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Post by Pete » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:35 pm

PLEASE USE THIS TOPIC FOR ALL THE LATEST BASTERDS RELATED MOVIE NEWS (Both Front Page & Forum Member Contributions)
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NOTE: THIS ARTICLE CONTAINS SOME SPOILERS, BUT NOTHING PLOT-RELATED (ONLY SOME SCENE-DESCRIPTIONS INVOLVING VIOLENCE)

"Pitt And Tarantino Face Backlash For War Film


Brad Pitt and Quentin Tarantino are facing a possible backlash for their forthcoming World War II film Inglorious Bastards, which depicts violent attacks on German soldiers.

The movie - Tarantino's remake of a 1978 Italian film - reportedly stars Pitt as a U.S. Army lieutenant who leads a group of Jewish-Americans dropped into Nazi-occupied Europe to seek revenge.

A leaked quote from the script, obtained by the New York Post, reveals Pitt's character barking at soldiers: "Every man under my command owes me 100 Nazi scalps, and y'all will git (get) me 100 Nazi scalps, taken from the heads of 100 dead Nazis, or die trying."

And critics believe the film's portrayal of German characters, in addition to the violent events, will spark outrage amongst German citizens.

According to a report by The Times of London: "It is not just the scalping, or the carving of swastikas in foreheads, or the shooting of a German officer's testicles, or the slow strangling scene - all shown with Tarantino's customary love of detail - that is likely to upset the German nation and its critics.

"It is the whole idea of turning the Second World War into a comic-book adventure in which not a single German character has redeeming value."

In a recent interview, Tarantino said: "I don't want it to feel like a period film. This is a modern, in-your-face movie." He has not commented on reports of the leaked script.  (18 August 2008 9:05 AM, PDT Source: IMDb/QTA Member Dantes Inferno posted originally)

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Don't Jump the Gun
http://www.tarantino.info/2008/08/19/ex ... m-critics/

Michael Fassbender replacing Simon Pegg
http://www.tarantino.info/2008/08/20/fa ... cing-pegg/

B.J. Novak an Inglorious Bastard
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38069

Diane Kruger is Bridget von Hammersmark
http://www.tarantino.info/2008/08/29/di ... -bastards/

Christoph Waltz as Hans Landa
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38125

Til Schweiger, Christoph Waltz, Daniel Bruhl, Eli Roth, Mike Myers, Michael Fassbender, B.J. Novak, Samm Levine and Paul Rust
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=23153

Robert Richardson - Cinematographer
http://www.tarantino.info/2008/09/03/ro ... -bastards/

Paul Rust
http://www.variety.com/article/VR111799 ... id=13&cs=1

IB - A Summary So Far
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 19227.html
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Post by Pete » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:18 pm

To comment on that IMDB blurb. When did people suddenly become so sensitive to how Nazis are portrayed in movies? I dont get that at all.

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Post by Kinick » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:21 pm

I think a title better suited for what you're trying to do would be something like: "POST YOUR BREAKING BASTARDS NEWS HERE!"

But I think it would become too cramped for people honestly.

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Post by GloriousBastard » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:30 pm

PutneySwope wrote: When did people suddenly become so sensitive to how Nazis are portrayed in movies? I dont get that at all.
What they mean is that every german in the film is depicted as absolutely evil (which isn't even the case).

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Post by Dantes Inferno » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:33 pm

PutneySwope wrote: To comment on that IMDB blurb. When did people suddenly become so sensitive to how Nazis are portrayed in movies? I dont get that at all.
I think your misreading it. The article is basically saying that all the Germans in the film are evil, which puts the country in a bad light. I don't really agree with it, but that's what it says.

On the other hand, Quentin is no stranger to controversy and something like this was bound to happen sooner or later. I doubt the film is going to become another Fight Club, where the negative remarks actually put a serious damage to the film's reputation and box office.

I'd ask of anyone wishing to discuss this that they don't mention things in the script (keep that in the threads tagged with "spoilers"). This might seem a bit weird considering the critique is pointed towards the script, and I guess I can't make anyone do anything. Just saying, don't spoil it for the ones who haven't read it yet.

EDIT: GloriousBastard beat me to it.

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Post by Pete » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:34 pm

GloriousBastard wrote: What they mean is that every german in the film is depicted as absolutely evil (which isn't even the case).
Yeah thats what I figured. QTs characters are just people. Even his villains arent black and white. They all have shades of gray.

People should actually see the film before they start with this kind of stuff I think.
Dantes Inferno wrote: I think your misreading it. The article is basically saying that all the Germans in the film are evil, which puts the country in a bad light. I don't really agree with it, but that's what it says..
I havent read the script so, Im not sure. But knowing QTs previous work, Im pretty much sure he didnt write every German as purely evil.
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Post by Sebastian » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:04 pm

plus it's just a movie. people should fucking shut up ;-)

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Post by Pete » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:13 pm

I agree. they need to shut their damn pieholes!

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Post by Dantes Inferno » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:54 pm

Remember: there's no such thing as bad PR. ;)

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Post by Stiglitz » Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:25 pm

Well pretty much every German in the film is a bastard except for one but

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He dies quite quickly.






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So i can understand how it might be controversial in Germany but they should just understand that this is Tarantino and he doesn't mean to offend anybody, he just wants to make a kick-ass entertaining movie. 

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Post by Col. Crazy Kenneth » Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:58 pm

Uh-oh. Quentin is probably gonna hit a nerve here. Most Germans and Austrians older than 30 are not ready to see a WW2 comic book movie. They are assholes that way.  ;D

I already hate the fact that many people are not going to understand what Q is doing with IB, or even if they understand it, they are going to hate the concept, just because they think a movie about WW2 HAS to be totally serious, like that Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's List shit.

I wish we were more into pop culture and B-culture like the Americans are.
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Post by Pete » Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:17 pm

What about Dirty Dozen and Kellys Heroes? Those things didnt happen. They were basically the same type of film as IB. A post modern take on WII. Why is QT getting so much flack? Its freakin ridiculous, its 2008!!! WWII was the 1940s!!

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Post by Col. Crazy Kenneth » Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:25 pm

Yes but surely those two are much tamer than IB is going to be. I mean I didn't read the script but from what I have read in here and on AICN, etc. IB is going to be wild and over the top.

WWII was in 1940s, but it's still somewhat of a deeply rooted black spot in the collective conciousness of Germans and Austrians today, most of them born after 1945. It's too bad some people haven't gotten completely over it yet.

Quentin should of course do his thing, the way the wants. That's most important.
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Post by Pete » Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:32 pm

Theres nothing to be offended about. WWII is over and if Nazis are shown as evil, why would German people care? Its the truth. QTs not making that up.

I think IB will be less about reality and more about an action-adventure type theme. Why would people be offended by that?

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Post by Col. Crazy Kenneth » Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:15 am

PutneySwope wrote: Theres nothing to be offended about. WWII is over and if Nazis are shown as evil, why would German people care? Its the truth. QTs not making that up.

I think IB will be less about reality and more about an action-adventure type theme. Why would people be offended by that?
of course they are not gonna be offended by Nazis shown as evil, can't you tell what I'm trying to say? What I mean is that if IB should become an extremely violent pop adventure set in WW2, lotsa people won't dig it and be offended because WW2 and stuff related to it is still a fairly emotional issue to them. we'll see. For now we don't even have the movie yet.
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Post by Pete » Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:20 am

I def think people should actually see the film first before they jump to conclusions.

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Post by Col. Crazy Kenneth » Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:21 am

PutneySwope wrote: I def think people should actually see the film first before they jump to conclusions.
of course.
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Post by Arv_M » Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:25 am

First off, who cares about what the fuck happens to a Nazi? 

Second off, there were tons of nazi exploitation flicks that came out.  I read articles that said "there isn't a single German with a redeeming quality".

Hugo Stiglitz?  Bridget Von Hammersmark?  And a few others.

They talk about the scalping of nazi officers; does anyone remember what was happening to the jews at the time?  And they say "the shooting of a nazi officer's testicles" will also offend many.

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Personally, I think people are being too sensitive and should lighten up.  If Germany wants to separate themselves from the Nazis so badly, then they should enjoy the film and act like it's happening to someone that's not...them.

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Post by Lt. BioBasterd » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:43 am

I'm surprised at the hate that is always thrown at QT for being who he is. And last I heard the Nazis tortured and burned human beings alive - there are accounts of doctors performing illicit surgical operations on Jews, they actually beheaded them and did some weird shit.
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Post by Mr. Jettah » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:18 pm

lol this is great, i mean its perfect PR. its like the whole kill bill violence thing, honestly thats the only reason why i watched it xD thats how i became a QT fan :P so ye, i guess this great promotion will just get more people to watch it, u know like "hey dude omg did u see the movie all the germans are raving about, its fucked up " blalba xD

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Post by Pete » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:48 pm

"Wow Ive never seen a WWII movie where the Nazis were the bad guys!!"

NOTE TO MODS: Can you guys sticky this topic because if you dont people will keep making separate news topics. Lets keep our shit together!! :)
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Post by Sebastian » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:24 pm

wrote something about these stories in the news recently

http://www.tarantino.info/2008/08/19/ex ... m-critics/

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Post by Pete » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:27 pm

That was a great response. I think you hit it exactly right.

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Post by Stiglitz » Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:46 am

Well this is the latest from Variety (i'm sure it will be up on the frontpage soon :))

MICHAEL FASSBENDER (who played Stelios in "300") is in 'final negotiations' to join the cast. No word on who he would play though (could be Landa, could be Frederick, could be Hellstrom)

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This is what i wanted to hear, some no-names who want to prove themselves with a QT film. 

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Post by Mr Q » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:13 am

...and according to wikipedia he (Fassbender) has produced, directed and starred in the stage version of Quentin Tarantino's Reservoir Dogs, along with his production company.

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Post by Yasmin » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:31 am

Sex on legs.. yes please, Quentin.

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Post by Scarface » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:46 am

Stiglitz wrote: Well this is the latest from Variety (i'm sure it will be up on the frontpage soon :))

MICHAEL FASSBENDER (who played Stelios in "300") is in 'final negotiations' to join the cast. No word on who he would play though (could be Landa, could be Frederick, could be Hellstrom)

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This is what i wanted to hear, some no-names who want to prove themselves with a QT film. 
YES!

Finally a cool looking guy who will definitely look the part to kick some major ass!

Loved him in 300. He's the guy who says "Then we'll fight in the shade" if I'm not mistaken. Badass.
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Post by Sylvia » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:53 am

Stiglitz wrote: Well this is the latest from Variety (i'm sure it will be up on the frontpage soon :))

MICHAEL FASSBENDER (who played Stelios in "300") is in 'final negotiations' to join the cast. No word on who he would play though (could be Landa, could be Frederick, could be Hellstrom)

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This is what i wanted to hear, some no-names who want to prove themselves with a QT film. 
I like Simon Pegg, but I have to admit it...this guy is way cooler than him! 8)

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Post by Pete » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:01 am

So Fassbender is playing Lt Hicox? Dont know his work, but cool anyways.

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