Tarantino and The Who

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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by Lode » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:34 pm

But to call this psychadelic era in the sixties punk is in my opinions wrong too.
Why is that wrong?
The question is what you're thinking of to be punk. And I think you answer it with your next statement:
All I'm trying to say is that the Sex Pistols weren't the first. Ever heard "My Generation" by The Who? Well I think that was the first mainstream Punk Song('65). Think about it, it's about being young, ignoring the old and living your own life.
But exactly the was it to be Mod, or almost the same. Ever seen the movie Quadrophenia? And to call Mods being Punks is not right. Cause one of the biggest facts next to the way of life was the music they heard. And this was Mod and Soul and a little Ska. And as far as I know was the Who a Mod Band till the left the Subculture.

So the point isn't that I don't agree to you, but that I believe that The Who was never a punk band ;)
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Post by j_c » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:32 pm

I think that Punk is more of an attitude rather than a dress sense or whatever.

Lets agree to disagree :) ;)

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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by Lode » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:38 pm

Hey, i mean, every subculture isn't itself because of what they're wearin' in it. The punks have an attitude, the mods have on, the skinheads, the psychos....etc. So I wouldn't say we disagree. But maybe it isn the right thread :)
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Post by j_c » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:40 pm

True, but a little debatin' never hurt anyone. ;)

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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by Lode » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:43 pm

True too. And when I think about it again it came to my mind that this is the right thread for this little discussion ;)
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Post by j_c » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:46 pm

lol suppose so.

So... The Who? Favourite Songs? I love the bassline in "The Real Me". What do we all think "Baba O'Riley" is about? My best theory is that the guy is going to war. "Out here in the fields, I fight for my meals" etc

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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by Lode » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:48 pm

Yeah. Could be. By the way is Baba O'Riley one of my favourite Who songs. Of course I do love My generation and If the kids are alright. But I also prefer Boris the Spider. Funny thing
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Post by roulette67 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:24 am

j_c wrote: Hmm. Calm down there mate. Ever heard of the Ramones? Their first single came out in '75. Even then the origins of punk date back to the '60's. Velvet Underground and then the whole Post New-Wave "British Invasion period" after '75. Even before that there was the Psycadelic era of '65-'68 which was about getting drunk and partying with random psyc moments. There was also Television in '77 aswell, you don't get more Punk than Tom Verlaine. The Stooges first album came out in '69, as did MC-5's. So yeah, the Sex Pistols weren't the first punk band. Far From it. ;)


I had a picture of the sexpistols on my desktop,and I've been into their music lately. I wasn't thinking and they are all that came to mind. I HAD A BRAIN FART.!!!

I must and wholeheartedly aree with this above. I cower away in shame. To think I have loads of the banana album of Velvet underground and my computer is full of the Ramones. RIP man. Gabba gabba hey.
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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by roulette67 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:33 am

I must disagree that the Who did ANYTHING punk. They didn't have the attitude, defiance, distinctive need to be Anything that was even concidered socially acceptable. At least that's the punk I remember.
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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by Lode » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:52 am

roulette67 wrote: I must disagree that the Who did ANYTHING punk. They didn't have the attitude, defiance, distinctive need to be Anything that was even concidered socially acceptable. At least that's the punk I remember.
For all this is it to be punk. But all subcultures don't accept the authority and so on. They wanted to confine from the society. And this weren't only the punks. And it is a fact that they were a later subculture than the mods and the skinheads.
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Post by savage_henry » Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:57 am

punk starts with richard hell, he built the stage the ramones played on, he provided the attitude in performance (hence getting kicked out of television, or at least getting told off by verlaine a lot) and he wore safety pins on his jeans coz he couldnt afford new ones! Mcclaren saw him and went back home to stock up his 'Sex' clothes shop with that style and formed the pistols. He even asked the sex pistols to write their own version of hell's 'Blank Generation', which became 'pretty vacant.'

but yeah one time pete townshend was gonna beat up johnny rotten for taking the piss out of sixties bands but rotten told him how much he loved The Who. coz the who were like the street kids, shooting speed, well dressed and violent, compared to the stones who were more 'rock' - or stars - if you know what i mean? and the clash's 'clash city rockers' fucks up the riff from 'i cant explain'. so the who were a big influence on punk, as were all the garage bands like MC5, stooges etc. but punk as a sound / movement really starts with hell then goes through to the ramones who then went and played a show in england which really got the uk punk scene goin (though the clash and pistols had already formed by then).


who gives a shit if tarantino doesnt like the who? i dont really care much for them either, though it could be the idea of 50/60something rockers still going at it live with their shirts off etc that he hates.

i was more surprised that he once said that he couldnt live without bob dylan's 'blood on the tracks'!

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Post by savage_henry » Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:09 am

MiaMsPink wrote: Um...haha..this is laughable. The Who were one of the pioneers of punk music. This is fact. There were others, of course, but The Who (although not exactly punk MUSIC, most definitely held that punk ATTITUDE) -- not only with their songs rebelling against authority and older generations, but also because of the smashing up of instruments on stage. They directly influenced bands like The Clash, The Ramones, and The Sex Pistols. Pete Townshend is also often times referred to as the "godfather of punk."

JUST so you know.  ;)
No offence, but did you get that info off wikipedia or something? coz you said you didnt even know who The Who were til like two months ago which i find astonishing! i cant think of ANY punk bands who actually destroyed their instruments on stage - they couldnt afford to. johnny ramone used to look after his guitar religiously (even if he was so broke he had to carry it around in a bag).

its only coz of grunge ('when punk finally broke in america' as some people put it) that people associate smashing guitars with punk

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Post by festus_taint » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:43 am

Over the last few years I've grown to love the Who, more even than a previous favorite Led Zeppelin.  I think the Who can easily be classified as a main influence of punk.  Attitude was the main thing, I mean Keith Moon was a crazed alcoholic drug addict who was known to tear shit up everywhere he went.  The most famous story about him is driving a rolls royce into a pool.  The who, in the sixties played music for the street rats and hoodlums.  It was rebellious, energetic, and fast.  It was later with thier more popular stuff that they influenced many other types of music to come.  Other artists who I would correlate with punk from the 60's and early seventies,  Lou Reed and the Velvet Underground, Iggy Pop, David bowie, The Doors, fuck even the Beach Boys(that's who the Ramones tried to model themselves after).

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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by me » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:46 pm

Does anyone else hate the who? I mean when I think of all the great old rock in roll band the who isnt even close. And for "The Who" for creating punk well that just bullshit no one knows who exactly created punk, it could have been Ramones,Iggy Pop,or Lou Reed does it really matter punk is great and beats any shit they play today. And also Pete Townshend is a pervert!

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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by Bad Max » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:51 pm

My Generation is one of the greatest songs evah!  >:(
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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by me » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:52 pm

Its okay but I rather listen to I wanna be sedated

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Post by Bad Max » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:55 pm

The Who's Kicks Ramones ass even though i love them both... Led Zeppelin sucks btw
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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by Black Mamba! » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:29 pm

Bad Max wrote: The Who's Kicks Ramones ass even though i love them both... Led Zeppelin sucks btw
Then you obviously haven't listend to Led Zeppelin play  ;) and are only making an assumption...unless you have only heard a few songs. They are one of the greatest rock bands of all time. Even my radio station dedicates a whole entire hour to the band each day. How could you say that ?  :o :o :o
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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by me » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:33 pm

Yeah EVERYONE GET THE LED OUT!

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Post by Toothpick_Vic_Vega » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:41 pm

I never liked Led Zeppelin. I dont like Robert Plants whiny bitch voice. The musicianship is great, but its not my style.

I dont particularly like The Who either, or Pink Floyd. That kind of music is stuff I grew up on, but its like Ive moved past it and think its almost cheesy in a way. I never listen to it anymore.

I do like 60s garage rock/psychadelic rock alot, and punk and most new wave. I also hate bad hair metal and most 80s cheesy hard rock.

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Post by me » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:53 pm

Oh god bad metal hair bands are so bad think god grunge(Nirvana) came and killed them all :)

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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by Jelle » Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:12 pm

Pink Floyd is the g
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I dont particularly like The Who either, or Pink Floyd.
Pink Floyd is the best band ever!
We don't know his motivation, nor his love-affair. All we know is that he's a hired-assasin ready to kick some butt.

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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by me » Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:17 pm

Im sure IFY is gonna give you the business Pete Hahaha!

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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by cyber-lili » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:22 pm

I love The Who, but not particularly Pink Floyd too :-X
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Post by Toothpick_Vic_Vega » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:43 pm

Pink Floyd are SHIT! I mean are THE Shit! Just kiddin' they're good but I dont listen to them really.

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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by me » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:48 pm

Why do we even have a topic on the who they didnt even matter...we should have topic called, " Tarantino and Pink Floyd"

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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by Ify » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:16 pm

I've yet to meet someone who outright doesn't like Pink Floyd. I don't mean to sound pretentious or even condescending, but a lot of people who claim to dislike Floyd probably don't get the music. They probably don't get the lyrics. Try listening to "Echoes" from the Meddle album by yourself in a room with your eyes closed. You will be taken on an epic journey. No band can match that.

Saying Pink Floyd are cheesy is rather confusing. What's so cheesy about them?

They really worked on their weaknesses to bring something truly brilliant. Their albums are very different from each other, yet they still managed to produce music of the highest quality. Their songs have meaning, they manage to move you, they are in depth. The strong structures are genius.

Shit, I mean David Gilmour, who has reached the age of 60 can still outshine any guitarist out there. In fact, he has only but improved.

It was cool for Scorsese to put Comfortably Numb on the Soundtrack to The Departed. He has always had really good musical tastes.
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Post by Kilgore Trout » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:21 pm

I think that Tommy and The Wall equally sucked.  As far as music goes, yeah...The Who and Pink Floyd were great bands, but I ain't gonna build them a fucking shrine in my basement.  Ify, if you like music so damn much...why don't you go to a store and buy a Fender Stratocaster and a Fender Twin Reverb Amp and learn to play like Gilmour....it will be a lot more interesting than hearing you talk about him all of the fucking time.  Once you learn to play the guitar you will see that his shit isn't really that spectacular. 

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Post by Toothpick_Vic_Vega » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:22 pm

I really think Pink Floy are good, I just dont really listen to their music much. I grew up listening to it, so I know it from front to back. I love The Wall music and movie too. I just have different tastes these days.

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Re: Tarantino and The Who

Post by Ify » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:24 pm

PopeyePete wrote: I really think Pink Floy are good, I just dont really listen to their music much. I grew up listening to it, so I know it from front to back. I love The Wall music and movie too. I just have different tastes these days.
Yeah, I hear ya. My musical tastes are so varied, and have varied over time. It's just that at the moment I'm at a time when nothing could be sweeter to listen to than The Pink Floyd!! My dad has always liked them since the late 60's/early 70's.
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