Once Upon a Time in Mexico

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Tha_WOLF » Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:47 am

OUATIM is a great piece of work.I thought that it was one of the best complicated action movies I ever saw. I loved the cinematography and Johnny Depp is fuckin' hilarious. He makes this movie memorable

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Holiday » Thu Sep 25, 2003 2:20 am

He does. I saw it the other day, and I liked it a lot. The dropped the ball at the end in a serious way (not as much as they did with Desperado....which I liked), but it was good. I had some dreams of it being more like The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly, and having a Mexican Standoff between Sands, El M., and Barillo (sp?). It would've made the movie great, and I think it would be the right way to end the series. Too late now...

I thought it was good though. A very cool and entertaining movie.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Delfonics » Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:30 am

I know Rodriguez is a great friend of Quentin, but I thought this movie was shit. Compare an action scene of QT with one of Robert and you can see the canyon of difference and who's the smarter filmmaker. They grew up watching the same films, but Rodriguez' films seem to be getting worse, while Tarantino is still growing.
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by BadMotherFucker » Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:38 pm

1) Which action scenes of QTs are you talking about? He doesn't have any action scenes in his movies, and if he does they're small and simple. (Except for Kill Bill, which isn't out yet so you can't compare)
2) Is it just me, or does everyone suddenly have the same picture of jules with the gun?

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by QTfightclub » Wed Oct 08, 2003 2:14 am

I think RR is getting FAR better. OUATIM was really fuckin' good.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Holiday » Wed Oct 08, 2003 2:49 am

Not nearly as good as his first movie though.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by BadMotherFucker » Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:32 am

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Gib » Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:44 pm

I saw it two days ago...and I hate it  >:(.

An unrecoverable waste of money and great actors. The "Depp-Segment" was okay, but the rest was confuse, boring and totally pointless. Even the shoot-outs sucked. In every  C-Category movie, better ones can be found. Where the hell did he leave the 29,000,000 ? And this Cinematography ! Did he use handycams or what ? :o

And to deliver my main Question:

What´s going on with Robert Rodriguez ? I haven´t seen "Spy Kids" yet, but "OUATIM" happens to be one of the worst films I´ve ever seen. And I´ve seen a lot :(.
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by badassmovieman » Sun Oct 19, 2003 11:29 am

I finally posted awhile back my report from one of the premieres of the movie and what RR said:

http://badassmovieimages.com/reviews/rr-report.html

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by The_Swede » Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:53 pm

Anyone got more info about Robert's upcoming projects? A thriller? What more do you know about it?

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by OffDutyResvrDog » Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:42 am

No information on RR's next film, but I do have to say that I shelled out enough cash to see OUATIM three times in the theater, I enjoyed it that much.  But, like some of y'all have said, the ending really left alot to be desired after you'd seen the rest of the film, I just really didn't get along too well with El Mariachi bailing out the President and what not.  All though Depp's last scene was definately some good stuff, as well as pretty much any other scene with him in the film.  That blind gunfight at the gates of the compound was to me well worth paying to see the film.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by The_Swede » Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:16 pm

I love all of Rodriguez work - and yeah, even the spy kids movies. I can't wait for his next film, but he doesn't seem to eger to tell us about it. I wanna know!

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by QTfightclub » Wed Jan 21, 2004 9:49 pm

Did anyone else get the DVD? I dont get it, in theatres, the movie was in scope, and RR even talks about it in some of the featurettes, and the DVD is in 1.78:1, i know he just cropped the top and bottom to make the scope image, but why do it in theatres if not on DVD? Also, in the main titles, the part that actually says "Once Upon a Time in Mexico", which used to be in plain text, is now a yellow version of the logo?! What the fuck? Did anybody else notice anything different?

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by stuck in the middle » Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:42 am

 That blind gunfight at the gates of the compound was to me well worth paying to see the film.
word. i loved that scene. totally kick ass.

i was going to get the dvd today but they ran out of the el mariachi/desperado two pack so ill have to wait til tomorrow to go to the other best buy and get it.
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by The_Swede » Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:35 pm

The DVD is great. "10 minute cooking school" and "Inside troublemaker studios" was so fuckin' great. Great commentary track as usual - RR says he wrote "Agent Sands" for Clooney. Go get the DVD!

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by stuck in the middle » Sun Jan 25, 2004 4:56 am

he wrote it for clooney? i must have missed that. seriously if anyone else played that role OUATIM would have sucked.

and speaking of the commentary track what do you think about that spin off that RR was joking around about with Johnny Depp? i mean Johnny is interested and RR seemed like it too. i think that would be awesome like a prequel sort of. we get to find out what Sands was like before
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by ChickdelaLynch » Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:19 pm

I saw it yesterday and I must say it was good. I would've appreciated it more if I saw Desperado first.
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Sidewinder » Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:28 pm

I bought the DVD a couple days ago...I hadn't seen the movie prior to that but a bunch of buddies told me the movie kicked ass. I liked it a lot better than Desperado. Johnny Depp was by far the best part of that movie.
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Bullet » Fri Jan 30, 2004 9:52 pm

The whole film kicked fuckin ass. Depp, Defoe and Rourke owned this with their performances. The shootouts felt a bit "cut" like they probably intended it to be a bit more graphic and a bit less fast. But the action scenes were brillantly staged and chereographed, espeically when El Mariachi and Selma were chained together and they were swinging down the building and landed on the bus (El Mariachi anyone?) then there was that big-ass explosion. The plot seemed thick and a bit confusing, and the end didn't piece it all together. It was either a poor direction flaw of Rodriguez or it meant you have to piece it together yourself by watching it again.

This was kickass-ness at it's finest hour since Kill Bill this year.

7/10 Recommended  :)
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Part_Eggplant » Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:11 pm

The plot seemed thick and a bit confusing, and the end didn't piece it all together. It was either a poor direction flaw of Rodriguez or it meant you have to piece it together yourself by watching it again.
 
I agree 100% !!! I Just watched the DVD for the 1st time last night. Action was great, some cast, and the extras where top notch (10 minute Film school before the movie is a must).  BUT, the film itself wasn't as complete as  "Desperado".  There were too many charectars and groups. I stopped really trying to figure out what the fuck was going on (who wanted to kill who and why), and just enjoyed the action.  
Clooney would have brought more Badass and less comedy to Depp's role. I put this 1 - 4th for Rodriguez!

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by JoeBanana » Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:32 am

Movie was OK.  Loved Depp.  2nd movie this year in which he excells at playing a character in a mediocre flick.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by stuck in the middle » Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:59 am

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i dunno once just didnt feel that much like an El Mariachi movie to me and the action scenes in Desperado kicked so much more  ass then the ones in once. especially that one bar fight where el shoot cheech
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Sidewinder » Sat Jan 31, 2004 5:17 am

I haven't seen El Mariachi.
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Holiday » Sat Jan 31, 2004 8:32 pm

i dunno once just didnt feel that much like an El Mariachi movie to me and the action scenes in Desperado kicked so much more  ass then the ones in once. especially that one bar fight where el shoot cheech

To my memory, Cheech was shot by his own men...right?

I rank them as such:
El Mariachi-4 out of 5
Desperado-3.5 out of 5
Once Upon a Time in Mexico-3 out of 5
I haven't seen El Mariachi.
You should.
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Puck » Sat Jan 31, 2004 9:44 pm

Once Upon a Time in Mexico ass rapes Desperado, IMO.  Yeah, the bar shoot out was cooler than any one scene in Mexico, but after Buscemi dies, the movie goes right down the shitter.  Mexico never reached the peak that Desperado did, but it stayed fast and interesting, never hitting the troughs that were the supposed climax of Desperado.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by IL_Buono » Sat Jan 31, 2004 9:59 pm

Fuck all of that. Just go see El Mariachi. It is the best one.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Bullet » Sat Jan 31, 2004 10:31 pm

Once Upon a Time in Mexico ass rapes Desperado, IMO.  Yeah, the bar shoot out was cooler than any one scene in Mexico, but after Buscemi dies, the movie goes right down the shitter.  Mexico never reached the peak that Desperado did, but it stayed fast and interesting, never hitting the troughs that were the supposed climax of Desperado.
I think they're two different styles when it comes to action. Desperado was just in the style of the Hong Kong action movies with a touch of the western style. While OOATIM had more of a less stylish feel then Desperado. Robert basically tried to make OOATIM more like a western then an action film, and I think he succeeded there totally. I mean the shootouts were short but straight to the point in OOATIM. In Desperado the shootouts were a bit longer and more over-the-top. Take the blind standoff at the end of OOATIM with Sands and those two bodyguards, the mood, the feel, the music and the cinematography there made it felt like a western standoff of some sort while in Desperado it ends with another large shootout. In Desperado you see Selma and EL riding off into the sunset (I hated that ending) and in OOATIM you see where all the characters go, and how they all interact with each other for the last time, making peace and basically saying "until next time" to each other. And I also agree further that in Desperado the movie REALLY drags low direction-wise and acting wise after Busecmi gets killed. OOATIM is my favorite in the Mariachi series. Followed by Desperado and the original EL Mariachi.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by stuck in the middle » Sun Feb 01, 2004 4:06 am



To my memory, Cheech was shot by his own men...right?

i cant remember right now. i know el and another man were shooting at each other and cheech was hiding. but since you bring it up he may have been in crossfire
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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Bullet » Sun Feb 01, 2004 4:09 am

EL points the gun at Cheech. He hears the guy running up to him from behind him he moves and the guy shoots Cheech. Then EL kills that guy by breaking his neck.

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Re: Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Post by Dick_Richey » Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:23 am

I saw this in theaters, and rented the DVD last week.  I'm still not sure how I feel about it.  It's definitely a movie that's worth seeing, but I can't figure out whether I like this movie or Desperado better.  I'm leaning towards Desperado, personally.  Johnny Depp was amazing, but he always is.  I just felt like you could tell that this movie was written and shot very quickly.  I like a lot of the cinematography, but I think it could have been edited better.  The editing seemed like the most rushed part of the film.  

But it's still a pretty fucking good movie, and I'll purchase the DVD eventually.  As is the case with Mariachi and Desperado, it's worth buying just for the director's commentary, if you're a wannabe filmmaker.  I love Rodriguez' commentary, and it supported my theory that within five years (give or take a few years), nobody will even bother shooting on 16mm or 35mm.  It's just a huge waste of money.

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