Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Dex » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:42 pm

So current rumours are that Michelle Rodriguez, Jonah Hill, and Robert Deniro have been cast in Machete.

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/16770

As always I'll hold off believing it until Harry Knowles confirms it.
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Ordell Rodriguez » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:45 pm

Holy shit I just read that, Jonah Hill in Machete! A very foreign fucking notion but whatever, I'd like to see it. Robert Deniro as a senator sounds more appropriate but even then...
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by nublob » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:11 pm

Robert De Niro AND Jonah Hill in a movie together WILD!

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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by *G* » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:25 pm

I just want Cheech damn it. Is this movie going to go the same route as the trailer, or something different without the tears in the film, etc?

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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Dex » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:47 pm

Don't know for sure but I'm guessing it will keep the Grindhouse look.
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by nublob » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:28 pm

Entertainment Weekly is reporting contradicting rumors

http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009/07/de-ni ... chete.html

One "insider"  is saying that Lindsay Lohan and Seagal have been cast

A studio exec Eleanor Avellon? is saying it isnt true
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by *G* » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:39 pm

Is Jeff Fahey and Cheech still in it is what I am worried about.

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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Ordell Rodriguez » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:53 pm

nublob wrote: One "insider"  is saying that Lindsay Lohan and Seagal have been cast
I don't know which one would be fucking worse!
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by *G* » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:01 pm

Ordell Rodriguez wrote: I don't know which one would be fucking worse!
Atleast it would be cool to see Danny kick Seagal's a$$.

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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Dex » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:04 pm

According to CHUD all people mentioned are in discussions and none are official. De Niro is the most up in the air at this point. I gotta figure if they're talking to the likes of Lohan, Seagal, and Michelle Rodriguez chances are deals will be made. I can't really see any of them turning down a role with a director people have heard of at this point in their careers.

They also claim the film starts shooting in two weeks. Robert De Niro and Jonah Hill seem unlikely to me but De Niro has been making some weird choices these days. Who knows. If Rodriguez really wants Lohan her people would be retarded to let her pass on it. It's hard to call though, not having read the script or really knowing anything about the characters most of these people would play.

EDIT: Got a copy of the script but it doesn't look real to me (only 87 pages, not dated but was posted in May, and it's a very clean straight from the screenwriting software PDF copy). I'll read a bit and look into it a bit before I post it. I've never actually read a legitimate Rodriguez script though so I don't really have anything to compare it to.
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Ordell Rodriguez » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:04 pm

Love to read it Dex if you'll post it.

I have only read two of his scripts, Planet Terror and El Mariachi. They're very simple affairs, not to say they're badly written, just more cut and dry than a lot of the other stuff I've read.
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Dex » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:18 pm

Here it is:

http://www.freewebs.com/caydemfalls/Mac ... Robert.pdf

Seems to be legit now that I've read through it a bit and glanced at some of his other works. Clearly not a final draft though.

If it is real I dig his style. So many of pro scripts tend to be overly purple. It's refreshing to see a dude who keeps it bare bones and just tells the story.
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by jeje1250 » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:21 pm

Weird rumors but the french site Allociné.fr claims Robert de Niro is set to play the bad guy in Machete !

It's in french but I post the link anyway : http://www.allocine.fr/article/ficheart ... 76078.html

They're also mentionning Michelle Rodriguez (which is believable) and Jonah Hill (a lot less believable) ! Maybe it's only rumors but Allociné is used to be a pretty serious website...

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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Ordell Rodriguez » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:27 pm

Dex wrote: If it is real I dig his style. So many of pro scripts tend to be overly purple. It's refreshing to see a dude who keeps it bare bones and just tells the story.
Thanks, can't wait to read it.

I know what you mean by purple but I have never heard a script called that. What does it mean?
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Dex » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:12 am

It's sort of the same thing. Being overly descriptive to the point where you're kind of talking down to your audience. Usually it's describing character emotions and camera too much. Basically directing via the script. It's not such a bad thing if you the writer plans to direct but actors can find it annoying as it can take away their ability to interpret the character on their own.

The trick is to be subtle so you as the writer can sort of influence the actors and the director into seeing things the way you want them to. Robert seems to write like a lazy spec-writer. Which is okay for him because at the writing stage he's the only one who really needs to know those little details that are left out of the script.
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Ordell Rodriguez » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:15 am

I assumed as much but wanted to be sure. Thanks.

If you want some serious directing from the script check out the first couple of  pages of There Will Be Blood. PTA knows what he's doing.
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Lt. BioBasterd » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:31 am

All writer/directors have their own writing methods. Robert isin't even directing this script. El Mariachi was the only script that contained camera angles and even some spfx cues.

Joseph Mankiewicz once said. Filmmakers should be directing the actor and not the lenses. I partially agree, but Paul Thomas Anderson is heavy with both. He's a fine writer and a great director, better director than Mankiewicz for sure. PT writes everything from important angles to scene beats, and transitions - the whole movie is always on the script. If you hear the commentary for Boogie Nights, Don Cheadle teases him about his writing.
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Dex » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:42 am

Just dug into There Will be Blood a bit. It's hard to compare to the Rodriguez scripts I've been scanning today as TWBB is clearly the finished/polished version they sent to the academy for award nomination while Robert's are very early rough drafts that he knows damn well will never be Oscar contenders.

I'd like to see a pre-shooting draft version of There Will be Blood. In fact, I might do some searching to see if I can find a shooting draft version of any film and an early "pre-studio" draft of it for comparison.

I'm considering starting a "Pro Scripts" thread in the screenwriting forum. Would anyone be interested in that?
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Lt. BioBasterd » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:46 am

I would. I like reading some scripts. I recently read the screenplay for "All About Eve", Mankiewicz was really a master screenwriter, his transitions are so smooth. Most writers use cut to, etc. Well Mankiewicz used things from scenes and he sort of transported you to the next scene. One great notable transition was in "A Letter To Three Wives", in the third segment with Linda Darnell, she stares off to a leaking pipe that drips to a bucket, and he uses that image to transition to her old apartment. He's really a unique writer.
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Eastern Beauty » Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:27 am

I hope the movie will be just like the trailer.
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Ordell Rodriguez » Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:58 am

Dex wrote: Just dug into There Will be Blood a bit. It's hard to compare to the Rodriguez scripts I've been scanning today as TWBB is clearly the finished/polished version they sent to the academy for award nomination while Robert's are very early rough drafts that he knows damn well will never be Oscar contenders.

I'd like to see a pre-shooting draft version of There Will be Blood. In fact, I might do some searching to see if I can find a shooting draft version of any film and an early "pre-studio" draft of it for comparison.

I'm considering starting a "Pro Scripts" thread in the screenwriting forum. Would anyone be interested in that?
All of his scripts, PTA, are insaneley detailed. He said it in the Boogie Nights commentary that the script should direct itself or something to that effect.

I'd love to read his raw, first first first drafts of his scripts. I wonder how similar they are in terms of their techinal specifics to the polished versions.

Def interested in such a topic.
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by me » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:54 pm

I hope this gets made. Right next to Thanksgiving this was my favorite trailer from Grindhouse.

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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Dex » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:54 pm

I think they should be filming pretty soon here.
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by moussemaker » Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:31 pm

:P Wtf? Lindsay Lohan?  :o

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/08/01 ... n-machete/

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Lindsay Lohan Confirms ‘Machete’ Movie

Lindsay Lohan has confirmed her part in the upcoming Grindhouse spin-off, Machete via Twitter (â€

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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by VikingWithNoName » Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:58 pm

Finally, Lindasy Lohan starring in a movie that actually is a movie.
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Post by Lt. BioBasterd » Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:35 pm

Lindsay has to work from the ground up. Her film career was about to sky rocket just before all the news tabloids ruined her. But she's a good actress when she cares.
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by Dex » Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:17 pm

Well, she gives the tabloids a lot to work with so you can't really blame them.

But yeah, I dig her as an actress most of the time so her and Robert together should be pretty cool. I still haven't read the Machete screenplay so I have no idea what role she might be playing. Prostitute with a heart of gold?
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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by me » Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:31 pm

Well thats BS. Who is she gonna play, a drunk driver? :)

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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by *G* » Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:51 pm

me wrote: Well thats BS. Who is she gonna play, a drunk driver? :)
Yeah I rather not have her in this movie. Is Denrio still rumored?

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Re: Is Rodriguez still making Machete?

Post by me » Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:12 pm

*G* wrote: Yeah I rather not have her in this movie. Is Denrio still rumored?
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/16950

Didn't even know Robert De Niro was rumored, thats kinda interesting. Jonah Hill? WTH?

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