Once Upon a Time in Mexico

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Part_Eggplant » Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:14 pm

El Miriachi was on IFC the other night, So fucking funny when the Hotel Manager dials the phone # in fast forward.  Kills me every time.  All 3 movies are completely different. Hard to call it a trilogy, and compare them all.

El Miriachi : Low Budget Indie Masterpiece ($7,000 budget - Unbelievable!!!)
Desperado :  Remake/Follow up. Much like the 1st movie with bigger cast / budget.
Once upon a Time.. : Big Budget Studio Ensemble Revenge picture.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by reptile » Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:21 pm

i think it's a nice movie, probably the best one out of the trilogy...even though rodriguez takes the story almost too seriously in a couple of situations...
johnny depp's character is completely unuseful, if not for his crow-like ending, i would have given him less space, really.
i loved the role given to enrique...absolutely fitting, i guess  ;D

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by stuck in the middle » Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:05 am

i agree. with so much time given to depp it almost doesnt feel like an El Mariachi movie
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Holiday » Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:36 am

i agree. with so much time given to depp it almost doesnt feel like an El Mariachi movie
And if they'd have given all of the time to Depp, the movie would've been great! What a shame... :P

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Sidewinder » Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:13 am

Yah exactly. The only reason I like this movie is cuz Depp is so fuckn cool in it.
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by stuck in the middle » Thu Feb 05, 2004 2:18 am

i would have loved if RR gave all the time to depp. but if he did that and said it was the last of the EL Mariachi's, id be dissapointed
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Spaghetti Western » Mon Feb 09, 2004 2:31 pm

i saw it and really liked it but are there ment to be subtitles cause like they were talking mexican and there were no subs.
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by stuck in the middle » Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:14 am

it depends. some parts they didnt subtitle some spanish and sometimes they did
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Dead_Nigga_Storage » Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:21 am

I hate it when they do that. Not all of the language is in subtitles...only the dialogue that is important to the plot and story. Fuck that, ALL of the foreign dialogue should be subtitled.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Puck » Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:13 am

Some of what was in Spanish, but not subtitled, was clearly understandable, even if you only marginally understand Spanish.  Rodriguez probably would have felt it an insult to the viewers' intelligence to include EVERY snippet.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Dead_Nigga_Storage » Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:47 am

Well, yeah. My bad, I meant besides the basic spanish. I was talking about movies in general.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by IL_Buono » Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:58 am

I saw this recently, and thought it was a very fuckin cool movie. It had loads of action and great characters, and it actually had a plot, unlike Desperado. Johnny Depp was great as Sands, that dude deserved much more screen time. Overall, a kick-ass movie with great music and hilarious scenes. One of my favorite parts is right after Sands gets his eyes ripped out, and he bumps his head while talking to the Mexican Kid.  ;D

One of my only problems with the movie is that the story often got too complex and El Mariachi was nowhere to be seen for much of the last 20 minutes of the movie. And I do also wish that there had been a GBU style shootout at the end, that would have kicked so much ass. I liked Mexico alot more than Desperado, but El Mariachi is still probably my favorite.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Spaghetti Western » Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:02 pm

no but seriosly nothing was subtitled so im like uh wtf
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by QTfightclub » Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:49 am

Were u watching a bootleg? cause i know there was a bootleg goin around w/ no subs, i dont think u can turn off the ones on the DVD, so...

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by stuck in the middle » Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:59 am

what region dvd do you have? it might have to do with that
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by QTfightclub » Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:29 am

Region 1.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Bullet » Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:30 am

He was asking Spaghetti Western, he didn't quote.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by QTfightclub » Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:35 am

Woops, sorry. My bad.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Spaghetti Western » Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:22 pm

lol im in Australia and its not even out so i got a copy from my friend and i guess he got it off the net.
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by stuck in the middle » Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:27 am

yaeh that might explain your problem
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by CPS » Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:30 am

There was a new topic about OUATIM:



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Sorry if this hasn't got anything to do with Quentin Tarantino, but does anybody know if the tune played by El Mariachi with the guitar he gets given in OUATIM at the start of the movie is in the soundtrack? I think that music rocks especially the part where it displays "Once upon a time in Mexico" on the screen!!!
If it isn't on the soundtrack, then could anyone tell me the name of the music he plays??



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I think thats the "Malaguena Salerosa" tune. Its on the soundtrack of "Kill Bill: Vol. 2", too, and I think its on "Once Upon a Time in Mexico", too. But go to amazon.com and make a soundcheck. Then you hear it.
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Ify » Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:48 pm

Can anyone tell me the name of the music that Antonio Banderas plays during the credit sequence in Once Upon a Time in Mexico? It peaks at the part where it shows "Once Upon a Time in Mexico" on the screen! It is not called "Malaguena-Salerosa - Chingon" or "Malaguena - Brian Setzer", it is not on the volume 2 OST or the OUATIM OST i dont think? Can anyone help??
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by CPS » Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:17 pm

Dangermouse posted in an other topic:


Once Upon A Time In Mexico and the reasons I hated it, but at the same time, really liked it.

The plot was alot confusing first watching it but I guess that was Robert putting a shit load of screenplays together so he could make his epic.

The acting was good as well. No complaints.

The story was all good and well.

What the fuck is up with all the fake scribs? Could he not get any so he uses crapy effects to replace them? I hated that. And the entire computer generated bullet holes in the wall. I understand why they did it in the building where the President stayed. But what about the hotel escape scene?


And the fake guns in the church? Why not just come back to it when you get the real guns. Why not just take care dialogue sequences real quick? I just didn’t understand that.


After his great Desperado he has gotten real sloppy and lazy. I saw El Mariachi couple nites ago on Starz and it wasn't all that good but at least it was a real movie and not a fuckin video game.



Now this isn't ROBERT RODRIGUEZ bashing. I just want a better understanding on why this movie was surrounding in CG effects instead of the ol' fashion visual effects lik the KB Team?
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by DangerMouse » Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:25 pm

Sry bout that. Mah Bad
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by CPS » Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:35 pm

No problem!

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by The Shepherd » Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:35 pm

in response to dangermouse:

i don't really know all that much about Robert Rodriguez, so i won't try to act like an expert or anything. i saw Once Upon a Time in Mexico also and i felt pretty much the same way you did (my review's on here somewhere). after i watched the movie i watched the special features and from what i gathered, RR's love of digital filming has been blown way out of proportion. he's beginning to take the George Lucas perspective where he basically relies on CGI way too much. i mean, fake guns, fake squibs, fake everything. at one point he even completely removed a stunt guy from a shot (where Salma Hayek is on top of that bus). i don't really like CGI at all (if used sparingly it can be very effective, but don't compose whole scenes with CGI *gag*). RR needs to go back to his filmmaking roots

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by stuck in the middle » Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:05 am

well one thing you may or may not know about robert is that he likes to make movies fast. he likes to make them ahead of schedule and under budget. this new technology that Lucas has shown him has allowed robert to, as he says, "create at the speed of thought". i had no idea most of that that stuff was CG until looking at the behind the scenes stuff so it didnt detract from the movie any.  johnny depp was only on shoot for nine days. working with a director for nine days. and he has a substantial role in the movie. so from that info right there you can tell that robert likes to move fast. CG has only helped him speed up the process more
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by IL_Buono » Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:28 am

the script was really weak (except for the cool one-liners) but the action was so awesome that i didn't care


and Desperado is the worst of the trilogy, it only had one good action scene and after the first 5 minutes it gets pretty boring

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by DangerMouse » Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:12 am

IL_Buono wrote: the script was really weak (except for the cool one-liners) but the action was so awesome that i didn't care


and Desperado is the worst of the trilogy, it only had one good action scene and after the first 5 minutes it gets pretty boring

When I first watched Desperado I had no idea who RR was. But I was interested in film making, while listening to the dialogue, it was really weak.
Cept for Steve & Quentin's lines were pretty cool. The film itself was stylish.
The action could have been alot better. And I felt like I got fucked over when we don't even see Bucho die. The whole last action scene doesn't exist. Thats bullshit!
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by IL_Buono » Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:16 am

did you watch it on tv or something? cuz im pretty sure you see him die in the uncut version...but it's been a while since i've seen it


i actually prefer the tv edit where you see the guns come out of his sleeves, and then a dark screen as you hear shots in the background.....i think it's much more stylish and almost Leone-like

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