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Post by RatQuiRit » Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:42 pm

Yes it must be the same scene. In the script, after Landa gets away, the camera goes down and we see that she's peed on herself, I didn't remember he wrote that it was pouring down on her feet though, but yeah...that would definitely qualify as the sickest foot fetish scene he wrote, haha
And yeah, I loved everything that happened just after Landa's entrance. The sound, the look and expression on Mélanie Laurent's face, that was good and sufficient to knew she's stroke with intense fear. No need for that fake burst into tears moment at the end of the discussion.
Also, this scene is pretty amazing when I think of it. Cause it's very awkward and the audience feels uncomfortable for Sosanna, but we still get to find refuge in laughter because of Sosanna's little mimics and quick looks mostly provoked by Goebbels, and also when Landa orders a glass of milk, adn Sosanna whispers a very discreet and cute "oh", awkwardly funny. And the "quick fuck" scene is one of the most impromptu shit QT ever put in one of his movie, I loved it, but the audience had this weird laughter, haha. I loved it in the script, although he changed the line for...a pig squeal apparently :o
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Post by Ify » Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:49 pm

RatQuiRit wrote:Yes it must be the same scene. In the script, after Landa gets away, the camera goes down and we see that she's peed on herself, I didn't remember he wrote that it was pouring down on her feet though, but yeah...that would definitely qualify as the sickest foot fetish scene he wrote, haha
And yeah, I loved everything that happened just after Landa's entrance. The sound, the look and expression on Mélanie Laurent's face, that was good and sufficient to knew she's stroke with intense fear. No need for that fake burst into tears moment at the end of the discussion.
Also, this scene is pretty amazing when I think of it. Cause it's very awkward and the audience feels uncomfortable for Sosanna, but we still get to find refuge in laughter because of Sosanna's little mimics and quick looks mostly provoked by Goebbels, and also when Landa orders a glass of milk, adn Sosanna whispers a very discreet and cute "oh", awkwardly funny. And the "quick fuck" scene is one of the most impromptu shit QT ever put in one of his movie, I loved it, but the audience had this weird laughter, haha. I loved it in the script, although he changed the line for...a pig squeal apparently :o
Hahaha, yeah, that squeal was fucking hilarious. It was such a random moment, but it works in showing Goebbels' relationship with her. It's unlike other QT flashbacks in that the scene isn't really relevant to what's happening, I don't think. It was just a random thing. ;D

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Post by Ify » Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:27 pm

Lt. BioBasterd wrote:Oh this thread is intended for the US release since most Europeans saw it already - so don't come here and spew your spoilers, alright. Not until a healthy amount of people have seen it! In America not France!
There is no reason to have seperate review topics based on when you watched it and in which country. We'll just have one topic. Post in it after you have seen it.

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Post by ThaDuke » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:04 pm

Haven't seen it yet, but I cannot wait!

Only 4 more hours! ;D ;D ;D

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Post by Tornmuscle » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:41 pm

I just saw it and was AMAZED. I'm not the kind of guy who would go see the same movie in a theatre twice, but I can't wait till it's released on DVD so I can watch it again!

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Post by zeppelincheetah » Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:47 am

It was really really good, proves that he's still got it after the slightly disappointing Death Proof. I have to watch it again to let it sink in. Some scenes seemed to drag on a little bit too much (felt like the bear jew was beating his bat against the tunnel wall for about 2 minutes too long before he appeared (wtf) - there are other moments like that too). I think the violence was a bit too much. Did we really need to see the bear jew beat that nazi to death? I think it should've been filmed like the ear cutting scene in Reservoir Dogs, where you know what happened but you don't see it. This movie is by far the most violent Tarantino film.

Other than that the movie was great. Three scenes stick out in my mind; the scene at the bar in the basement (very tense!); the scene where the theater burns to the ground while the bear jew and omar slaughter the nazis with their bullets and the scene where Aldo is speaking pathetic italian in front of the jew hunter.

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Post by RatQuiRit » Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:01 am

It's not QT's most violent picture. Maybe it's the one that has the more realistic violence, but don't you remember the Kill Bill Vol.1 Slaughter? I mean, Sophie gets her arm cut off and yells while crawling on her own blood.
The Bear Jew scene is filmed from a very wide angle, I mean you aren't even forced to watch the nazi getting beaten up and you can watch Aldo or the other basterds in the background instead.
I think you said that because WWII actually happened, so that makes the violence more real as it is meant to be. Lots of people will think it's too violent because they still haven't made peace with the fact it's a fiction. Simple as that.

That's what I said to my girlfriend when she told me the same thing. I told her it was nowhere near as violent as Saving Private Ryan for example, and even if it was, those violence scenes didn't happen so it shouldn't get to us.

I think the violence should be seen as a fun thing as it's just nazis, and as QT made Pitt say it: they're not human. We should regard violence in IB the exact same way we'd watch this girl getting her eye pulled into that wooden stick in Zombi2 for example. It's a pretty fucking disgusting scene, but it's also actually fun to watch.
For me, getting back 50 years too late at the nazis is the point of the movie. If we laugh at Goebbels' and Hitler's portrayals, why shouldn't we laugh at this caricature of the proud blond nazi schutze when he gets what he deserves?



It's just the way I see things. Still, I have to admit the scalping and swastika scarification were pretty disgusting.
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Post by zeppelincheetah » Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:19 am

RatQuiRit wrote:It's not QT's most violent picture. Maybe it's the one that has the more realistic violence, but don't you remember the Kill Bill Vol.1 Slaughter? I mean, Sophie gets her arm cut off and yells while crawling on her own blood.
The Bear Jew scene is filmed from a very wide angle, I mean you aren't even forced to watch the nazi getting beaten up and you can watch Aldo or the other basterds in the background instead.
I think you said that because WWII actually happened, so that makes the violence more real as it is meant to be. Lots of people will think it's too violent because they still haven't made peace with the fact it's a fiction. Simple as that.

That's what I said to my girlfriend when she told me the same thing. I told her it was nowhere near as violent as Saving Private Ryan for example, and even if it was, those violence scenes didn't happen so it shouldn't get to us.

I think the violence should be seen as a fun thing as it's just nazis, and as QT made Pitt say it: they're not human. We should regard violence in IB the exact same way we'd watch this girl getting her eye pulled into that wooden stick in Zombi2 for example. It's a pretty fucking disgusting scene, but it's also actually fun to watch.
For me, getting back 50 years too late at the nazis is the point of the movie. If we laugh at Goebbels' and Hitler's portrayals, why shouldn't we laugh at this caricature of the proud blond nazi schutze when he gets what he deserves?



It's just the way I see things. Still, I have to admit the scalping and swastika scarification were pretty disgusting.
yeah to me Kill Bill's violence was so over the top it was like a cartoon. It was funny. But you're right - it's that the violence in this movie is shown realistically. That's what made me squirm.

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Post by TarantinosNYC » Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:22 am

New York Premiere - Zeigfeld Theater, last show time - 1/2 full house, oh well.

I want to to see it again too, and soon. I haven't felt that way about a movie in a long time. It had flaws, like trying too hard sometimes to make sure the audience made the proper connections.

But the drama was really well done. I thought it was a crazy movie at first, through the first half. Then very moving. I'm not sure what it was. SPOILER
I liked the way the german star of the movie within the movie felt bad about all the killing he did, until the girl says no to him, then it's something he drops on her very hard.

Lots of Wow moments.

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Post by ThaDuke » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:03 am

Inglourious Basterds was awesome! -Just awesome! Tarantino did it again!!

I was not expect this movie to be anything that it is. It was far better than I thought it would be. There were times when I would get totally lost in the soundtrack, I would forget what was actually happening on screen. Did I hear some Ennio Morricone? ..I think I did!!

The scenes were stretched out a bit, but they totally sucked you into the movie at the same time. There were some people in the theatre getting bored with the scenes, but my eyes and ears never left the theatre. There were also times when I would catch myself being sucked into the movie so much, I thought I actually had a connection with the characters and was a part of the movie. That proves great screen writing on Quentin's part. This isn't the first Tarantino movie with long scenes of dialogue, either. I'm not surprised; this is expected with a Quentin Tarantino movie. That's why I'm such a big fan of his work. He doesn't rush scenes out the door. We get to flirt with the characters a bit before they die! :D

I fell in love with the bar scene; from start to finish. For some reason a few parts of the scene even took me back to Four Rooms' "The Man from Hollywood". And does this man know how to create a good shootout or what? These Mexican standoffs just keep getting better and better.

Of course Brad Pitt was hilarious. You could say that he even stole the show. His Tennessee accent is priceless. I was in tears when the Basterds were trying to speak Italian. Probably my favorite part in the movie. As far as actors go, Eli Roth kicked ass. He looked like he was having so much fun playing that part. Christoph Waltz get my choice for best actor, however. He Plays such a great bad guy. I never expected the movie to end the way it did. I love how Donowitz got his revenge on Hitler at the end. Priceless.

So if I had to say something negative about the movie, it did get old having to read all of the dialogue. It felt like I was reading a book on tape after awhile. It kind of took me out of the experience and keeping me from actually watching the movie. But this movie was so wonderfully shot, that it when I was actually able to WATCH the movie, it made up for all the reading. There were even some shots that reminded me of Hitchcock's style. Simply beautiful.

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1.Pulp Fiction
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Post by robertdiggs36 » Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:50 pm

I loved the movie so much. Not much more I can say that has not been said. Having said that, I would like to add a few comments. I dig Omar Doom's character (Omar) in the movie. He reminds of the Italian character in Inglorious Bastards in so far as every time he comes on-screen he is hilarious and steals the show. His character also reminds me of Brad Pitt's character in True Romance, not that Omar is a long haired stoner hippie in the movie, but when he is in a scene-hilarity ensues.

I also liked the couple of Scarface homages. One, right before Omar (damn am I gay or do I just have a man crush, I am hoping for the latter) and the Bear Jew burst in there blastin', during a scene in Stolz der Nation, a man falls from a building into a fountain a la Tony Montana. Second, when Omar (fuck, it might not be the latter) makes a grizzly countenance (with blood on his face resembling a scar) while he is turning the cinema into a bullet festival is pure Scarface. "Say hello to my little friend."

Also, this movie evokes similarities to David Lynch films. I love his interpretations of what is real. In Inglourious Basterds every character, with the exception to Aldo Raine, is not what they seem to be (like the owl in Twin Peaks). Maybe that is why Aldo survives, but that is a whole other story. Back to the story at hand, in the chapter titled "Revenge of the Giant Face," the Jew Hunter tries to re-write the history books by scheming his way out of his war crimes. It is very plausible that this has happened before in what we call "real life." Is history really "real?" This brought my attention to actual history books and they are usually written from the winner's perspective. Is that real? Inglorious Basterds had such a David Lynch feel, which is really not a bad thing.

Sticking with the Lynch theme, in the chapter titled "Operation Kino" during the briefing the room has a similar feel to the Hollywood room in Mulholland Drive and in the wacky rooms in red in Twin Peaks. And in Inglourious Basterds, Winston Churchill is the weird guy in the corner of the room.


Just a few thoughts on the great film that is Inglourious Basterds.

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Post by beatrix_kiddo » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:33 pm

I finally saw it today, was excited alll week, work couldn't have gone quick enough.

What did I think? I loved every single moment. Words cannot express how much this movie rocked my world. I KNEW Tarantino wouldnt disappoint (me)his loyal fans, and he didn't...very, very uneasy to watch, specially the opening scene....but man, I can't stop grinning. I LOVED he used music from KB. I LOVE that Sam L Jackson was narrating.

Definitely different from his other movies, but in a good way. I'd see it again and again.

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Post by dandadub » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:28 pm

Tornmuscle wrote:I just saw it and was AMAZED. I'm not the kind of guy who would go see the same movie in a theatre twice, but I can't wait till it's released on DVD so I can watch it again!
Ha yeah i know what you mean apart from seeing Death Proof alone then Grindhouse in its entirety, Inglourious Basterds was the first film ive seen in the cinema twice. Should i see it a third time or wait for the dvd release.... who knows! haha

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Post by Lt. BioBasterd » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:28 pm

I saw it 3 times yesterday and once today. So that's four viewings for me. I really liked the way the characters come together until the very end. The way he uses that steady cam shot in the cinema as in Kill Bill. It's like all of his movies have prepared him for this one. The film felt somewhat patriotic - does anyone agree? Maybe it was jsut Aldo Raine's character who just glows with patriotism, and it just spews at you and you just can't help but to feel proud and walk out of the theatre with a huge smile! I felt that way when he does that to Landa - the swastika mark.It's great how a set of people could change the course of history - Hans Landa prides himself in that moment when he sees the dynamite after killing Bridget. That moment when he comes upon this dynamite - that is the moment when he realizes what he can do. The fate of humanity rests in one decision, and he takes advantage of it by requesting his surrender and many other embellishments that he will get when he becomes an American citizen. It seems to me that Landa was searching for a chance to escape Nazi Germany to avoid persecution - he even says that. It's a master's work this movie.

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Post by TarantinosNYC » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:57 pm

SPOILER

Question...what about when Landa orders a glass of milk for Shoshanna/Emmanuelle?
Did he start his escape plan then?

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Post by Lt. BioBasterd » Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:31 am

I don't think so. It was three years since he had seen her. He definitely knew. Col Landa has the ability to force his targets into submission by using sheer, hard facts. He also uses things to make them remember, like the shoe with Bridget, and the milk with Shosanna - to remind her of the dairy farm I suspect. I think Landa sees himself as God. If he wanted to he could have busted her right then and there. The expression at the end of the conversation and the way he puts out his cigarette. Good question - it could go either way.

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Post by Big Fok » Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:56 am

This movie was fucking awesome. I have never anticipated a movie so much and am blown away that it actually lived up to my expectations and more...much more.

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Post by Darth Bowie » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:42 am

Best film of 2009 and one of Tarantino's best (!).

Did anyone catch "The Fox" from Pulp Fiction in the film?

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Post by Col. Crazy Kenneth » Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:48 am

I'm glad to hear that Basterds did good BO on the first day in the US

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Post by robertdiggs36 » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:54 am

I loved the movie so much. Not much more I can say that has not been said. Having said that, I would like to add a few comments. I dig Omar Doom's character (Omar) in the movie. He reminds of the Italian character in Inglorious Bastards in so far as every time he comes on-screen he is hilarious and steals the show. His character also reminds me of Brad Pitt's character in True Romance, not that Omar is a long haired stoner hippie in the movie, but when he is in a scene-hilarity ensues.

I also liked the couple of Scarface homages. One, right before Omar (damn am I gay or do I just have a man crush, I am hoping for the latter) and the Bear Jew burst in there blastin', during a scene in Stolz der Nation, a man falls from a building into a fountain a la Tony Montana. Second, when Omar (fuck, it might not be the latter) makes a grizzly countenance (with blood on his face resembling a scar) while he is turning the cinema into a bullet festival is pure Scarface. "Say hello to my little friend."

Also, this movie evokes similarities to David Lynch films. I love his interpretations of what is real. In Inglourious Basterds every character, with the exception to Aldo Raine, is not what they seem to be (like the owl in Twin Peaks). Maybe that is why Aldo survives, but that is a whole other story. Back to the story at hand, in the chapter titled "Revenge of the Giant Face," the Jew Hunter tries to re-write the history books by scheming his way out of his war crimes. It is very plausible that this has happened before in what we call "real life." Is history really "real?" This brought my attention to actual history books and they are usually written from the winner's perspective. Is that real? Inglorious Basterds had such a David Lynch feel, which is really not a bad thing.

Sticking with the Lynch theme, in the chapter titled "Operation Kino" during the briefing the room has a similar feel to the Hollywood room in Mulholland Drive and in the wacky rooms in red in Twin Peaks. And in Inglourious Basterds, Winston Churchill is the weird guy in the corner of the room.


Just a few thoughts on the great film that is Inglourious Basterds.

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Post by Mr.Pink » Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:00 am

I thought Inglourious Basterds sucked. Read my review in the Track Your Films topic.

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Post by dandadub » Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:39 am

Just back from the forums on IMDb about Inglourious Basterds. Shocked to see how many people are complaining about the level of talking in this movie. I really dont think that there was any more dialogue in this movie compared to other Tarantino movies. Also there is allot of complaints about the level of subtitles again. Seriously i dont see the trouble with subtitles, are people that brain dead?!

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Post by bigbeard60 » Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:23 pm

Ah man, i really fall in love with the movie. Sometimes i wished that qt had more explicit gore scenes in it. In Germany the movie got a certification of 16. Thats weird at all. The scalping is really nice to watch. Glad that he had KNB FX with him on the trip. All in All, its one hell of a ride.

Does anyone noticed the similarity between PF and ib, in the scene when the british fella lit up a cigarette, with the same expression Vincent Vega does? Great. ;D

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Post by TarantinosNYC » Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:43 pm

Did anyone catch "The Fox" from Pulp Fiction in the film?
Do you mean the Kangaroo thing that the watch hung on? When was it in IB?

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Post by Grindhouse » Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:14 pm

Absolutly loved Inglourious Basterds !!! I was all excited when i went to the cinema last friday to see it, it was like a special event, lol. I'll go see it in cinema again for sure. (Can't wait for a 1080p blu ray release btw :)

Actors did a great job, Brad Pitt, Mélanie Laurent, Christoph Waltz, Diane Kruger, etc.
I thought we would seen the basterds more often, a few more scenes would have been cool, but its ok.

Btw, did i miss something or we didnt see that scene from the trailer where one of the basterds is running shooting a machine gun ?
The version presented at Canne was 2:40 hours right ? VS 2:33 hours for the us/canadian release. I hope we will get to see the 2.40 hours version when its out in Blu ray !!!
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Post by jeje1250 » Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:28 pm

Box office mojo now reports the movie reached 37M ! =D

I've seen it twice already in France and it's awesome, I fall in love with the characters, the tone, the music, the dialogues ! Everything is great, the cinema were full packed both of the times which is really surprising for my cinema ! I heard some people said it was boring, some said it was awesome, others didn't understand the whole thing ! I'm going to see it again tonight, this is how Tarantino's movies works on me, everytime I watch them, I discover a new thing that makes me enjoy it even more !

I can understand people who complains it's too talky but they don't seem to remember Pulp fiction or reservoir dogs !

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Post by Ify » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:56 pm

Grindhouse wrote:Absolutly loved Inglourious Basterds !!! I was all excited when i went to the cinema last friday to see it, it was like a special event, lol. I'll go see it in cinema again for sure. (Can't wait for a 1080p blu ray release btw :)

Actors did a great job, Brad Pitt, Mélanie Laurent, Christoph Waltz, Diane Kruger, etc.
I thought we would seen the basterds more often, a few more scenes would have been cool, but its ok.

Btw, did i miss something or we didnt see that scene from the trailer where one of the basterds is running shooting a machine gun ?
The version presented at Canne was 2:40 hours right ? VS 2:33 hours for the us/canadian release. I hope we will get to see the 2.40 hours version when its out in Blu ray !!!
There were many scenes from the trailer that were missing in the final film.

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Post by RatQuiRit » Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:02 pm

I've seen it for the 3rd time with my parents and brother (who's 23 years old and usually loves sci fi or action movies (like xXx or Fast and Furious...yeah...), and they all loved it. My bro told me he hadn't seen such a kick ass movie in ages, my mother told me she loved seeing Hitler getting disfigured, I was sitting just behind her and she almost rose her fist when it happened haha! I'm so glad they liked it I had to tell you guys :p

And well...3 times is ok, the parts I like seemed even better than the other times, I've never got so much chills watching a movie than today. I almost passed out in the end of the 1st chapter when Landa calls his soldiers into the house...3rd time I was watching it for christ's sake!! I mean I exactly knew what was going to happen and all...I don't know, that loud music, all the build up, it's just so perfect. I'd really rate that scene, with the dialogue that preceeds it, the very best QT ever made. I'm so loving it every time. What will it be next time? Am I gonna shit my pants?
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Post by Stiglitz » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:52 pm

Saw it. Loved it.

Still need to see it again to give my full review/proper rating.

It's not an out right masterpiece, if only because the structure was a little jumbled and didn't flow too well. I felt it the most at the beginning of the Operation Kino chapter when they cut from Myers/Fassbender to the basement and Hicox was there. Was a little jarring.

I went with 5 people, and half of us loved it completely, my girlfriend said it was the best Tarantino film she ever saw, my sister said it was better than Kill Bill. My three friends though had a problem with some scenes that went on for too long apparently. Especially they said the La Louisanne scene where the game went on for too long. I didn't agree because i loved that scene and the tension that built, plus the acting from August Diehl was excellent. Schweiger's reactions stole the show and Fassbender was just as good. The "pay-off" was a little too short though i found, everyone was dead in a matter of seconds.

Anyway, it's totally jumbled thoughts here and there because i definitely need to see it again. Waltz stole the show of course, I loved Pitt's performance and Roth & Doom did not disappoint. I was not as impressed by the use of Bowie's song as others have been, it actually took me out of the whole film for a little bit and didn't seem to fit even though it sounded really nice to hear. Best use of music was the first chapter, which is my favorite chapter.

All right, i'll be back with further thoughts.

8/10 so far. I don't even know where to place it with his other films yet...

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Real Dialogue

Post by shawnbordoff » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:04 pm

After seeing Basterds last night I remembered a great war film by Jean Renoir from 1937 called La Grande Illusion. That was set in WWI and was about French and British prisoners of war. The dialogue was so much more realistic because the characters spoke in the language they were supposed to speak in. Sometimes it was English, mostly in French and sometimes in German. It just bugs me when Hollywood films have people put on accents to indicate they're speaking a different language. Half the time it's just a British Accent which is really strange.
With the box office success of Inglorious Basterds, I hope more films follow the lead and make the language a little more realistic. We also are exposed to some wonderful European actors that are not as well known to North American audiences. It's such a pleasure to experience riveting performances from people like Melanie Laurent, Christoph Waltz, Diane Kruger and Daniel Bruhl.

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