why does vincent's gun go off?

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why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by $5 Shake » Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:01 pm

is there any evidence, of how it goes off. and shoots marvin.


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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by Vince Vega » Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:18 pm

Maybe it was an act of god.

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Post by Dillon » Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:51 pm

He is related to Vic...

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Post by rec » Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:44 am

It was an American gun...  ;D

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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by Angel » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:57 am

it is meant to be one of the PF mysteries, like what is in the briefcase and who the fuck is russell?
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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by Snake Eyes » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:02 am

Kids, and thats why you dont play with loaded guns with the safty off! :police:
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Post by Bleach » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:18 pm

rec wrote: It was an American gun...  ;D
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Post by Johny_Exhale » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:27 pm

Angel wrote: it is meant to be one of the PF mysteries, like what is in the briefcase and who the fuck is russell?
its not a mystery, it just accidently went off, it can happen

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Post by Angel » Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:11 am

by mystery i meant things that are not explained

and yeah i know guns can just go off, i am around them enough to know it
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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by Nathan_Gr » Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:57 pm

He just's say's it's an accident, this type of thing happpen all the time, one get's comfortable with the trigger and grabs it more hard, and then BLAM you shot someone in the face :o

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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by Angel » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:52 am

i know retard i can read, plus i just finished saying that i have been around guns enough to already know that.

but QT never bothered to explain it, so to me it is a mystery in that sense.
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Post by Snake Eyes » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:23 pm

Angel wrote: i know retard i can read, plus i just finished saying that i have been around guns enough to already know that.

but QT never bothered to explain it, so to me it is a mystery in that sense.
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Post by plunderbunnie » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:59 am

Thousand Eyes wrote: Ha ha ha ha :D
Agreed, that was harsh, but funny.  ;D
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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by Angel » Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:43 pm

everybody knows it was an accident but there are plenty of ways accidents can happen with guns, so hence the mystery
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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by Snake Eyes » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:23 am

wasnt vegas actual excuse that it was an accident, so that might as well be the official explanation, he seemed sincere..
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Post by plunderbunnie » Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:49 pm

Yea, i think people like to make more outta some stuff then their really is
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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by Seth_Gecko » Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:16 pm

Well Vince and Jules are professionals and even though vince is the type of guy that has a temper, he wouldnt kill someone that unprofessionally. So I think it really was an accident. Also Vince is the type of guy that speaks what he means, so if he really killed him on purpose, he just would have said so.

The "deeper" meaning behind it could be related to the story of jules being the shepard leading marvin through the valley of darkness and vince the tirranny of evil men who shoots the weak nonetheless...so the shepard failing after he and the tiranny just got saved by divine intervention...

doesnt jules actually say: we are in in the valley, vince! marcellus doesnt have any friends here...jules failed to explain the divine intervention to vince, and thus failing to save the weak (marvin)

could have something to do with the speech, but only maybe I think...

The main reason is the whole purpose of pulp: taking some standard cliche stories, mix them and give them a personal twist where it almost gets to cliche and by doing so keep the story flowing and the audiance at the edge of their seats. Just when you think you know whats going to happen, QT hits you with something out of the blue and violence is a good tool to do that.
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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by Angel » Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:53 am

there is no doubt that it was an accident, my post just fucking finished saying that it was an accident goddammit. I just said that there a plenty of ways that accidents can happen, it never went and said, "ok, what happened was there was a bump on the seat and it knocked Vincent's finger onto the trigger" or such ok, it was an accident, but there are hundreds of ways that accidents can happen and hence that is a small mystery in itself.
Thousand Eyes wrote: wasnt vegas actual excuse that it was an accident, so that might as well be the official explanation, he seemed sincere..
you basically just repeated what i said in the post above yours
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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by Snake Eyes » Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:41 am

Angel wrote: there is no doubt that it was an accident, my post just fucking finished saying that it was an accident goddammit. I just said that there a plenty of ways that accidents can happen, it never went and said, "ok, what happened was there was a bump on the seat and it knocked Vincent's finger onto the trigger" or such ok, it was an accident, but there are hundreds of ways that accidents can happen and hence that is a small mystery in itself.

you basically just repeated what i said in the post above yours
WTF i was just highlighting what Vincent said what his excuse was - ie it was an accident what i said aside form the conclusion is nothing like what you said >:(
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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by plunderbunnie » Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:44 am

Ok everybody...deep breathes.  Its just a forum...Everyone should be nice and joyous and not get mad because someone says somethingt that sounds similar to what they said. 

Play nice god dammit!!
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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by Snake Eyes » Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:46 am

plunderbunnie wrote: Ok everybody...deep breathes.  Its just a forum...Everyone should be nice and joyous and not get mad because someone says somethingt that sounds similar to what they said. 

Play nice god dammit!!
sorry... :(
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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by plunderbunnie » Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:53 am

Thousand Eyes wrote: sorry... :(
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Post by Snake Charmer » Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:31 pm

I never undrestood why Vincent still has his gun drawn out. I mean, Joules already knew Marvin, he even introduced him to Vincent. So there's no reason in particular for Vince to have his gun out if Marvin can be trusted.

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Post by plunderbunnie » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:22 pm

Snake Charmer wrote: I never undrestood why Vincent still has his gun drawn out. I mean, Joules already knew Marvin, he even introduced him to Vincent. So there's no reason in particular for Vince to have his gun out if Marvin can be trusted.
Hes probably just used to guns.  they arent just for protection, they're just normal.
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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by Seth_Gecko » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:45 pm

or still just impressed by what just happened, he was still rambling about it when he shot marvin.

Its hard to say really because I dont see QT as someone who puts messages in his movie.

So its just a cool thing to do, plus it helps the style of PF. Cliche stories fucked up by some very not cliche shit.

again, the greatness in PF is the characters, actors, but what I value most is:

just when you think you know, you really dont. And QT just bitch slaps you with it in a very cool way: violence!  8)
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Post by Jot » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:00 am

Yeah, I dont really believe in their being any particular 'deeper message' in PF  so im going to say that the gun going off was merely a convieneint plot twist....that said if you were going to go with a deep subliminal message:
tarantino_is_god wrote: The "deeper" meaning behind it could be related to the story of jules being the shepard leading marvin through the valley of darkness and vince the tirranny of evil men who shoots the weak nonetheless...so the shepard failing after he and the tiranny just got saved by divine intervention...

doesnt jules actually say: we are in in the valley, vince! marcellus doesnt have any friends here...jules failed to explain the divine intervention to vince, and thus failing to save the weak (marvin)
ha ha....nicework, im impressed!

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Re: why does vincent's gun go off?

Post by vadid » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:55 pm

well orginaly in the first script vinceant was supposed to shoot marvin once in the throat by accident and once again in the head to silence him but QT changed it becuase he thought it has funner and more shocking with 1 shot. But it never really is expland why the gun went off i think maybe were just supposed to accept it and thats it
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