[quote]Some kids are thick… and wouldn’t be able to handle films like Kill Bill[/quote]… what a load of crap.
Some of the adults I know, couldn’t handle Kill Bill, and they’re not ‘thick’. It has absolutely fuck all to do with what a person can ‘handle’. A rating system is in place because there should be restrictions on what kind of violent imagery children should see. If my I don’t want to show my 9 and 4 year old the image of a woman slicing someone’s head off, it certainly doesn’t mean because they are thick.
Who else in here has children. What are your views on this. Would you force your taste in movies down the neck of a 6 year old little girl and are you too planning on taking a child under 8 to see Inglourious Basterds…
[quote=“Cyd”]
… what a load of crap.
Some of the adults I know, couldn’t handle Kill Bill, and they’re not ‘thick’. It has absolutely fuck all to do with what a person can ‘handle’. A rating system is in place because there should be restrictions on what kind of violent imagery children should see. If my I don’t want to show my 9 and 4 year old the image of a woman slicing someone’s head off, it certainly doesn’t mean because they are thick.
Who else in here has children. What are your views on this. Would you force your taste in movies down the neck of a 6 year old little girl and are you too planning on taking a child under 8 to see Inglourious Basterds…
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Geoi didn’t say she was forcing her kid to see it. She said her kid was excited to see it. And why take away the opportunity to see it because some people think violent imagery or foul language will warp a child, when sooner or later they’ll be exposed to that and the like anyway. It all comes down to again, personal preference. Some people prefer to censor their kids and other might prefer to let them experience things for themselves, let them make up their own minds. Your kids, your rules.
How come my 9 year old isn’t excited to see it… because it just doesn’t crop up in conversation. I don’t sit down with him while he’s doing his spellings and say ‘Hey, son, good news, Quentin Tarantino has a new movie coming out’
I used to watch and talk a lot about movies with my dad and mom as a kid. So me and my brother were always excited about new stuff and not cause our parents used to force her to watch the trailers, or read the critics, or force us to go the theaters with them. It’s just that when you’re a kid, and close to your parents, you’re always influenced by their tastes. And if your daddy or your mommy loves this or that and share it with you, then you become interested in the same thing (at least for a while, some kids decide to change their taste when they’re teenagers).
Kids often listen to the same music as their parents for a while and often watch the same movies too. So if Geoi might watch IB trailer over the internet or on TV and if her kid is around, why shouldn’t she be excited too ? I mean, it’s all natural.
Parents who prefer to censor a certain type of movies, violent or whatever to their kids, would sure not watch trailers with their kids. And parents who aren’t close to their kids, would not talk about movies at all.
I don’t think the whole violence thing is just something you can theorize that easy : like violent movies make violent kids. It depends on the kids, on how you do introduce violence to them (it’s just fiction from movies, or it’s bad-don’t do it, and so on). Kids can take violence as just a movie thing, or can be excited if they’re not allowed to watch violent movies. Repressed kids are more likely to be attracted by violence in a dangerous way. That has been proved.
Then of course, kids shouldn’t watch every violent movies. There are different degrees of violence. But a war movie, or a gangster movie isn’t alawys bad. I’ve not became a violent person at all. While I used to watch bloody vikings or pirates movies, or old gangster movies. Of course I could only watch Scream and slashers at 10 and Clockwork Orange at 14. But it’s not a bad choice.
EDIT : does your kid love war movies, Cyd ? Cause of course he/she won’t be more excited with IB if she/already dislikes or ignores the genre. Maybe Geoi’s girl loves and is used to watch war movies. I used to be as a kid and I was excited by any new war movies. And it didn’t seem sick or bad from my parents to let me watch them with my bro.
I think we both know, Cyber-Lil, IB is not going to be your average war movie LOL
I haven’t read the script so I cannot really reckon how violent the movie will be. But sure it’ll be violent. But I don’t know… hum I have to think what the most violent film I watched as a kid…
The thing is, what’s really disturbing in violence is not really the blood (well, only when it’s gory or trash). It’s more the psychological dimension. That’s why I was allowed to watch bloody genre movies, like war movies, vikings, pirates or gangster. But slasher or horror movies are dealing with this scaring psychological side. They’re can be seen as sick. Blood isn’t.
But Tarantino isn’t much about psychological violence. He’s more into blood, flashing violence. And IB will be more like that macho thing : the more blood, the more exciting. Kill Bill vol 2 was more into a small degree of psychological violence or at least the whole My-name-is-Buck-and-I’m-here-to-fuck scene was disturbing, even for me. And it’s not violent, you know. It’s all psychological.
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The thing is, what’s really disturbing in violence is not really the blood (well, only when it’s gory or trash). It’s more the psychological dimension. That’s why I was allowed to watch bloody genre movies, like war movies, vikings, pirates or gangster. But slasher or horror movies are dealing with this scaring psychological side. They’re can be seen as sick. Blood isn’t.[/quote]
When I was young, that retard kid getting his head caved in in Platoon was more disturbing than anything I’ve ever seen in a horror movie, haha. I would watch horror and slasher movies every weekend and not have an effect on me at all…well except for the Exorcist, but that only had an effect on me when I saw it again when I was in my teens. Jesus but that’ll keep you awake at night if you’re watching it in a dark house on your own. ahh
Yeah, some slashers aren’t that psychological, well most of them actually, ahah. But horror movies like The Exorcist or Carrie are more scaring than Platoon or Kill Bill for example. Depends on the type of horror movies. But you know, they know how to use your weak and primitive fears. That’s what I call psychological. Like the devil in The Exorcist.
A kid can’t get the psychological side behind a war movie, like jews killing nazis. What does he even know about the WWII ? Holocaust is something else, again more psychological cause it deals with a very disturbing image of the body, even for a kid (cause he cannot get the unhumain side of the Holocaust).
Maybe that pic of Rihanna beaten up by Chris Brown is the most scaring thing kids can see right now; And it’s not from movies but from tabloids. Ahah. Well, no, sorry, it’s not funny and I was really shocked with that pic but it’s off-topic.
[quote=“Kinick”]
When I was young, that retard kid getting his head caved in in Platoon was more disturbing than anything I’ve ever seen in a horror movie, haha. I would watch horror and slasher movies every weekend and not have an effect on me at all…well except for the Exorcist, but that only had an effect on me when I saw it again when I was in my teens. Jesus but that’ll keep you awake at night if you’re watching it in a dark house on your own. ahh
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lol definitely know what you mean. It has a lot to do with the fact that violence in slasher movies or horror don’t mean anything, but a movie like platoon where the characters are real and raw and the violence feels jarring is very disturbing. I’ve always cringed more from the scene in Taxi Driver where DeNiro raises his bloody finger to his head and does the gun thing than the entire friday the 13th series.
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lol definitely know what you mean. It has a lot to do with the fact that violence in slasher movies or horror don’t mean anything, but a movie like platoon where the characters are real and raw and the violence feels jarring is very disturbing. I’ve always cringed more from the scene in Taxi Driver where DeNiro raises his bloody finger to his head and does the gun thing than the entire friday the 13th series.
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haha, yeah. Joe Pesci’s portrayal of Tommy in Goodfellas was more frightening than any horror movie villain, for instance.
But anyway… yeah, no idea how I’m going to watch this film for the first time. 
[quote=“Kinick”]But anyway… yeah, no idea how I’m going to watch this film for the first time.
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Glad you said that, I thought I was the only one who didn’t have the whole thing planned out
[quote=“Noir_Fiction”]
lol definitely know what you mean. It has a lot to do with the fact that violence in slasher movies or horror don’t mean anything, but a movie like platoon where the characters are real and raw and the violence feels jarring is very disturbing. I’ve always cringed more from the scene in Taxi Driver where DeNiro raises his bloody finger to his head and does the gun thing than the entire friday the 13th series.
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Ahah, though you cannot understand the point behind a war movie or such movie as Taxi Driver as a kid. You can only be disturbed by it when you’re old enough to understand it.
[quote=“cyber-lili”]
Ahah, though you cannot understand the point behind a war movie or such movie as Taxi Driver as a kid. You can only be disturbed by it when you’re old enough to understand it.
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Nothing was disturbing to me in Taxi Driver. I don’t even like the film that much, save for DeNiro’s awesome performance. What’s disturbing in it? Beats me.
Whereas a film like Platoon or Goodfellas, you don’t need to understand underlying themes or issues to feel the impact of the scene we mentioned for example. If they pack a powerful enough punch they can reach you even when you’re a kid. Not all the time of course but when you feel for character’s or a situation on screen it’s only natural…if you’re paying attention to some degree, like watching a film on TV with your oul boy back in the day.
[quote=“Cyd”]
How come my 9 year old isn’t excited to see it… because it just doesn’t crop up in conversation. I don’t sit down with him while he’s doing his spellings and say ‘Hey, son, good news, Quentin Tarantino has a new movie coming out’
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I would. If I had a kid I’ll be like: "Great news son, Quentin Tarantino’s new film ‘Inglourious Basterds’ is going to be out in a few weeks, and if you don’t like it, you’re gay."
And then he’d call child services on me and he’d live in a foster home full of rich people, where I would soon move in and live off of their crumbs.
Scene.
[quote=“cyber-lili”]
A kid can’t get the psychological side behind a war movie, like jews killing nazis. What does he even know about the WWII ? Holocaust is something else, again more psychological cause it deals with a very disturbing image of the body, even for a kid (cause he cannot get the unhumain side of the Holocaust).
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That’s why I ordered that book on WWII. So I can teach her about the war, and why it was fought, and what the Nazis did that would warrant the sort of action taken against them that we’re going to see in IB. The reason it’s important for me to do this, is because it is a fictional story that takes place during a real era. Plus, we’re just about finished with our current book, “the Hunt for Red October”, so it’s great to have our next selection ready to go.
[quote=“Lili”]Maybe Geoi’s girl loves and is used to watch war movies. I used to be as a kid and I was excited by any new war movies. And it didn’t seem sick or bad from my parents to let me watch them with my bro.[/quote]
Yeah. My stepdad has a WWII DVD boxset, and she sits in his chair with him on Saturday mornings, and they watch war movies together. Or westerns. She loves them both. I will admit that she probably only likes them so much because of the time we spend together watching them, or the time she spends with her PaPa watching them. But she would rather watch a war movie, or a good old western than watch Spongebob, and that’s amazing to me.
She also loves horror flicks. I take her to the video store to pick out a movie, and she heads straight to the horror section. Sometimes I beg her to get a kids movie, and sometimes she does, but she says she doesn’t want to get anymore kids movies because they’re “boring”. Now my daughter does not cuss at all, and doesn’t have any violent tendencies whatsoever. If she did, I would not be so relaxed about what I let her watch. She has her own mind, and her own tastes. I never encouraged her to watch scary movies. She saw me watching Evil Dead II, and I would pause it when she came in the room, and she begged and begged for me to let her watch it. I finally let her sit with me and watch it.
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Yeah, exactly what i said before : kids often loves what their parents do. I had forgotten this, westerns, awesome for kids, I could watch them for hours !
And it’s pretty cool your daughter is already interested in the war. My grandfather is very much into history too, and so was my bro, that’s why we also got interested in WWII pretty young. It’s important for kids to know that not too old. I’m working at a school with kids, as a monitor or whatever it’s called here in the USA. And I had to help some 14 years old kids (even 15) to revise their history lesson and it was about the Holocaust. God, they knew nothing and I was so embarassed that they asked me why Hitler hated the jews, that they didn’t believe that jews did really die in camps and all. Of course they were kids with real difficulties at school and not every kids are like them, but still. They’re 14-15 and still ignore about the most catastrophic even from the century. I cannot understand this.
Astounding. Could someone else from America explain what theaters here are like?
Okay. Cyd, make an effort to udnerstand that USA aren’t Europe and they have specific rules, which are explained before by other users too.
Now stop mentionning Geoi’s private life or insulting her or whatever. I might not get the reference cause I’m not fluent in english but please, stop all that.
Back on topic. Thanks.
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i started watching horror films when i was 6 and that didn’t fuck me up… my parents explained me the difference between a movie and real life and that’s that.
in France, we don’t have the same ratings; it is either nc-12 or nc-16. when i was younger i was so jealous of the R-rating. but it’s fun, in France, you need fake id-s to see certain films, so when you’re in, that’s twice the fun, ahahah
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now you got me curious ;D