. If you can’t see that, then you’ve got a LOT to learn about film and life. I chose to tell this story by editing the scenes differently, because I wanted to see how the outcome would affect me as a viewer. If you don’t like it - TOUGH!!!
Do you think Quentin’s never done something like this, or doesn’t appreciate something like this? Quentin makes movies, NOT works of art like CITIZEN KANE or films of the Italian Neo-Realist period or the French New Wave, etc. His movies are ABOUT movies and the process that which they were made.
Just because you’re entitled to your opinions doesn’t mean you have the right to degrade me for what I choose to do with MY DVDs. No one likes an asshole, so you should put that attitude in check, for your own good.
So, in return, little girl, you too can FUCK OFF and GROW UP!!!
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hey goatfish or whateve, do u think you could make another cut aswell. like this. have the opening of the normal cut but after she gets shot in the head cut to the “looked dead didnt i but i wasnt” speech and then the title seqence and chapter 1 or have the shoot in the head then do the title sequence then before chapter 1 have the looked dead didnt i, well i wasnt bit. cause i have allways loved that part and think 1 of the two places would work great. and then all the usual stuff like leaving out the cliffhanger ending about the kid and the plane with the list writing.
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[quote=“MistyDawn”]
[color=Purple] Being an actual filmmaker, this is a subject I care about.[/quote]
And so am I, probably LONGER than you, since you’re only 20 years old (according to your profile) and I am 35!!!
Before your ignorance & arrogance of youth gets the best of you, maybe you shouldn’t take things so damn seriously. And as a filmmaker, you of all people should appreciate an experiment like this, because it is through EDITING that a film story is told. If you can’t see that, then you’ve got a LOT to learn about film and life. I chose to tell this story by editing the scenes differently, because I wanted to see how the outcome would affect me as a viewer. If you don’t like it - TOUGH!!!
Do you think Quentin’s never done something like this, or doesn’t appreciate something like this? Quentin makes movies, NOT works of art like CITIZEN KANE or films of the Italian Neo-Realist period or the French New Wave, etc. His movies are ABOUT movies and the process that which they were made.
Just because you’re entitled to your opinions doesn’t mean you have the right to degrade me for what I choose to do with MY DVDs. No one likes an asshole, so you should put that attitude in check, for your own good.
So, in return, little girl, you too can FUCK OFF and GROW UP!!!
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That’s all good and well, but I thought Kill Bill was supposed to be artistic???
[quote=“Ify”]That’s all good and well, but I thought Kill Bill was supposed to be artistic???[/quote]
Depends on what you mean by artistic. Any creative process can be considered artistic. But do I hold KILL BILL in the same regard as I hold CITIZEN KANE, Roberto Rosellini’s OPEN CITY, Kurosawa’s SEVEN SAMURAI, or Leone’s ONCE UPON A TIME IN THES WEST, the answer is no. But the film as a whole comes very close to Leone’s film, for me, in emotional impact, epic scope and overall style.
For me, it is artistic in how Tarantino took, borrowed or paid homage to various disparite B movie sources and linked them up into one cohesive story. And that is very difficult to do successfully.
[quote=“Spaghetti Western”]hey goatfish or whateve, do u think you could make another cut aswell. like this. have the opening of the normal cut but after she gets shot in the head cut to the “looked dead didnt i but i wasnt” speech and then the title seqence and chapter 1 or have the shoot in the head then do the title sequence then before chapter 1 have the looked dead didnt i, well i wasnt bit. cause i have allways loved that part and think 1 of the two places would work great. and then all the usual stuff like leaving out the cliffhanger ending about the kid and the plane with the list writing.
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That’s interesting that you mentioned that. Because one of my close friends wants me to do a cut just like you mentioned above. When I have the time, I’ll do that for him.
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[quote=“IL_Buono”]
i’ve heard from about 2343 different places that it’ll be called the “Ultimate Edition”
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[color=Blue][color=Red]So have I…in fact Ive asked for it as a xmas pressie ;D took some begging, i tell ya!!! is it OK for me to say I LOVE kill bill and would NEVER EVER dream of editing the genuis ones masterpiece?!?!?!?!?!?! ;D its perfect as it is!!! 
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[color=Purple]i wasnt complaing i was stating what i thought, and im not a loser because i have my opinion. thanks.
Could you please stop this shit? I visit this thread every day and I hope there’s some news about a full Kill Bill version and what do I get? Some fellows starting shit on each other. Please, could we come back to the actual topic? Thanks!
[quote=“Grindhouse-Ezekiel”]
Could you please stop this shit? I visit this thread every day and I hope there’s some news about a full Kill Bill version and what do I get? Some fellows starting shit on each other. Please, could we come back to the actual topic? Thanks!
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The same goes for the “Inglorious Bastards News” on the Tarantino/Buzz sub-section. C’mon guys!!
Which volume is better, which volume has more violence, which one has more dialogues…now that’s getting on my fucking nerves! I have always looked at Kill Bill as ONE movie, a LONG movie, that HAD to be splitted in volumes! I absolutely disagree with those who say that both volumes are different - 1. one is violent, and 2. is about love. Well, when Kiddo kills Budd and Elle - where the fuck do these people find love? The first part of Vol. 2 is just like whole Vol. 1, but the Bill scene is definetly about love. THAT IS ONE MOVIE! Damn, I just get angry at all those fucking rewievers, damn them! I really hope that at least some will agree! And Tarantino is a goddamn genius.
Hey Bleach, I agree with you! You are definitely right. KILL BILL is one movie, the fat Weinsteins just chopped it into two volumes because of the good ol’ benjamins and nobody in the world can tell me Tarantino was happy with that decision, but he said “OK” because he wanted to keep all the scenes he liked so much (Pai Mei, Budd’s chef…). I See no difference in both volumes. Both are about emotions and love, both are also about violence and revenge. And everybody who considerls one of the volumes better than the other one, is a dumb ass. Sorry too say that, but its just like cutting THRILLER: A CRUEL PICTURE in two volumes and telling me the first one’s bout rape the second bout revenge. Thats bullshit. KILL BILL is one movie, sadly it was chopped into two for cinema release. GOddamnit
but you said it yourself: if it was one movie, they would’ve had to cut a lot of stuff out, so the splitting was good. What i dont like, is that they took so much time, they should’ve just waited 4 weeks for volume 2 instead its almost a year. that was crap
Yes, Kill Bill is technically one movie, but you guys have it all wrong. Maybe it was already supposed to be like that or maybe it was because of the actual split, but Volume 1 and Volume 2 have two distinct seperate styles. Volume 1 is more action oriented and doesn’t really have much of a plot at all, while Volume 2 relies more on story and dialogue, and is really about the emotions of all the characters. I think that if KB had been released as one movie then everything would have felt more connected and you probably wouldn’t really feel satisfied just watching one half at a time, but the way QT edited it, each Volume works as a film in itself and it also works as one film overall when you combine the volumes. If QT had just gone “chop chop” and just released each half without really doing any editing, then those arguments would be valid. But we all know that KB was never going to be a 3 hour 45 minute film, and so QT most likely added more substance to each part to make them stand on their own.
edit: this was posted at the same time as Seb’s post