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Re: The Doors

Post by *G* » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:20 am

Thanks. I'll tell you soon the ones I will give a listen to.

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Re: The Doors

Post by *G* » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:54 pm

Also here is all of the punk bands/singers that I like before I start your list:

The Stooges
MC5
Misfits
Lou Reed (But haven't listen to the Velvet Underground stuff yet)
Patti Smith (Haven't heard alot but she can sing)


I think I got them all that I can think of.

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Re: The Doors

Post by Ordell Rodriguez » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:41 pm

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Ordell Rodriguez wrote:What are the odds of this? I just spent the last week becoming a Doors convert. My new fave band of all time.
You messing around with me? Cool.
No joke, they've been the soundtrack to my life for the past 2 weeks now. Really digging on L.A. Woman.

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Re: The Doors

Post by *G* » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:25 am

Ordell Rodriguez wrote:
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Ordell Rodriguez wrote:What are the odds of this? I just spent the last week becoming a Doors convert. My new fave band of all time.
You messing around with me? Cool.
No joke, they've been the soundtrack to my life for the past 2 weeks now. Really digging on L.A. Woman.
L.A. Woman and Soft Parade is my 2 fav Doors albums. L.A. Woman is straight blues and Soft Parade is classical, jazz, blues, and southern rock.

I have a tattoo of the Doors logo and been wanting another for the Doors.

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Re: The Doors

Post by *G* » Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:16 pm

Well I just ordered the Velvet Underground & Nico album with the Blast Of Silence Criterion dvd since I been wanting that for a long while.

Having listen to some of the album online before ordering, my fav song would have to be "Venus in Furs" so far.

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Re: The Doors

Post by cherrydarling » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:26 am

So much love for that song. And The Velvet Underground.

I love the whole art-rock genre. Bowie, Roxy Music, Pink Floyd. Such an awesome time for music. So often I think I was born in the wrong era. The money I would pay to see any of these groups live.

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Re: The Doors

Post by F.W. » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:54 pm

Suicide was a good art rock band too and of course, Talking Heads. Brian Eno's solo work is also really, really great. its still going on with bands like T.V. on the Radio and such.

what's your favorite Bowie album?

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Re: The Doors

Post by Lt. BioBasterd » Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:44 pm

Listen to:

- The Kingsmen

- The Yardbirds

- The Rivieras

- Jerry Lee Lewis & The Playboys

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Re: The Doors

Post by Ordell Rodriguez » Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:36 am

Ordell Rodriguez wrote:What are the odds of this? I just spent the last week becoming a Doors convert. My new fave band of all time.
You messing around with me? Cool.[/quote]

L.A. Woman and Soft Parade is my 2 fav Doors albums. L.A. Woman is straight blues and Soft Parade is classical, jazz, blues, and southern rock.

I have a tattoo of the Doors logo and been wanting another for the Doors.[/quote]

L.A. Woman's my Fave. But that's pretty bad-ass, I love a cool tattoo but I'm petrified of hating whatever I get years down the road.

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Re: The Doors

Post by cyber-lili » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:55 pm

F.W. wrote:recommendations for G and i'm doing this with bands and their best albums:
gang of four:

Entertainment!

Lou Reed:

Rock N Roll Animal is and always will be one of the most important live albums ever. you like glam and bolan? this is right up your alley. also Prakash John is an amazing bass player.

Rancid:

they suck now, yes but And Out Come the Wolves is just an amazing album musically, shut out the lyrics if you want but tell me Olympia WA doesn't get your head bobbing.
Rancid was such a good band. And they def are influenced by The Clash, same as GreenDay (don't yell and bring up their new stuff, their original stuff are awesome justlike Rancid were). Their album Indestructible in 2003 wasn't that bad. Did you like the first album of Transplant ?

Lou Reed and The Velvet are one of the best band. Though it's really easy to listen to, you never take much risks to ask someone to give it a shot. It has nothing to do like giving a shot for a punk band, like Rancid for example.

Gang of Four is awesome too. I remember I used to listen to them a lot as a teen and when I first discover Bloc Party, even before they released their first album, only wit the first EP, I knew they were influenced by Gang of Four even if they kinda avoid to talk about it. The Marshalls Are Dead is so Gang of Four.

Talking about punk, it's always fun when people repeat that Iggy Pop is the Gofather of punk or whatever and the same Iggy Pop lovers hate punk. David Bowie then was also the Godfather of punk. That pseudo fight against the two of them is stupid cause David Bowie is more than just glam. Some of his tracks like Hang On on Yourself (def sounds like the later Ramones), Stars, Suffragette City, Queen Bitch, Rebel Rebel, The Jean Genie are not at all what we should consider glam rock.

Talking about brit punk from the seventies now, check out The Buzzcocks too then. Ever Fallen in Love is one of the best track from that period (except all The Clash tracks, which is one of my fav bands ever), Sixteen Again is cool too.

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Re: The Doors

Post by F.W. » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:41 pm

yeah, the buzzcocks are great. Queen Bitch and Suffragette City are almost like Velvet Underground tunes. but i disagree that all there stuff is accessible. a lot of people who say they like the VU end up hating the White Light/White Heat album and never listen to Sister Ray in all its glorious entirety. but yeah, Bowie is too musically diverse to label as anything.

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Re: The Doors

Post by *G* » Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:51 pm

F.W. wrote:yeah, the buzzcocks are great. Queen Bitch and Suffragette City are almost like Velvet Underground tunes. but i disagree that all there stuff is accessible. a lot of people who say they like the VU end up hating the White Light/White Heat album and never listen to Sister Ray in all its glorious entirety. but yeah, Bowie is too musically diverse to label as anything.
I am glad you said Bowie, because I always thought Lou Reed's Transformer was Glam Rock. Now I was wondering if people thought they were the same thing. If David Bowie and Lou Reed's solo stuff is both Glam and Punk Rock, is T.Rex with Marc Bolan both? I was curious because you all are saying Reed is punk, when his solo stuff has always been known as Glam Rock and even had help from Bowie, one of the "Kings (or Queens) of Glam".

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Re: The Doors

Post by F.W. » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:38 pm

no, Marc Bolan isn't punk...what the fuck?

Transformer is glam rock but its not like that's the only record he's made...

The Velvet Underground isn't necessarily "punk", which you don't seem to understand is an umbrella term with many, many, many "subgenres" beneath it. The VU just influenced punk rock by playing very loosely, accepting fuckups as pieces of the puzzle, improvising, recording in one take, singing about disillusionment and personal insecurities/mistakes/redemption. Loaded stands as more of a classic/smooth rock record than a punk one but the spirit of the VU (experimenting with genre mixing, sound and recording techniques) is what helped pave a certain path for punk rock. but punk also has roots in folk rock of the 30s and 40s and R&B of the 60s/50s.

David Bowie can't be lumped into this "King of Glam Rock" thing because he only made on glam rock record (Ziggy Stardust and arguably Hunky Dory is one too). Marc Bolan played strictly what is now referred to as glam rock and never really exercised outside of that and with good reason (he was best at glamming out). Bowie on the other hand was constantly a man in motion, speeding from one genre to the next, he's done disco, hard rock, electronic/ambient, glam, folk, dance punk, punk, and a bunch of mixes of all different kinds of things. considering he gave up his Ziggy Stardust identity after a few short years of doing it, I don't think he should be given any kind of glam label, or any label for that matter.

Lou Reed's solo work is equally diverse. the last record he did was made specifically to accompany meditation with ambient sounds and such. he did Metal Machine Music which was a bunch of noise but was definitely an influence for drone rock. he's done bubblegum rock, 50s pop, funk, punk and so much more. but he's always been ahead of the game, self-aware, personal and emotionally open, which makes him stand out.

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Re: The Doors

Post by cyber-lili » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:45 pm

You pretty much resumed everything about Bowie and Lou Reed. To me, none of them, nor the Velvet are punk music. Even The Clash, their first two albums are def punk but then London Calling is wilder than just punk and the rest of their discography even more, just you said it, they were influenced a lot by reggae, even hip hip and street culture when it started in NYC in the eighties. I love that such huge artists challenge any genre definitions, but most of people just label them into one of them and that's it.

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Re: The Doors

Post by F.W. » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:53 pm

not even genres deserve labels...

punk is so much more than people make it out to be and it's very close to my heart. i wish people were as wild about it now as they were when it started. its a very expressive form of music and so much more diverse than just loudness and singing about shitting.

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Post by cyber-lili » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:31 am

That's for sure, that's why I said people don't really know what they're talking about usually when they mention punk. It's even more than just music, it's a philosophy of life, and it's more than just the Mohawk hair stuff. To me Mohawk even usually looks like cheap or fake punks.

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Re: The Doors

Post by F.W. » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:07 am

yeah, the only thing remotely stereotypically punk about me (and i consider myself a punk) is my Doc Martens. but i wear just what i can find (from the gap, american eagle) my hair is straight cut and who gives a fuck? its not how you look or necessarily act; its what you believe, how you feel.

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Post by cyber-lili » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:03 pm

I used to wear Doc Martens a lot when I was younger, then I changed to Converse and Puma but they all got popular, which annoyed me. Doc Martens has never been that popular anymore, here at least. or they're more grown up shoes, and more male shoes.

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Re: The Doors

Post by F.W. » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:30 pm

i alternate between my ratty old low-top taylors and my martens. they're more typically male, there's not a lot of girls wearing them over here either.

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Re: The Doors

Post by Scarface » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:11 pm

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Mr.Pink wrote:Yea best American band of the 60s. I actually take back what I previously said about them being the best band of the 60s as we all know it was The Beatles.
Beatles=overrated.
If you think that, you know next to nothing about music. Excuse me for sounding harsh, but that's the truth.

The Doors are great too.

The Stones? Great for their time, but they should have quit 25 years ago. Besides, they would have been nothing if it wasn't for the Beatles.

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Re: The Doors

Post by cyber-lili » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:15 pm

I'm really not such a fan of The Beatles but this track should make anyone change his mind about The Beatles :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiFYOn1AFms
Probably one of the best pop song ever written.

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Re: The Doors

Post by *G* » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:37 pm

Scarface wrote:
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Mr.Pink wrote:Yea best American band of the 60s. I actually take back what I previously said about them being the best band of the 60s as we all know it was The Beatles.
Beatles=overrated.
If you think that, you know next to nothing about music. Excuse me for sounding harsh, but that's the truth.

The Doors are great too.

The Stones? Great for their time, but they should have quit 25 years ago. Besides, they would have been nothing if it wasn't for the Beatles.
So your saying I know next to nothing about music if I say the Beatles (who are the most known rock band of all time) is overrated? Coming from someone who probably thinks Scarface is the best movie ever and Pacino is the best actor ever?

Let's say it like this. Are the Beatles actually that better than everyone else to have that much attention on them? Are they really that better than everyone else? The answer is NO. So that means they are overrated then. I don't care for the Beatles, but I didn't say they suck. I just said they are not on a planet above everyone else.

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Re: The Doors

Post by Scarface » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:09 pm

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Scarface wrote:
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So your saying I know next to nothing about music if I say the Beatles (who are the most known rock band of all time) is overrated? Coming from someone who probably thinks Scarface is the best movie ever and Pacino is the best actor ever?

Let's say it like this. Are the Beatles actually that better than everyone else to have that much attention on them? Are they really that better than everyone else? The answer is NO. So that means they are overrated then. I don't care for the Beatles, but I didn't say they suck. I just said they are not on a planet above everyone else.
No band in history has been as influential to the music scene of the last 50 years as The Beatles have been. That's not an opinion. It's a fact. The Beatles revolutionized pop, rock, metal, blues, psychadelia; even acid house with "Tomorrow Never Knows". And all of this they managed to do in 8 years. Most of the major rock bands of the 70s which you probably love always cite their Beatles as one of their major influences. Hell, the Stones kick-started their career by recording a Beatles single - otherwise, they would have been as famous as the garage band you have playing next door. You just cannot label "overrated" the most influential band of all time.

And please, do not jump to conclusions just by looking at my avatar. Thanks. ;)

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Re: The Doors

Post by F.W. » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:47 pm

Scarface has it half right here. he's right that most of modern pop music can be traced back to The Beatles but there were still the ones who influenced The Beatles themselves as well the ones who came after them, who took the groundwork of what The Beatles left in their wake and built something entirely original and unique on top of it. The Beach Boys for example, you wouldn't have certain Beatles records if Paul McCartney hadn't heard what Brian Wilson was doing in California so as far as influential bands go, you don't have The Beatles without The Beach Boys and vice versa.

its just as ignorant to believe that The Beatles are the beginning and end of musical history as it is to say they're overrated...

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Re: The Doors

Post by purplehayes » Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:42 am

No band in history has been as influential to the music scene of the last 50 years as The Beatles have been. That's not an opinion. It's a fact. The Beatles revolutionized pop, rock, metal, blues, psychadelia; even acid house with "Tomorrow Never Knows". And all of this they managed to do in 8 years. Most of the major rock bands of the 70s which you probably love always cite their Beatles as one of their major influences. Hell, the Stones kick-started their career by recording a Beatles single - otherwise, they would have been as famous as the garage band you have playing next door. You just cannot label "overrated" the most influential band of all time
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Very correct way to put it. Simply Put, the Beatles are timeless. The music will never sound outdated and it can be loved by all ages. Yes they are the most influential band ever. Anyone that doubts that needs to answer this. What band before the Beatles wrote and recorded music that sounded like what the Beatles created? Seriously I can't think of one group.

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Re: The Doors

Post by purplehayes » Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:55 am

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F.W. wrote:did you just seriously say Jonas Brothers hype to the Beatles? It's the other way around, man. Jesus.
I know it's the other way around, but since we were talking about the Beatles, I had to put it in a way where we could understand (since we are living in this day and age.) that the hype the Jonas is getting was that of when the Beatles first came out. Though I don't see a Lennon coming out of that crap.
Are you out of your mind. I don't hear anyone saying that they are influenced by the Jonas brothers unless they are a brainwashed 8 year old that watches Hannah montana and owns the whole collection of kids bop cd's.

The Beatles were more popular than Jesus. That was some serious shit back then.
The beatles popularity would be closer to what the internet is today.

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Re: The Doors

Post by F.W. » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:21 pm

well, all the people that influenced the beatles recorded and wrote music that sounded like the beatles.

chuck berry, for example. gimme summa dat rocknroll music...

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Re: The Doors

Post by cyber-lili » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:38 pm

Chuck Berry is 10 times better than The Beatles if not 100 times. ;D

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Re: The Doors

Post by Scarface » Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:34 pm

F.W. wrote:well, all the people that influenced the beatles recorded and wrote music that sounded like the beatles.

chuck berry, for example. gimme summa dat rocknroll music...
Sure, because I always think of Chuck Berry when I listen to "Eleanor Rigby" or "A Day In The Life". ::) What you said is true for the first years they performed as a group when they played straight rock and roll. They then evolved to different types of music after that. Of course, they couldn't have done so without first building a solid fan base by attracting the masses to the music that was most popular at the time.They had to start somewhere.

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Re: The Doors

Post by morning glory » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:48 am

First of, The Beatles aren't overrated or whatsoever. How can you say that, that's ridiculous! Secondly, The Doors were great and yes, they were the second best band of the 60s after The Beatles. All in my humble opinion of course. ;)

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