QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Dead Zed » Fri May 06, 2011 4:58 pm

So, what are your thoughts on the script (no big spoilers)? I've read about 1/3 and stopped, don't want to spoil any more... This was actually my first time reading a script and from what I've seen I thought it was a pretty good read, without a dull moment. Not terribly original or groundbreaking (remember I don't know what happens later), but few westerns are and I can easily see this becoming one of my favorites, me being a huge fan of the genre, love practically all of them. Also, let's not forget that spaghetti westerns are very heavily reliant on aural/visual presentation which we cannot get from the script...
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby hotpinksky » Fri May 06, 2011 6:34 pm

This script reads more like a novel than any of his other scripts. Lots more background or back story than most of his other which makes it interesting. And Waltz should kiss the ground QT :-* walks on because it is a great role for him. I think this is probably his most personal script to date. You can tell by the writing that he feels very strongly about this story.

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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Claytron83 » Fri May 06, 2011 7:44 pm

Hey guys,

Any chance you could email me the PDF? clayton.swartz@gmail.com

I'd be forever in your debt.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby TheBaylen » Fri May 06, 2011 9:16 pm

So I am a returning user (Beja87 or something like that), but it had been such a long time that I forgot my password, ugh. Anyways, I've got a new email and it's glad to have some Tarantino news circulating the air again. If anybody has the pdf, send me a DM please, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Col. Crazy Kenneth » Sat May 07, 2011 12:39 am

various sources are talking about Will Smith possibly playing Django.

Thoughts?

I think he is a great actor and he looks young enough. And he will bring box office dollars, which will ensure Tarantino's high status in Hollywood.

http://www.slashfilm.com/smith-frontrun ... unchained/
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby hotpinksky » Sat May 07, 2011 3:50 am

I kind wish he would go with someone a little less well-known just because Will Smith is the first actor people think of if you say we need a black actor for this role (well besides Denzel). Its an obvious choice and QT usually doesnt make obvious choices which I like. It makes his work more interesting.

That being said Will is a good actor and Im sure he'll do a great job. I doubt QT will be able to afford him though. WIll Smith gets like what $20 million a film...
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Col. Crazy Kenneth » Sat May 07, 2011 4:07 am

1. if he is known or unknown does not matter. what matters is if he is the right choice artistically. Quentin knows what he is doing, always has when it comes to casting.

2. He will go lower on the $ to star in a QT picture, if he knows what's good for him. Starring in a QT picure is a career boost.
Example: Except Uma Thruman, none of the cast recieved any money for starring in Kill Bill, not even David Carradine.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby bea kiddo » Sat May 07, 2011 5:22 am

If QT really does want Will Smith, then I believe he could make it work, but knowing Will Smith's work and the general qualities he brings to his roles, I don't really like him for a serious QT role like Django.

I initially was (and still am) really hoping that he would go more along the lines of one of the actors from The Wire such as Idris Elba (even though I'd prefer an American), or Michael K. WIlliams, who is now on Boardwalk Empire .

I say this based on what we know so far about the story. I haven't yet been able to get a copy of the script. If anyone has it, could you PLEASE PM me??? I've been looking all over for it, dying to read it.

Edit: Emailing works too. ssias@usc.edu
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Mr.Pink » Sat May 07, 2011 9:31 am

Hopefully it will be a lot less Jewish than his last disaster of a film.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Dead Zed » Sat May 07, 2011 9:32 am

Not my favorite choice, but I think he's a good actor who would do good and bring in the bucks. Aside from the people already mentioned, I think Chiwetel Ejiofor (Salt, Redbelt, Children of Men) could also fit the part...

And to all the people looking for the script, just search for it on filestube.com or some other filehosting search engine.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Mr.Pink » Sat May 07, 2011 9:34 am

Dead Zed wrote:And to all the people looking for the script, just search for it on filestube.com or some other filehosting search engine.

What the fuck is th point in that?? Its like jerking off to a chick right before you fuck her.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Dead Zed » Sat May 07, 2011 10:52 am

That's how we roll.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby pedrozrl » Sat May 07, 2011 11:52 am

can anyone send me the script, please?? thanks in advance

my mail is: pd_ruigomez@hotmail.com
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Col. Crazy Kenneth » Sat May 07, 2011 1:11 pm

a german article on Django Unchained, written by me: http://www.viceland.com/blogs/at/2011/0 ... teht-fest/

for some reason i cannot post or comment in the german section...
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby roulette67 » Sat May 07, 2011 10:52 pm

Dead Zed wrote: I think Chiwetel Ejiofor (Salt, Redbelt, Children of Men) could also fit the part...


Excellent choice. He has such a wide range of acting ability. I kinda feel like Smith would be a distraction, rather than a plus to the film. Yeah, Smith is good, 'seven pounds', '7 degrees of separation'.

I just wonder if he can 'become' more of the part and less of the star.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby roulette67 » Sat May 07, 2011 10:55 pm

Mr.Pink wrote:
Dead Zed wrote:And to all the people looking for the script, just search for it on filestube.com or some other filehosting search engine.

What the fuck is th point in that?? Its like jerking off to a chick right before you fuck her.



I agree. I don't want to read the script. It'll spoil the film orgasm I am seeking by seeing it on the big screen. No preconceived notions, not knowing what comes next. That's what I'm looking forwards too.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Col. Crazy Kenneth » Sat May 07, 2011 11:24 pm

roulette67 wrote:
Mr.Pink wrote:
Dead Zed wrote:And to all the people looking for the script, just search for it on filestube.com or some other filehosting search engine.

What the fuck is th point in that?? Its like jerking off to a chick right before you fuck her.



I agree. I don't want to read the script. It'll spoil the film orgasm I am seeking by seeing it on the big screen. No preconceived notions, not knowing what comes next. That's what I'm looking forwards too.


true.

and I LOLed hard at Mr. Pink's comment. XD
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Ify » Mon May 09, 2011 3:47 pm

I really hope Omar Doom, Eli Roth, or any of QT's other mates - who bring fuck all to a film if not serve to weaken it - aren't in Django Unchained. For me, the integrity of IB (and DP) was tarnished by having jokers like those two in them. It did used to be the case that QT chose the RIGHT actors for the right roles, but after DP and IB, it's just not the complete case anymore.

Also, I'm a bit sceptical of people's reviews of the script at the moment. I remember when the script for IB leaked, and there were some rave reviews about it, with QT apparently back on form with his trademark dialogue. However, it ended up being the least Tarantinoesque dialogue I've ever heard. I'm not saying it wasn't good, it just wasn't classic QT in terms of word play and wit. It was mostly serious in tone. I thought KB's dialogue was vastly superior anyhow. Even QT said it was the greatest thing he'd ever written, but I thought it was far from it.

IB was a disappointment, albeit not a huge one, but I did feel underwhelmed nonetheless. It WASN'T "the masterpiece" it was hyped to be. It actually felt like a poor man's Kill Bill. With that said, I do not have any sort of expectation from Django Unchained. I would be doing myself a disservice. Therefore, I won't be reading the script (maybe the occasional bits of dialogue), and my excitement will be muted.

The news about Will Smith isn't really a surprise. I think he's doing the same thing he did with Pitt in IB.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Sebastian » Mon May 09, 2011 7:34 pm

and with Smith they will bring Sony on board (actually vice versa, from a studio point of view), and I say it is about time Smith did some proper movies again. All he has been doing is one man shows and big budget half assed pop corn bullcrap, so I hope he will step up to the challenge and act out a Tarantino character. I am sure he can do it, the question is if he has the maturity and the balls for it. Who knows, it might be his oscar role
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby roulette67 » Mon May 09, 2011 7:41 pm

I agree with Seb. Smith has been depending upon charisma and charm to get him thru his fluff movies. 'with the exception of seven pounds.'

If he takes it seriously and acts his proverbial ASS off, he could make it work. You can't phone in a Tarantino part. His characters are too complex.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby hotpinksky » Mon May 09, 2011 9:27 pm

Will Smith will get people in the seats which considering the plotline it will be hard to get the general public (non-Tarantino fans) in. And you have to admit the idea of Will Smith and Samuel Jackson at odds with each other is intriguing esp when you throw in Waltz. Is it his best work Eh who cares even at his worst he is still more interesting than 80% of the filmakers working today. I'll take the worst he has to offer over 90% of the films being produced today.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Kazushi80 » Mon May 09, 2011 10:57 pm

Sebastian wrote:and with Smith they will bring Sony on board (actually vice versa, from a studio point of view), and I say it is about time Smith did some proper movies again. All he has been doing is one man shows and big budget half assed pop corn bullcrap, so I hope he will step up to the challenge and act out a Tarantino character. I am sure he can do it, the question is if he has the maturity and the balls for it. Who knows, it might be his oscar role



according to Deadline Sony is on board now. Will Smith is still pondering ...

http://www.deadline.com/2011/05/foreign ... ried-hard/
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby hotpinksky » Tue May 10, 2011 12:52 am

With Sony onboard I'm sure management can browbeat him into signing on :D
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby tjagolf33 » Tue May 10, 2011 8:25 pm

Robert Knepper (T-Bag from Prison Break) has GOT to play Calvin Candie. He'd be PERFECT.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Pete » Tue May 10, 2011 9:23 pm

Ify: I agree with you on the friends casting too. That didnt help his last two films at all.

After reading the new script I can say that its one of QTs best as far as whats on the page. Its really not like anything hes done so far either. Its a western style adventure story set in the slavery era South during the 1800s. So no, People arent gonna be talking about Royales with Cheese and making references to Lee Marvin and Trix (haha). But I really enjoyed the way the people spoke in this story, and its neat to hear QTs take on that old fashioned wordplay. The way Id describe it is: if QT was a popular novel writer back then, this would be his new paperback western or southern. So as far as the dialogue/writing goes, its beautifully done. There were certain parts (very very few) that I wasnt completely thrilled by, but those things can always be worked out when theyre actually filmed.

Now how the film is cast/shot/scored etc is another thing. I really dont know if QT plans on making it a huge epic or a more medium sized piece, but I have no doubt it will be an exciting film when its all done. Its def got alot of juicy roles for actors to get into. I hope QT brings back some familiar faces along with new ones.

P.S. After hearing about Will Smith as Django I went back and read it again visualizing him talking/acting the part and it definitely worked great. As we know even if youre not a huge fan of an actor, just the fact theyre working with QT can make them seem 100% cooler to you.

If this does actually star Smith and Waltz, wow that will be very neat to see.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby jonitapani » Tue May 10, 2011 9:32 pm

I've read about 50 pages now. I. Can't. Fucking. Stop.
PS. QT wrote this the role of the Bounty Hunter with Waltz in his mind, that's for sure.
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Pete » Tue May 10, 2011 9:46 pm

jonitapani wrote:I've read about 50 pages now. I. Can't. Fucking. Stop.
PS. QT wrote this the role of the Bounty Hunter with Waltz in his mind, that's for sure.


Thats a bingo. Jew Hunter....Bounty Hunter. :D
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby jonitapani » Tue May 10, 2011 9:56 pm

Pete wrote:
jonitapani wrote:I've read about 50 pages now. I. Can't. Fucking. Stop.
PS. QT wrote this the role of the Bounty Hunter with Waltz in his mind, that's for sure.


Thats a bingo. Jew Hunter....Bounty Hunter. :D


Ha, didn't notice that before :D
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Col. Crazy Kenneth » Wed May 11, 2011 12:22 am

Question for anybody who has read the script: (like Pete)

What FEEL does the script have? Is it more mature and serious / quasi-serious (like Ingourious Basterds) or is more easy-going and geek-ish, like many parts of Kill Bill?
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Re: QTs New Film: DJANGO UNCHAINED (THE "SOUTHERN")

Postby Pete » Wed May 11, 2011 12:54 am

Col. Crazy Kenneth wrote:Question for anybody who has read the script: (like Pete)

What FEEL does the script have? Is it more mature and serious / quasi-serious (like Ingourious Basterds) or is more easy-going and geek-ish, like many parts of Kill Bill?


Its definitely closer in tone/style to Basterds. Its like a blend of the spaghetti western/hixploitation/slave movie genres as seen through QTs eyes. But it really had to be more serious considering the racism aspect and the N word which is spoken freely throughout. That being said, it does still keep its adventure/bounty hunter edge and also has some scenes that are very funny. One in particular made me laugh out loud as I was reading it, just cuz of how QT wrote it. Its like a screwball comedy bit.
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